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Connecticut imprisonment of transgender teen ‘unconstitutional,’ lawyer says
nhregister.com ^ | 04/22/2014 | Randall Beach

Posted on 04/22/2014 11:20:35 AM PDT by massmike

Is it a violation of a 16-year-old’s rights to place her in a prison with adult inmates even though she has not been charged with any crime?

Her treatment is appropriate and legal because she has “an extensive history of violence” against staffers and other residents of psychiatric facilities, according to the Connecticut Department of Children and Families.

The youth is a female transgender child who was born male but identifies as a female. In court documents she is identified as Jane Doe in order to protect her identity.

“The youth has an extensive history of violence, including targeting female staff at several programs as well as other girls in the programs,” DCF said.

The most recent violent episode, DCF stated, came at a Massachusetts residential program where the youth assaulted a female staffer, “breaking her jaw and temporarily blinding her in one eye.”

DCF described her as “uniquely dangerous, in that no other youth at the Connecticut Juvenile Training School has exhibited such a long-established pattern of assaults.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nhregister.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: genderiddisorder; homosexualagenda; inmates; teens

1 posted on 04/22/2014 11:20:35 AM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike

Doesn’t sound very lady-like to me. Put him in a men’s facility where he belongs.


2 posted on 04/22/2014 11:23:45 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: massmike

The youth is a female transgender child who was born male but identifies as a female.


OK, that comment was funny. You can figure out the gender of a human the same way you can with most mammals. Look between their legs.


3 posted on 04/22/2014 11:24:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: massmike
The youth is a female transgender child who was born male but identifies as a female.

It is still male, albeit not a normal one, but still male.

4 posted on 04/22/2014 11:24:57 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: cuban leaf

Why is the prison system i.e. detention & punishment interested in whether the person identifies as a woman, a Beatles fan, a hang gliding enthusiast or a gardener?


5 posted on 04/22/2014 11:26:39 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: cuban leaf
The youth is a female transgender child who was born male but identifies as a female.


6 posted on 04/22/2014 11:27:19 AM PDT by massmike ("You only live once, but it does help if you get to be young twice.")
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To: massmike

youth assaulted a female staffer, “breaking her jaw and temporarily blinding her in one eye.”

Sounds like a crime to me


7 posted on 04/22/2014 11:28:56 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: massmike

How the !#$%!#$%$^&* is this underage boy TRANSGENDERED? Did the state pay to castrate this boy, and did the state pay to give this boy a boob job? Who authorized any of that?


8 posted on 04/22/2014 11:31:15 AM PDT by mrreaganaut (Scott Walker 2016!)
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To: mrreaganaut
did the state pay to give this boy a boob job?

The only positive comment in her nine-page affidavit was her saying: “I have been provided with hormone treatments through DCF to further develop physical characteristics, including breasts.”

9 posted on 04/22/2014 11:36:55 AM PDT by massmike ("You only live once, but it does help if you get to be young twice.")
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To: massmike

Jeez-enough of this crap-if the judge says HE us an adult, put HIM into the general prison population and forget about him until it is time for a parole hearing...


10 posted on 04/22/2014 11:37:02 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: relictele

Why is the prison system i.e. detention & punishment interested in whether the person identifies as a woman, a Beatles fan, a hang gliding enthusiast or a gardener?


That’s kinda how I see it. A “Transgender” man that is sincere in his sexual confusion is merely mentally ill and should be treated as such. Treating him as a woman, right down to letting women try to handle him is sheer lunacy.


11 posted on 04/22/2014 11:38:47 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: mrreaganaut

The article didn’;t make it quite clewar, my guess is he is being given female hormones but is pre-op, i.e. they haven’t castrated him (yet).


12 posted on 04/22/2014 11:39:07 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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To: massmike

A violent teen male is violent teen male whatever the hell he feels like! How is this even an issue..??


13 posted on 04/22/2014 11:40:14 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: massmike

In other words it’s a male


14 posted on 04/22/2014 11:42:02 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: massmike

Insane, and a minor at that


15 posted on 04/22/2014 11:42:52 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: massmike

targeting female staff at several programs as well as other girls in the programs,”

Hmmm, maybe the “gender identity” is just a ruse to have easier access to women and girls to target? What better hunting grounds than in a lady’s room or a woman’s facility?


16 posted on 04/22/2014 11:45:51 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: cuban leaf

EXACTLY how I see it. Encouraging this kind of mental illness to create another class of “victims” isn’t a kindness, it’s doing them a disservice. It’s child abuse. It’s lunacy. One does not create a zebra by painting stripes on a horse, for crying out loud!


17 posted on 04/22/2014 11:46:31 AM PDT by SoKatt ("Change" is not a strategy!)
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To: massmike

“an extensive history of violence” against staffers and other residents of psychiatric facilities

Well then, too damn bad....


18 posted on 04/22/2014 11:46:38 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: massmike

Does he have the same chromosomes, or two different ones? Its that simple.


19 posted on 04/22/2014 11:47:56 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: mrreaganaut

Given their behavioral history, maybe neutering is not a bad idea....


20 posted on 04/22/2014 11:48:11 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: massmike
Is it a violation of a 16-year-old’s rights to place her in a prison with adult inmates even though she has not been charged with any crime . . . extensive history of violence, including targeting female staff at several programs as well as other girls in the programs . . . assaulted a female staffer, “breaking her jaw and temporarily blinding her in one eye.”

Why has this mentally ill guy not been charged with the numerous crimes he has committed. It is certainly wrong to put him in an adult prison without charging him with a crime, but the solution is obvious - file criminal charges for these felonies.

21 posted on 04/22/2014 11:49:50 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: massmike

‘She’ has not been charged with any crime solely because insane people are not legally responsible for their actions.

The critical thing here is if ‘it’ is being kept in a prison psychiatric area. If so, ‘it’ is not “in prison”, but under a higher security detention than the psychiatric facility can provide. Likely a “private room”, since such people are regarded as a “threat to themselves and others.”

However, if they have put ‘it’ in with the general population of prisoners, they are in error.


22 posted on 04/22/2014 11:49:53 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: massmike

Hit your thumb with a hammer and, inevitably, it will hurt. Vote for #Democrats and this insanity is no less inevitable.


23 posted on 04/22/2014 11:50:09 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too... @Onelifetogive)
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To: SoKatt

I think they are doing all this lunacy to try to get all the conservatives’ heads to explode.


24 posted on 04/22/2014 11:50:52 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

They’re looking for votes...and it appears to be working.


25 posted on 04/22/2014 11:52:34 AM PDT by SoKatt ("Change" is not a strategy!)
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To: cardinal4

If they sent this “indivudal” to Boston Children’s maybe they would say that “It’s all in his mind” like they have for Justina Peltier?????

No they certainly wouldn’t, they would use a double standard because of PC bullcrap.....

It is a damn crime this violent offender is being coddled while Justina is beging treated like a criminal because one doctor disagreed with another doctor and won’t accept the possibility of a second opinion....

It is almost like a “Tale of two Children”....


26 posted on 04/22/2014 11:52:58 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: SoKatt

This young person has had a truly horrible life. I would suggest that all read the linked article. Truly horrendous “up-bringing! I have no idea how to take care of this situation. But prison does not seem right. The kid is really messed-up, because of this;

“She has been in DCF custody since age 5. A legal complaint filed in federal court by attorney Aaron J. Romano and the girl’s affidavit describe a series of hellishly violent homes in which she has lived off-and-on since that age.

“I was placed in DCF custody because my father was incarcerated and my mother was using heroin, crack, alcohol and possibly other drugs,” the girl wrote.

“While in DCF custody, I have suffered immensely,” she added. “I feel that DCF has failed to protect me from harm and I am now thrown into prison because they have refused to help me.”

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Romano charged: “While under the supervision and care of DCF, from ages eight through 16, Jane Doe was repeatedly drugged, beaten, raped, homeless and was being commercially sexually exploited.”

That’s pretty rough!


27 posted on 04/22/2014 11:56:27 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: massmike

“The youth is a female transgender child who was born male but is E’fed up in many ways”. I like that better.


28 posted on 04/22/2014 11:59:30 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I refuse to read an article where the authors further enable and thus exacerbates the problem by referring to the subject by it’s chosen gender. All the hormones, surgery, and far left, whack-doodle, liberalism, cannot not this male of his Y chromosome. Period. Full stop. Game over.


29 posted on 04/22/2014 12:01:33 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: cardinal4

I’m not talking about the “Gender confusion” thing. But I think that the child’s upbringing has caused it.

“from ages eight through 16, Jane Doe was repeatedly drugged, beaten, raped, homeless and was being commercially sexually exploited.”

For a young boy that means anal rape, over and over. The kid’s life has twisted his brain. I think he needs very significant psychiatric treatment, which is very unlikely in prison.


30 posted on 04/22/2014 12:06:41 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: massmike

He needs to be in an adult male prison, not a girls school. Bubba and friends will make him feel like a girl, if that is what he needs to be happy.


31 posted on 04/22/2014 12:09:57 PM PDT by soycd
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To: soycd

Send him to the fruit farm.


32 posted on 04/22/2014 12:29:07 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: massmike
“The youth has an extensive history of violence, including targeting female staff at several programs as well as other girls in the programs,” DCF said.

It sounds like suffering from sexual disorientation isn't the only issue that the freak has.

33 posted on 04/22/2014 12:35:26 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: soycd

You could read post 27 and post 30.


34 posted on 04/22/2014 12:37:00 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Entropy is high. Wear a hat! And carry an umbrella.)
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To: massmike

The youth is a female transgender child who was born male but identifies as a female

Right there is your problem. You are allowing him to call the shots and control the situation.
No such thing as a transgender anything. You are either male female or ill. Those are the only three choices.......


35 posted on 04/22/2014 12:46:08 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: Tax-chick

Point taken. Whatever HIS issue is, compounding it by demanding to be addressed as a female and getting locked up with females is not the right approach. Beating up female guards is not a good way to stay out of prison, or gain sympathy from sane individuals.

Give HIM one more chance at foster care or a BOYs school, and have him lose the female gender, attention grabbing shtick.


36 posted on 04/22/2014 1:04:53 PM PDT by soycd
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To: massmike
Is it a violation of a 16-year-old’s rights to place her it in a prison with adult inmates even though she it has not been charged with any crime?

Her Its treatment is appropriate and legal because she it has “an extensive history of violence” against staffers and other residents of psychiatric facilities, according to the Connecticut Department of Children and Families.

37 posted on 04/22/2014 2:17:17 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: soycd

I agree that putting him with girls or women is a bad idea. He needs intense psychiatric care, as a man.


38 posted on 04/22/2014 3:33:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Entropy is high. Wear a hat! And carry an umbrella.)
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