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NAACP Head Praises Rand Paul
theweek.com ^ | 4 22 14 | Matt K. Lewis

Posted on 04/22/2014 9:25:59 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

Over at NPR, Liz Holloran's latest piece on Sen. Rand Paul's efforts to loosen the Democratic Party's lock on black votes included some positive feedback from a prominent African-American leader:

"He's a different voice in the arena that we don't traditionally hear," says Lorraine Miller, acting head of the NAACP, who expects to invite Paul to speak at the organization's July national conference in Las Vegas.

"He's an engaging guy — that's why we want to talk to him," Miller says. Miller is not the only black leader who has been intrigued by Paul, whose father, former Texas Rep. Ron Paul, had three unsuccessful presidential runs and amassed a fervent Libertarian following.

Miller's predecessor, Benjamin Jealous, has previously hailed Paul's position on reforming drug and sentencing laws, which disproportionately affect African-American individuals and families

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Interesting.
1 posted on 04/22/2014 9:25:59 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Paul plays for the wrong team


2 posted on 04/22/2014 9:29:37 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
hailed Paul's position on reforming drug and sentencing laws, which disproportionately affect African-American individuals and families

Let's see if they hail his position if he starts talking about cutting off the EBT cards.

3 posted on 04/22/2014 9:30:40 AM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The NAACP will praise Rand Paul right up to the point he wins the GOP nomination; then it all changes.


4 posted on 04/22/2014 9:30:56 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Paul got a pretty high percentage of the black vote in Kentucky in 2010. Something like 32%.

It might be too small a sample size though. Kentucky doesn’t have a large black population like much of the South, I think it’s about 92% white.


5 posted on 04/22/2014 9:36:23 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Reverse agit-prop. Not that I support Rand Paul anyway, but the Colored People endorsing him will not work.

Conservatives will look at this and go “So What?”


6 posted on 04/22/2014 9:36:48 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Rand Paul fights for felon voting rights
7 posted on 04/22/2014 9:40:08 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: BarnacleCenturion
drug and sentencing laws, which disproportionately affect African-American individuals and families

Uh, there is a reason for this fact, and (for the most part) it's NOT because LEO are picking on the poor black folk.

Quit committing the crimes people, DUH. Or, get smart and stick with white collar crime; a lot easier to get away with it. Even better, get elected anywhere as a DemocRat and the law won't even apply to you anyway.

8 posted on 04/22/2014 9:49:37 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Wow, he is OK with gay marriage, but wants millions of new democrat felons voting, who needs amnesty when you can give the democrats millions of new voters, without Paul’s soft on immigration stance?

More proof that libertarianism makes conservative election winning, impossible.


9 posted on 04/22/2014 9:54:03 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The head of the NAACP is warming up to a Republican. This is something the lib’s absolutely don’t want.

I therefore conclude that this is a good thing.


10 posted on 04/22/2014 9:57:04 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: ansel12

Rand can’t beat Hillary sharing the same platform minus the free stuff.


11 posted on 04/22/2014 9:58:22 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Maybe the NAACP is tired of helping pols who overwhelmingly favor illegals.

It doesn't hurt to reach out as long as the basic premise of the party is not tailored to any specific group.

12 posted on 04/22/2014 10:04:52 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
The best way to wean the blacks off of the Democrat welfare tit, is to remove thier dependancy on it. And the best way to acomplish that, is to get them educated, and into jobs. And the only way to do that, is to get them out of the hopelessness that Democrats have conditoned them into.

Democrats are the true racists. They condition blacks from a young age into believing that everyone but them are racists. And that these racists are the ones that keep blacks from succeeding. And because of all the racists, blacks can't succeed in America, so they need the Democrats to take care of them.

Blacks are taught from a young age that they can not succeed in America, and therefore they couldn't even try. This is what is the root cause of the black dependance on welfare and Democrats. If you can get rid of that lack of hope, then the dependance can be broken.
13 posted on 04/22/2014 10:06:31 AM PDT by MMaschin
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To: PaulCruz2016

If the GOP ever wants to get a significant black vote, it will have to be for candidates who are seen as outsiders or at least average people.

The Bush/ McCain/Romney silver spoon types are intensely distasteful to minority voters.


14 posted on 04/22/2014 10:10:48 AM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Berlin_Freeper

After someone serves their sentence, their debt to society, are they no longer a citizen? They lose certain citizen rights. But can they expect to never become a true citizen again after their ‘debt’ is paid?

Lets also not forgot those wrongfully convicted. Or those who are criminals only due to ‘new’ laws being created. Heck, Bundy is considered a criminal to some lawmakers who want to prosecute him right now. There is also an active movement calling Christians, Vets, active military, and Tea Party folks terrorists right now. Something very important to consider.


15 posted on 04/22/2014 10:17:33 AM PDT by TianaHighrider (Restoration of the Constitution first and foremost)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It would be hard for anyone to beat someone giving out all that free stuff. That is the only way O.B. won. Whoever we put up there will have a heck of a tough time convincing voters what they can do is better for them than all the freebies combined. But it is not impossible.


16 posted on 04/22/2014 10:17:34 AM PDT by TianaHighrider (Restoration of the Constitution first and foremost)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
"He's a different voice in the arena that we don't traditionally hear, listen to"

Fixed.

17 posted on 04/22/2014 10:24:16 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Head fake. The NAALCP is never going to lean toward even a libertarian Republican.


18 posted on 04/22/2014 10:27:22 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: TianaHighrider

Ugh! When are we going to recognize the obvious? Civil war or slavery? Those are the options.


19 posted on 04/22/2014 10:38:12 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod
Often people don't fight back unless they ‘feel’ the threat individually. Hence all the ‘free stuff’ to calm the masses. That is why it is important to render the masses defenseless before stopping the ‘free stuff’.

What is not being considered by the ‘brains’ of that plan apparently is that there are a great deal of folks are not blinded with ‘free goody greed’ and know their God given rights are more important. I imagine the majority of the rest will wake from their oblivious spell quickly enough when the goods run out.

Btw- did you notice all the news reports on ‘beef prices going exceedingly high’ doesn't once mention the cattle ranchers being forced out of business by the feds?

20 posted on 04/22/2014 10:58:27 AM PDT by TianaHighrider (Restoration of the Constitution first and foremost)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
If you claim that the GOP is racist, you get invited by the NAACP to speak to them.
21 posted on 04/22/2014 11:06:58 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: ansel12; Berlin_Freeper
who needs amnesty when you can give the democrats millions of new voters, without Paul’s soft on immigration stance?

Your argument might have some merit if most states didn't already allow convicted felons the right to vote (Source).

22 posted on 04/22/2014 11:10:22 AM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: BarnacleCenturion

When democrats go after the evangelical right to life vote we should go after the black vote.

Or

When democrats go after the NRA vote...

Before that time it’s a waste of money and time.


23 posted on 04/22/2014 11:12:33 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats are waging war on white middle class men...)
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To: GOPJ

“Before that time it’s a waste of money and time.”

Not if you are losing elections.

The Dems are increasing their base with new Hispanic voters. The GOP will have to find new voters somewhere if it expects to ever win again.


24 posted on 04/22/2014 11:26:23 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

The argument has merit regardless of the numbers, because felon voting is a cause of Rand Paul. as part of his war against conservatism.


25 posted on 04/22/2014 11:38:50 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
The argument has merit regardless of the numbers...

Lulz. An argument not based in fact doesn't have much merit, so no.

26 posted on 04/22/2014 11:47:43 AM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The GOP can’t win by moving left with candidates like Romney and Rand Paul.

Social liberal Romney, won hugely with independents.


27 posted on 04/22/2014 11:50:41 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

The fact is Rand Paul’s political position, which is felon voting.

“Rand Paul fights for felon voting rights”

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/19/politics/rand-paul-felon-voting/


28 posted on 04/22/2014 11:59:06 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
And your argument was that this would create millions of new Democratic voters, which isn't the case based on the facts. In other words, the numbers don't support your claim that his political position would create millions of Democratic voters.

Further, as someone else asked, should individuals who have paid their debt to society not be able to resume their rights? What about the wrongfully convicted?

29 posted on 04/22/2014 12:06:00 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

I hadn’t realized the extent of the left’s/libertarian gains of felon voting, but it doesn’t change Rand Paul’s political agenda of calling for more felon voting.

My argument was about Rand Paul’s liberal politics, more than specific numbers.

It is like his coming out in support of gay marriage and against the GOP’s platform on social issues, which he wants the GOP to back off on.


30 posted on 04/22/2014 12:12:19 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

“moving left”

The candidate you support stands to the left of Rand Paul on EVERY issue. That’s a fact. Amnesty, gay rights at the state level, you name it. He’s a good speaker though.


31 posted on 04/22/2014 12:14:47 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

As Rand runs to head the federal government and appoint judges and the Supreme court and handle gay marriage in the military, federal employment and immigration, and share Obama’s foreign policy weakness.

Rand Paul: “I think that the Republican Party, in order to get bigger, will have to agree to disagree on social issues,” Paul advised. “The Republican Party is not going to give up on having quite a few people who do believe in traditional marriage. But the Republican Party also has to find a place for young people and others who don’t want to be festooned by those issues.”


32 posted on 04/22/2014 12:20:07 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

FURP (both)


33 posted on 04/22/2014 12:48:35 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: ansel12

Others are taking it a step further:

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2014/02/ted-cruz-pushes-for-legislation-that-respects-the-definition-of-marriage/


34 posted on 04/22/2014 12:51:34 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

You are reversing Ted Cruz’s position, while Rand Paul supports gay marriage and is campaigning to assist it, Ted Cruz is fighting it by trying to restore DOMA, to save what we can for the states who oppose it.

Ted Cruz is seeking ways to fight gay marriage, he supported DOMA, and is offering a new version to make up for what was taken, Rand Paul opposed DOMA, and is campaigning to advance gay marriage and social liberalism.


35 posted on 04/22/2014 1:02:03 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Sic Parvis Magna; ansel12
Your argument might have some merit if most states didn't already allow convicted felons the right to vote (Source).
Abortion utterly destroys your argument.
36 posted on 04/22/2014 1:03:00 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: TianaHighrider

New laws, wrongly convicted, Bundy, Tea Party.... is a straw-man argument.

Justice is not about a “debt” paid to society but rather punishment.

What “debt” is paid by sitting in a jail at the cost of the taxpayer?

I am not a fan like Paul is of fiends selling poison to youngsters.


37 posted on 04/22/2014 1:17:17 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

And abortion has what to do with the fact that felons can already vote in most states?


38 posted on 04/22/2014 1:45:07 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

The same authority of law on the books... and still Not Right (emphasis on “Not Right”, Right as opposed to Left).


39 posted on 04/22/2014 1:49:50 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Perhaps you missed the point, which was that allowing convicted felons to vote does not create millions of Democratic voters.

Further to respond to another point you made in this thread, justice isn't just about punishment. Justice is much more complex, involving ideas of restitution, fairness, etc. Your view that justice is merely about punishment is quite narrow and misguided, as is your opinion that someone who supports restoring voting rights to citizens cannot be part of the right.

40 posted on 04/22/2014 1:56:44 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: Sic Parvis Magna
Perhaps you missed the point, which was that allowing convicted felons to vote does not create millions of Democratic voters.

Further to respond to another point you made in this thread...

Actually, I didn't make that narrow point. Guess you missed that in your general confusion here.

justice isn't just about punishment. Justice is much more complex, involving ideas of restitution, fairness, etc.
Your confused ideas of restitution are called lawsuits. We are talking here about convicted felons who served jail time. A felon will go to jail independent of a civil lawsuit. A civil lawsuit has absolutely no bearing on the amount of time a felon will serve.

Nor does your silly liberal idea of "fairness".

41 posted on 04/22/2014 2:13:24 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: BarnacleCenturion; ansel12
The candidate you support stands to the left of Rand Paul on EVERY issue. That’s a fact. Amnesty, gay rights at the state level, you name it. He’s a good speaker though.

You're kidding, right?

Care to give some type of context to the tortured logic you are using to arrive at that conclusion?
42 posted on 04/22/2014 2:15:35 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Sic Parvis Magna
Oh yea, I especially like your "etc" part - Lmao!i
involving ideas of restitution, fairness, etc.

43 posted on 04/22/2014 2:15:57 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Sic Parvis Magna
Perhaps you missed the point, which was that allowing convicted felons to vote does not create millions of Democratic voters.
Actually, the point you made to me was very specific. You plainly stated that because most States have a law on the books, that made everything proper and correct....
Your argument might have some merit if most states didn't already allow convicted felons the right to vote (Source).
MY reply about Abortion devastated your silly notion. Which is way you desperately seek to now change the discussion. You need to learn to swallow a healthy dose of humility and admit when you are wrong, instead of wasting more of my time. Thanks!
44 posted on 04/22/2014 2:25:31 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Which is why...
45 posted on 04/22/2014 2:27:04 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

And restitution is part of punishment. Still no clue what your idea of “fairness, etc” is though... LoL!

Let me know if it ever kicks you in the behind and hands you a clue.


46 posted on 04/22/2014 2:32:11 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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I like to just place this link here. Like a pamphlet under the pillow...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3141542/posts


47 posted on 04/22/2014 2:40:50 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Baretta Intro - Sammy Davis Jr
48 posted on 04/22/2014 3:04:15 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: BarnacleCenturion; Liz
The Dems are increasing their base with new Hispanic voters. The GOP will have to find new voters somewhere if it expects to ever win again.

You're sooooo right Barnacle... and I have the solution. We 'find' voters the same way dems find voters... And trust me they're not raiding our base to fine new voters...

Here's the plan:

We go to some poor Asian country and offer free citizenship to say ... 30 million Vietnamese or North Koreans - maybe Chinese... whatever ON THE CONDITION they vote Republican. To sweeten the pot we offer food stamps, welfare, medicare for their parents and a free education for their kids....

In addition we'll try to find some airhead democrat to talk about how coming here is an 'act of love' or some such bullsh*t. Do you know of any democrats as stupid as our own Jeb Bush?

Is that a cool solution or what?

We do what dems do... Or course I'm not sure if the New YUCK Times will pretend to be as gullible about our 'dreamers' as they are about democrat's 'dreamers'... but who knows. If they call us on it they'll be showing they knew what was going on with democrats all along... and I don't think they want to admit that... do you?

Same for the Washington Post... and LA Times...

49 posted on 04/22/2014 4:13:00 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats are waging war on white middle class men...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

You introduction of abortion was nothing more than attempt to change the subject. It didn’t work.


50 posted on 04/25/2014 9:47:27 AM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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