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California is Funding Luxury Vacations for Welfare Takers
AUN-TV and LA Times ^ | 4-22-2014 | Dana Allen

Posted on 04/22/2014 4:16:17 PM PDT by ScamFix

$69 million in California welfare money drawn out of state. Las Vegas tops the list with $11.8 million spent at casinos or taken from ATMs, but transactions in Hawaii, Miami, Guam and elsewhere also raise questions. Officials say budget cuts hinder investigations.

Round-trip flights from Los Angeles to Honolulu on Orbitz.com Sunday started at $419 — more than 80% of the average monthly cash benefit for a single parent of two on CalWorks, the state’s main aid program.

“How they can go somewhere like Hawaii and be legit on aid … they can’t,” said Robert Hollenbeck, a fraud investigator for the Fresno County district attorney’s office. “This is money for basic subsistence needs.”

The $387,908 accessed in Hawaii includes transactions at more than a thousand big-box stores, grocery stores, convenience shops and ATMs on all the major islands. At least $234,000 was accessed on Oahu, $70,626 on Maui, $39,883 on Hawaii and $22,170 on Kauai.

The list includes $12,433 spent at the upscale Ala Moana shopping center, $3,030 spent at a group of gift shops next to Jimmy Buffett’s Beachcomber restaurant on Waikiki Beach and $2,146 withdrawn from ATMs on the island of Lanai, home to a pair of Four Seasons resorts and little else.

You can read more here at LA Times: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/04/local/la-me-welfare-20101004

Here is a video by a political organization that mocks the waste:

The bottom line is why would the California Government care about this? It is not their money it is yours. So there is no surprise that such things are happening.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; fraud; vacations; welfare

1 posted on 04/22/2014 4:16:17 PM PDT by ScamFix
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To: ScamFix
Officials say budget cuts hinder investigations.

How clever.

This is the quality of "professional" running things in government, folks.

Lies and distractions.

2 posted on 04/22/2014 4:21:05 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: ScamFix

If they have money to travel to Hawaii, there’s definitely unreported income. Welfare is supposed to help pay for rent, basic necessities and transportation. Its not meant to subsidize luxury vacations on the taxpayer’s dime.


3 posted on 04/22/2014 4:21:46 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ScamFix

Same thing here in Indiana.

One of the tv stations got a file with all the TANF card swipes for last year.

Vegas, Nevada brothels, Puerto Rico, Disney (CA & FL), Jersey Casinos, etc


4 posted on 04/22/2014 4:24:48 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: ScamFix

Allow me to say I am legitimately surprised to see this reported by the LA Times.


5 posted on 04/22/2014 4:25:53 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: ScamFix

Hey, just because people don’t work doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be able to take nice vacations.

Although I normally work 55+hrs/week and have not been been able to afford a vacation more than 50 miles from here in years.


6 posted on 04/22/2014 4:28:14 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: nascarnation

Unlike EBT, where one can swipe the benefit card only to pay for food, TANF is wide open to abuse since cash disbursement is on the “honor system.” No one tracks how its spent or on what.


7 posted on 04/22/2014 4:28:21 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: logic101.net

People on TANF are required to work to obtain benefits. They would indignantly say they’re not free-loaders. And if they do work, taking a vacation like every one else - that won’t raise too many questions. But taking a luxury vacation sounds like a stretch.


8 posted on 04/22/2014 4:31:36 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

It definitely was providing all kinds of “pleasure” for our fellow Hoosiers, although much of it out of state.

I was impressed at the job the tv station did to squeeze the data out of the state govt and go through it all to find the many questionable swipes.


9 posted on 04/22/2014 4:32:42 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: goldstategop
TANF is wide open to abuse since cash disbursement is on the “honor system.” No one tracks how its spent or on what.

That's because we wouldn't want to bruise the fragile "dignity" of these women who spread their legs for multiple men and have multiple children out of wedlock.


10 posted on 04/22/2014 4:40:14 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: ScamFix

I didn’t really have time to read the whole article as the headline basically tells me all I really need to know in regards to this ‘subject’ BUT I am sure the objective reporter mentioned the two most famous people being supported by the public in terms of food, shelter and travel and their ‘lush vacations’ and side trips are just considered by the ‘needy’ to be the norm.

OTOH Hawaii, Nevada and the other states— that are being the recipient of the funds California deemed NECESSARY for the life and well being of its down trodden citizens, of course it can probably be safely assumed that if they are getting ‘assistance’ from CA, the FED probably gets to kick in something, be it Cell Phones or Food Stamps or Housing Subsidies or all - are being thankful AND would raise hell if this ‘windfall’ money were to be cut off.

To see the way the other side ‘thinks’, watch Judge Judy now and then when these people actually stand up in court EXPECTING compensation from a Court Proceeding while loaning an unregistered car or driving a car without a license, people with no visible income LOANING money to neighbors or family/friends with no visible means of support or income with the ‘excuse’ being I ‘borrowed(sic) the money out of my Student Loan, Family assistance or whatever, while expecting to get paid back from same’.

Sad part is the two parties do not see anything wrong with their actions - not maliciously, just that they can actually see nothing wrong with having drawn ‘assistance’ all their life or illegally operating a motor vehicle with no insurance.

On occasion ‘she’ will say Byrd and I are getting tired of carrying you people but it is obvious the people don’t have a ‘clue’.

Call me old fashioned but I wouldn’t really sue ANYONE for a loan especially NOT a family member...I come from the ‘old school’ that warns us - ‘Don’t loan money to friends or family that you can’t afford to not get back - no matter what the promise of payment is’.

These shows have family members suing each other over a couple hundred bucks BUT I guess if you have 7 siblings with 7 different ‘last names’ it is kind of hard to get emotionally close.


11 posted on 04/22/2014 4:44:22 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98 --"I would agree with you BUT that would make both of us wrong".))
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To: ScamFix
It would cost almost nothing to modify the accessibility of the cards to restrict them to:

In state (or county) purchases Not valid at hotels, Casinos, brothels, them parks, strip clubs etc.

Only thing needed is the desire to do so.

12 posted on 04/22/2014 4:48:27 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: Michael.SF.
Correction: them parks, strip clubs etc.

Meant to say: Them there theme parks and them strip clubs

;)

13 posted on 04/22/2014 4:51:03 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: ScamFix

It’s called reparations.


14 posted on 04/22/2014 4:54:18 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Michael.SF.

The truth is that there is a huge conflict of interest. Wasteful welfare spending is bad for America, and in long run for the Takers. It is bad for everyone except the Democrat Party and Welfare workers.

If you can get someone that is able bodied to fake a disability, get on drugs, and be criminal and sleazy the chances are about 99% they will vote Democrat. Obama and Brown WANT welfare fraud, it is in their best intersts.

Cheers


15 posted on 04/22/2014 4:57:59 PM PDT by ScamFix
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To: Michael.SF.
(limit to) In state (or county) purchases

Lots of people live right on state lines. Live in one and work/shop in the other. Not feasible.

Not valid at hotels, Casinos, brothels, them parks, strip clubs etc.

If too many classes of establishments are restricted then JPM/Chase or whoever has the contract to process card transactions will sue for breech of contract -- loss revenue. Some of the vendors will sue also. It isn't all that easy to correctly identify all of the undesirable ones either.

16 posted on 04/22/2014 4:59:45 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: nascarnation

Yep, guess they are having quality control problems at LA Times, some high quality stories sneak past inspectors ;-)


17 posted on 04/22/2014 4:59:49 PM PDT by ScamFix
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To: ScamFix

Just recently, after being owners for 14 years, a well-known NorCal city is asking us to take out a business license on an office building we own there. They want to levy a license fee based on our gross rental income. We asked the city for an explanation and of course “it’s a newly passed ordinance.” It’s really dialing for dollars to support the city in the style to which it had become accustomed, but no longer can support. But the kicker was when we asked what we would get in exchange for the fee and the clerk was honest enough to say “ not a damned thing!”


18 posted on 04/22/2014 5:11:28 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

The idea is to create Democrat Heaven. Drive productive people into giving up, generate as much corrupt and unproductive people as possible, ruin the economy and presto you have Democrat Heaven where 90%+ vote Democrat.

Democrat Heaven is Detroit, Flint, North Philly.

Terrible for the people, terrible for America, but Democrat Heaven


19 posted on 04/22/2014 5:18:41 PM PDT by ScamFix
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To: steve86

It can be done. My company does it on credit cards used by salesmen all the time


20 posted on 04/22/2014 5:31:33 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: Michael.SF.

TANF/EBT are a form of debit card. They work exactly the same way at POS as Visa/Mastercard. I’m betting before not too long - they’ll be Visa/Mastercard branded.


21 posted on 04/22/2014 5:58:00 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ScamFix

“How they can go somewhere like Hawaii and be legit on aid …

Let’s see. They’re more creative than you. They’re smarter than you. Or most probably they are aware that you are a desk bound lazy bureaucrat that will always allow them to slide after you get your 10 minutes of fame.


22 posted on 04/22/2014 7:11:50 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Watching MSM news readers pimping His Arrogance is like watching a dog eat its own vomit!)
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