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“If Obamacare Dies, Sarah Palin Killed It”
The National Review ^ | April 22, 2013 | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on 04/22/2014 3:48:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Several weeks ago the World Affairs Council of Philadelphia sponsored a debate–more a discussion–between me and Thaddeus Mason Pope about end of life care under the Affordable Care Act. He supports medical futility. I oppose it. We went from there.

I began my presentation with the quote in the headline above–asserting that Palin’s term “death panels” may have put a spear through the heart of Obamacare.

I then said:

People are afraid of centralized bureaucrats dictating whether Craig’s [the moderator’s terminally ill babies) children can have medical care, whether my 96-year-old mother can have medical care, whether people with disabilities can have medical care…If you start looking at a quality of life ethic instead of an equality of life ethic, you’ve broken the back of Hippocratic medical values…

I worry you are deprofessionalizing medicine, turning it into a technocratic endeavor. I don’t think that’s good for the country. I don’t think that’s good for the medical system. And I don’t think that’s good for patients.

It was a good and thorough discussion, during which we disagreed and agreed about differing aspects of medical futility, health care rationing, and Obamacare. If you are interested, here is the link to the Youtube video.

I hope you will take the time to tune in, because your life and that of those you love are materially impacted by these issues.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aca; deathpanels; fascism; medicine; obama; obamacare; palin; socializedmedicine

1 posted on 04/22/2014 3:48:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

HMO’s and the insurance companies started the ruin, this totally kills it.


2 posted on 04/22/2014 3:51:49 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hooray for sarah palin.


3 posted on 04/22/2014 3:53:14 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
she was right again. Sarah Palin , I hope you run for president in 2016

4 posted on 04/22/2014 3:53:44 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

nice trophy


5 posted on 04/22/2014 3:54:05 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“If Obamacare Dies, Sarah Palin Killed It”

If Sarah Palin alone manages to kill Zerocare, I submit we should appoint her Empress for life! Unfortunately I have begun to believe it will take the Second American Revolution to actually get rid of it.

6 posted on 04/22/2014 3:54:55 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If she gets credit for killing this terrible law, that will be another reason to celebrate President Sarah Palin [and she deserves that title at least as much as the current occupant of our White House - more if she wins an honest election in 2016].


7 posted on 04/22/2014 3:56:25 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can see a painting now entitled Sarah d’Arc leading her army against OBarbariancare:

http://www.maidofheaven.com/joanofarc_banner.asp

Or even better with her on a horse slaying a beast “St. Sarah and the Dragon”:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Raphael_-_Saint_George_Fighting_the_Dragon.jpg


8 posted on 04/22/2014 3:56:49 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Outstanding. Thanks for the post, 2DV.


9 posted on 04/22/2014 3:58:47 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good I hope so.

Goodness NR is really off in the weeds for the last decade (and more). I am sure Bill is turning rapidly


10 posted on 04/22/2014 4:01:21 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I say we pin a medal on her for doing so.


11 posted on 04/22/2014 4:03:02 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

>>I say we pin a medal on her for doing so.<<

*waving hand* ME ME ME — let ME pin it on her!!!!!


12 posted on 04/22/2014 4:06:30 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I LOVE Sarah Palin.

God, family, country and guns...she’s my kind of woman. I wish she lived next door.


13 posted on 04/22/2014 4:07:32 PM PDT by bimboeruption ("We Recognize No Sovereign But God, And No King But Jesus!" - John Adams & John Hancock)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If she is credited with killing this monstrosity she should be canonized Saint Sarah of Wasilla, protector of the downtrodden. I don’t care if she is Catholic or not.


14 posted on 04/22/2014 4:07:38 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: freedumb2003

Sorry pal. My idea so I get to do the pinning. Maybe after a nice dinner and a bottle of wine or two.


15 posted on 04/22/2014 4:07:42 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Palin killed Obamacare, the only way it could have survived is if the lie were left unchallenged.


16 posted on 04/22/2014 4:08:07 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: All

I did not realize how much power she has, being outside of Washington, DC and all. What else did she destroy? Maybe she will soon kick many RINO’s into the Democrat party, where they can be birds of a feather.


17 posted on 04/22/2014 4:08:46 PM PDT by Klemper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How to create a socialist/communist state by Saul Alinsky (leftwing communist):

There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state.

The first is the most important.

1) Healthcare — Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty — Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt — Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control — Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare — Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).

6) Education — Take control of what people read and listen to — take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion — Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.

8) Class Warfare — Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

Now, think ...

Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States?

18 posted on 04/22/2014 4:09:04 PM PDT by newfreep
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No. If it dies it would be because it was the wrong policy for the country and people recognized that.

Victories or defeats attributed to personalities can be more easily overturned than those attributed to human nature and the natural order of the world.

20 posted on 04/22/2014 4:13:14 PM PDT by x
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To: Lurker

>>Sorry pal. My idea so I get to do the pinning. Maybe after a nice dinner and a bottle of wine or two.<<

*sigh*

Shop Assistant: Is this some kind of bust?
Drebin: Well, it’s very impressive, yes, but we need to ask you a few questions


21 posted on 04/22/2014 4:14:28 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: huldah1776
HMO’s and the insurance companies started the ruin, this totally kills it.

WHAT?

Wrong.

22 posted on 04/22/2014 4:15:37 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah was right about zero — everything she warned us about him.

She was right about zerocare and calling them out on death panels.

She was right about Russia/Putin.

That’s three recent major things right there, and Sarah was right about them all. Who else was right and not afraid to say it out loud?

No wonder they want to shut her up.


23 posted on 04/22/2014 4:23:19 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just another reason, one of many many reasons, to love Sarah Palin!


24 posted on 04/22/2014 4:25:03 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Mrs. Palin used to be broke but not flat busted.

;-)

Todd Palin is one of the luckiest people on earth.


25 posted on 04/22/2014 4:33:06 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a wonderful legacy - I’ll keep my fingers crossed...


26 posted on 04/22/2014 4:34:19 PM PDT by awelliott (What one generation tolerates, the next embraces....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, whatever.


27 posted on 04/22/2014 4:35:20 PM PDT by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Palin kills Obamney Care I say good shooting girl!


28 posted on 04/22/2014 4:39:50 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is there anything Sarah cannot do? Sheesh, talk about living rent-free in the “mind” of libs!


29 posted on 04/22/2014 4:58:32 PM PDT by Freedom_Fighter_2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, the lady does know how to take down big game. She duly warned us. Too many chose not to listen.

They chose poorly.


30 posted on 04/22/2014 5:03:04 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Feather in Sarah’s cap.


31 posted on 04/22/2014 5:21:07 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She shoots...

...she SCORES!


32 posted on 04/22/2014 9:24:06 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (Sarah Palin - Last Man Standing (Ironic, ain't it?))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Only Gov Palin can save this country and the free world


33 posted on 04/22/2014 11:32:31 PM PDT by SarahPalinForPresident2012 (And 2016 as well)
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