Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Secular Group Files Lawsuit in New Jersey Against 'Under God' in Pledge
Christian Post ^ | 04/22/2014 | BY MICHAEL GRYBOSKI

Posted on 04/22/2014 9:07:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A Washington, D.C.-based secular organization has filed a lawsuit against the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance.

The American Humanist Association announced Monday that a New Jersey school district will be the latest entity sued over the two words.

David Niose, attorney for the American Humanist Association's Appignani Humanist Legal Center, said in a statement that he believes the pledge's words are religiously coercive.

"Public schools should not engage in an exercise that tells students that patriotism is tied to a belief in God," said Niose.

"Such a daily exercise portrays atheist and humanist children as second-class citizens, and certainly contributes to anti-atheist prejudices."

The lawsuit is being brought on behalf of an anonymous Monmouth County family that claims the words under God are discriminatory against non-theists.

Filed in the Superior Court of New Jersey Saturday, the lawsuit contends that with its under God phrase the pledge "unlawfully discriminates against plaintiffs on the basis of religion."

"Plaintiffs seek a declaratory judgment that said statute and the daily classroom exercise required by it violate the equal protection guarantees of the New Jersey Constitution, along with injunctive relief and nominal damages," continued the suit.

Placed in the pledge in 1954, the under God phrase has been the subject of many atheist lawsuits.

In the past, atheist activist Michael Newdow of California has, on multiple occasions, sued to remove the two words from the pledge, ultimately failing in his efforts.

The New Jersey lawsuit filed last week is not the only legal challenge the American Humanist Association is levelling against the pledge.

Last fall, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts' highest court heard oral arguments in the case Doe v. Acton-Boxborough.

Brought before the Supreme Judicial Court, the case similarly argued that the under God phrase violates the equal protection of atheists under the law.

The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, a Washington, D.C.-based law firm that specializes in religious freedom cases, has defended the pledge from various lawsuits.

Regarding the Massachusetts case, Becket Fund Legal Counsel Diana Verm stated that AHA and its clients "have every right not to say the pledge if they don't want to, but they don't have the right to silence everyone else."

"Removing the words under God would deny the source of our rights and show hostility toward religion," said Verm.

"The pledge is appropriate in public schools because it is a statement of political philosophy, not theology."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: atheism; newjersey; nj; pledge

1 posted on 04/22/2014 9:07:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

If they don’t want a relationship with their Creator, they have consigned themselves to a second class life.

But we didn’t put them in that box. They chose that for themselves.


2 posted on 04/22/2014 9:10:26 AM PDT by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

No one is taking away your right to be whatever the hell you are. Even you admit that so the suit is without merit.


3 posted on 04/22/2014 9:10:46 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

In 1930’s Germany they made the Jews wear a Star of David on their clothes. Are we so very far from being required to wear a Christian Cross on ours? It would certainly make it easier for the Muslims and the Government (but I repeat myself) to cull us out for transport to the “Work Camps”.


4 posted on 04/22/2014 9:11:18 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Sadly, they have a point. We’re no longer “one nation, under God.” Instead, the US is one of the main focal points of evil in the world. And it’s because of people like them.


5 posted on 04/22/2014 9:16:37 AM PDT by afsnco
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Atheists, and liberals, still don’t understand what “freedom or religion” means. They think, or want to interpret it as meaning “freedom from religion”.

Atheists do have freedom from religion, since they can ignore everything the see and hear that has anything to do with religion.

Religion is not being imposed on them, since they can continue being Godless. Atheists will be confronted with some sort of religion, whether in the form of text or speech or facial or bodily expressions, and that will never be able to be eradicated from the face of the planet. Atheists will have to learn to be tolerant and respectful of other people’s decisions, just like religious people are tolerant and respectful of the right of atheists to be “free of religion”.


6 posted on 04/22/2014 9:20:00 AM PDT by adorno (Y)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Will this same group sue to get the prayer rugs removed from every government building in the world?


7 posted on 04/22/2014 9:21:07 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: adorno

1st sentence should read:

Atheists, and liberals, still don’t understand what “freedom OF religion” means.


8 posted on 04/22/2014 9:21:51 AM PDT by adorno (Y)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Hypocrite sodomitic rulers of our consciousness.


9 posted on 04/22/2014 9:22:11 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DannyTN

“But we didn’t put them in that box. They chose that for themselves.”

Yep, and they want to choose it for us also and are trying to use the court systems to do it. Scary ain’t it?


10 posted on 04/22/2014 9:29:40 AM PDT by V_TWIN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Anytime you want to p.o. an athiest just pull out a U.S. coin and point out “In God We Trust” is minted on it......... Drives ‘em nuts. lol


11 posted on 04/22/2014 9:31:41 AM PDT by V_TWIN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: V_TWIN

“Anonymous”? What happened to the right to face your accuser?


12 posted on 04/22/2014 9:34:19 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

The Constitution guarantees that we’re not subject to the tyranny or whims of a minority. They’re not upset that secular humanism is taught as the religion of government schools. They worship the state and the things of man.

It just happens to be their pet that’s being peeved.


13 posted on 04/22/2014 9:43:09 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Because government schools are in such great financial shape that wasting time and money to prevent such a horrific harm to young minds is worth it.

They’re goofs, dangerous, dangerous goofs.


14 posted on 04/22/2014 9:44:33 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Public schools should not engage in an exercise that tells students that patriotism is tied to a belief in God,” said Niose

Really?
When men take up arms to defend freedom and America they do not say “Boy am I glad I don’t believe in God as I go to give my life in defense of others”
Never heard anyone say that when I served........


15 posted on 04/22/2014 9:45:34 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Here is an idea.
Leave us alone.
Leave America alone.
Leave our children alone.
You do not want to believe in anything that is okay, no one is forcing you. That is until the muslims take over. Then all bets are off!


16 posted on 04/22/2014 9:49:00 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Long experience shows that if decent people continue to give into the demands of bullies like these, the bullying won't just continue ... it will increase in its ferociousness.

Although there is always a price to pay to stand up to a group of bullies (including homosexual bullies, negro and other "minority" bullies, abortion enthusiast bullies as well as these athiest bullies), the effort to do so doesn't get easier after decent people give in to their demands. It's long-past time to fight ... and fight hard!

17 posted on 04/22/2014 9:53:26 AM PDT by glennaro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sacajaweau

We need loser pays laws to end these frivolous lawsuits. It’s the courtroom judges that are letting these move forward.


18 posted on 04/22/2014 9:58:59 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SECURE AMERICA

When the liberals see the heads of their homo buddies roll past their feet they will realize they had absolutely nothing to complain about before sharia law was invoked...


19 posted on 04/22/2014 10:25:50 AM PDT by jsanders2001
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

The country already went down this road, with some dweeb from California.


20 posted on 04/22/2014 10:33:35 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I just can’t imagine anyone, no matter how stupid and evil, sitting about thinking, “You know what the problem in this country is? Too much God.”


21 posted on 04/22/2014 10:48:33 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Seems like they arguing over nothing.

Seems pointless ....


22 posted on 04/22/2014 10:54:41 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

This has been tried and failed.

OMITTING THE words would be discriminatory.

Judicial selection should not be in the hands of the bar OR the politicians.


23 posted on 04/22/2014 11:09:36 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Don Corleone

I wear a cross lapel pin on every coat/jacket.


24 posted on 04/22/2014 11:51:17 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Sacajaweau

There would be a lot fewer atheists if they all had a chance to use a foxhole during a fire fight or even have a job that involves powerful machinery, high speed, etc. or any of the dozens of other occupations that makes one happy to get home in one piece every night.. I guess I miss the draft And I wonder if it’s possible to poll these snivelers to find out whether any of them have a service record?


25 posted on 04/22/2014 1:00:33 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: massgopguy

Anonymous? They must have a weirdass rule in that state? My state requires the name of the plaintiff at the top of the first page of the complaint. It eliminates a lot of cheap krap.


26 posted on 04/22/2014 1:05:16 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
“Such a daily exercise portrays atheist and humanist children as second-class citizens, and certainly contributes to anti-atheist prejudices.”

**************************************************
Really? Then the reverse must also be true. Forbidding Christians and all other citizens from using the words “under God” portrays them as second class citizens and contributes to anti-Christian prejudices.

The majority of the people are getting sick and tired of being coerced and forced to live according to the way that a minority of people dictate.

27 posted on 04/22/2014 1:15:20 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Bastards picked the right state.


28 posted on 04/22/2014 1:54:02 PM PDT by ZULU (STOP JEB BUSH!!!! NO MORE BUSHES!! US OUT OF THE UN AND UN OUT OF US!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
So if they prevail does that mean that I'll be arrested if I say “under God” during the Pledge?
29 posted on 04/22/2014 4:38:02 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Atheists are idiots.


30 posted on 04/22/2014 4:40:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

IT'S FREEDOM OF RELIGION,NOT FROM RELIGION.


31 posted on 04/22/2014 4:40:23 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I don’t like violence and don’t think it is the answer, but sometimes, just sometimes, I enjoy thinking about beating the snot out of these idiots.


32 posted on 04/23/2014 4:50:05 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson