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Rand Paul: I think Republicans may have over-emphasized voter fraud
Hotair ^ | 04/23/2014 | AllahPundit

Posted on 04/23/2014 2:04:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Via WaPo and RCP, another nugget mined from yesterday’s chat with Axelrod in Chicago. As with abortion, Paul’s “different kind of Republican” brand requires a compromise here. He knows that most voters, including those in his own party, support voter-ID laws; he also knows that those laws are easily demagogued as racist by lefties, which means that toeing the GOP line too closely could jeopardize Paul’s effort to connect with black voters. What’s a different kind of Republican to do? He insists that ID is a good idea — “I don’t think dead people should vote” — but concedes to Axelrod that the GOP has over-emphasized it in light of some data suggesting that actual fraud is negligible. (There are, however, many millions of invalid voter registrations on the books.) What did people expect him to say? He’s already come out in favor of restoring voting rights to nonviolent felons. He also says here that, unlike many GOPers, he supports early voting. All of this will be useful to him if/when Democrats start in on him for questioning the 1964 Civil Rights Act. He’s building a defense to racism charges and distinguishing himself from his party, which is unpopular with the constituencies he’s trying to appeal to, at the same time.

Anyway. While we’re on the subject of Paul oppo research, that Mother Jones piece that I mentioned earlier is blowing up among lefties, who seem convinced that Paul is now DOA in the primaries because he — gasp — noted that Jimmy Carter kept spending lower than Reagan. Is that right? Which of his opponents, please tell me, is going to attack him for complaining that federal spending has been too high, even under conservative leadership? It’s okay to criticize even Reagan so long as you’re attacking from the right; if you don’t believe me, stop and think how many Republicans you’ve heard say in the past year alone that we can’t afford a repeat of the 1986 amnesty that Reagan signed into law.

If Paul’s comments about Carter and Reagan end up giving him trouble, it won’t be because he dared to question the Gipper. It’ll be because, allegedly, they’re further evidence of Paul’s foreign-policy weakness: The reason Reagan spent more, Paul’s critics will say, is because he was hellbent on bringing down the Soviet Union in a way that Carter never was. Deficit spending is lamentable but defensible if the cause it serves is noble enough. Would President Paul have refused to spend the necessary dollars even if it meant a reprieve for the failing Soviet Union? In that case, perhaps he’s too dovish after all. That’ll be how the Carter/Reagan comments are spun, if anyone even thinks to attack him on it.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; libtardian; randpaul; randpaultruthfile; randsconcerntrolls; ronpaultruthfile; voterfraud; voterid
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1 posted on 04/23/2014 2:04:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

FURP


2 posted on 04/23/2014 2:05:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The best way to control opposition is to lead it ourselves." -- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think some folks over emphasized Rand Paul as a legit national figure.

He has bought into the “kinder gentler” - “see, we mean you no harm” school of thought full fledged.


3 posted on 04/23/2014 2:06:35 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rand Paul is a creep and a snake. He thinks he’s fooled conservatives enough to support him, now he’s going after the rest of his looney dad’s followers. He can go to hell.


4 posted on 04/23/2014 2:07:10 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: SeekAndFind

The more he opens his mouth, the more I think the nut doesn’t fall too far from the tree.


5 posted on 04/23/2014 2:07:20 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: SeekAndFind

FURP!


6 posted on 04/23/2014 2:07:58 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: SeekAndFind

What kind of delusional world is he living in? Blacks arent about to vote for him or any other GOPer.

Forget about them, they make their beds. Start talking about ending “affirmative action” “Diversity” illegal immigration. Voters will migrate to those issues, they’re tired of all the excuses and racial hypocrisy.

And one more thing: stop letting the MSM define the issues. Eff em.


7 posted on 04/23/2014 2:08:29 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Hey 2008, we told you so)
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To: SeekAndFind
I think it's underestimated. I think the absentee and early voting is the way to manipulate each and every election.

The Dems have beat the system because they calculate and infiltrate the returns of specific districts that carry the state. In other words, they cheat.

8 posted on 04/23/2014 2:09:54 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Voter ID is a minimum requirement.

These very folks who are allegedly disenfranchised are able to produce a valid ID for their EBT cards faster than a switchblade.


9 posted on 04/23/2014 2:11:52 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: SeekAndFind

How much fraud is ok with him?


10 posted on 04/23/2014 2:12:34 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind

Rand, Rand, Rand. Everything he says here lately, lets a little more air out of my balloon of enthusiasm to see him elected. Praising Carter of Reagan, Expressing allegience with Jeb’s ‘Act of Love’ warblings, now this. Oh well, best that all this
spillage of dirty detail happens now, vs next year, when the campaigns will be nearing full swing. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are smart not to jump on these comments at this time. Let Rand tell his story in his own words.


11 posted on 04/23/2014 2:13:15 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s just as big of an idiot as his nutcase father. I’ll vote democrat before I’d vote for this idiot.


12 posted on 04/23/2014 2:15:06 PM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: ilovesarah2012
RE: How much fraud is ok with him?

Clearly this much is not enough
13 posted on 04/23/2014 2:15:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: TomGuy
Just when I think lil' Randy has said the stupidest thing ever, his mouth jest keeps on a-movin'.
14 posted on 04/23/2014 2:16:12 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
"i think some folks over emphasized Rand Paul as a legit national figure."

beared repeating

15 posted on 04/23/2014 2:16:57 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Rand Paul is vastly UNDERestimating voter fraud.


16 posted on 04/23/2014 2:18:08 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: SeekAndFind

So the 40,000 voters registered in BOTH Va. & Md. Is an over-emphasis?


17 posted on 04/23/2014 2:20:27 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: ChuckHam
Slam, Bam, ChuckHam!!! Couldn't have said it better!!!

That's the way... (uh huh, uh huh) The way I like it…(uh huh, uh huh)!!!

Play it AGAIN, ChuckHam!!!

Second verse, a little bit louder and a little bit worse!!!

18 posted on 04/23/2014 2:20:46 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Due to rapidly increasing cost of ammo, there will be no warning shots!!!)
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To: lee martell

Let us not forget, it was JC who made the national speed limit 55MPH.


19 posted on 04/23/2014 2:24:34 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ol’ Rand’s batting a thousand today, isn’t he? Quite a deliberate flame-out.


20 posted on 04/23/2014 2:32:44 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Delta Dawn

Uh no. That was Nixon.


21 posted on 04/23/2014 2:33:27 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty

Fine with me, the more time folks have to see the crazy the better.


22 posted on 04/23/2014 2:34:32 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Cyber Liberty

Hey the Paulistas Version 2 still see no issue with the guy. so get ready for another “He van win” fiasco a’la Romney.


23 posted on 04/23/2014 2:37:30 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rand continues to reveal himself gradually and I think fewer and fewer will like what they see. And his statement concerning an emphasis on voter fraud is actually pretty non-sensical.

If there have been any Republican office holders emphasizing voter fraud to any significant extent, then I missed it. Some commentators mention it, but the move to require voter ID in many states hasn’t included too much discussion of voter fraud.

It’s the Dims like Obama and Holder fighting voter ID and any control on who votes that have been squealing and claiming there is no voter fraud, and that any check on who votes is the ever present (according to the Dims) “voter suppression”.


24 posted on 04/23/2014 2:37:31 PM PDT by Will88
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To: pgkdan
He (Rand Paul) thinks he's fooled conservatives....now he's going after his looney dad's followers

I don't agree with your assessment of Ron Paul. He is flawed, for sure, but it was his arrogant talk-down-to-us supporters that made it impossible to support Ron Paul. They knew everything.

I'm seeing Rand Paul more as someone who is all over the place, kind of an ADHD mind. Rand hasn't been against war-mongering, so I'd be surprised if he's imrpessing his dad's supporters. He came out on the side of the Bundy's eventually, but he didn't have the natural instincts to do so during the fast-moving events.

I thought there was hope for Rand Paul. But now it seems that he's got DC disease and he's more interested in forming a coalition than he is in developing his core values.

Rand Paul is not our saviour.

25 posted on 04/23/2014 2:41:01 PM PDT by grania
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To: Will88

I think Republicans are prohibited from filing suits that allege voter fraud.


26 posted on 04/23/2014 2:41:16 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: SeekAndFind

What an idoit!


27 posted on 04/23/2014 2:42:07 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Why is Jon Corzine a free man?)
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To: grania
I don't agree with your assessment of Ron Paul. He is flawed, for sure, but it was his arrogant talk-down-to-us supporters that made it impossible to support Ron Paul. They knew everything.

Very true. Ron Paul may have had a chance, but his maniacal supporters drove everybody off. It was like Howard Dean and his orange-caps.

28 posted on 04/23/2014 2:43:50 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Over 40,000 voters are registered in both Virginia and Maryland, group finds

77 Examples of Voter Fraud Registered to Same Phony Address in North Carolina

No Justice Department Charges Against Ohio Woman Who Voted Six Times for Obama

Breaking: Obama campaign caught in major NC vote fraud scheme

Voter Fraud That 'Never Happens' Keeps Coming Back

Dems In Maryland, NJ, NY And Massachusetts Face Prison Time For Voter Fraud

29 posted on 04/23/2014 2:44:54 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

and those same supporters are on the Rand train for the most part….and they haven’t changed.


30 posted on 04/23/2014 2:46:10 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Will88

post 24…exactly!!


31 posted on 04/23/2014 2:46:46 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Maaaaannnnnnnnnn!!! I gotta stop doing drugs before dinner...


32 posted on 04/23/2014 2:49:11 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: SeekAndFind

no longer any doubt.
it’s gonna have to be Ted Cruz


33 posted on 04/23/2014 2:51:30 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: SeekAndFind

Ever notice how a lot of the criticism of republicans comes from republicans?

It’s as if they lay awake at night thinking “How can I help the democrats again?”

But democrats almost never criticize fellow democrats.

They remain focused on taking out the opposition, not each other.


34 posted on 04/23/2014 2:52:28 PM PDT by Iron Munro (They won't stop until every child has the exact same grade)
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To: Sacajaweau

Don’t forget the voting by provision. You show up at a voting precint and aren’t listed so you get a ‘provisional’ ballot that is ‘supposedly’ checked later.

I watched a group of folks do this at TWO voting places one night and I’m sure they went to more. I was just watching those two (I followed them to the second one).


35 posted on 04/23/2014 2:53:28 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conseravtives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If it’s a liberal site, quoting a conservative, you can bet it’s out of context to give a false impression of what he meant.

They want to use Paul’s comments to lead us to believe he is against investigating voter fraud.


36 posted on 04/23/2014 2:56:08 PM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I think Republicans are prohibited from filing suits that allege voter fraud.

I've heard there is some sort of agreemnt from past years, but I don't think it prohibits Republicans from discussing voter fraud and presenting the evidence to the public (if such an agreement exists). If any Repubican politician is even dicussing voter fraud very often, then I couldn't name him or her.

It's been folks like John Fund and other journalists who occasionally pop up with a vote fraud story that are about the only ones making the case to the public. Of course, many belive fraud exists including those who work to get voter ID laws passed. It's just not discussed openly very often.

37 posted on 04/23/2014 2:56:35 PM PDT by Will88
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To: SeekAndFind

Back peddling and trying to look all so ‘rational’ (read that as acceptable to the GOPelite)


38 posted on 04/23/2014 2:56:45 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Iron Munro

Here’s the reason — Democrats thinking are mostly HOMOGENEOUS.

You hardly find one person straying from their ideology.

Abortion, higher taxes, more government control... they ALMOST ALL think alike.

so, what is there to criticize?

Republicans are really more DIVERSE in thought when it comes to the issues.

Not all are pro-life, not all are for smaller government, not all are for lower or simplified taxes, etc.

Therefore, because of the diversity of thought on issues, it goes without saying that one Republican can and will criticize the other’s policies.


39 posted on 04/23/2014 2:57:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: Will88
Maybe. Here's the skinny from The Blaze. The Republicans are more afraid to because of the Race Card than anything else.
40 posted on 04/23/2014 3:00:13 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Rand Paul is well on his way to becoming John McCain’s replacement.

One NEVER hears Republicans talking about Democrats getting nailed time after time after for vote fraud and intimidation.

And here is this idiot saying Republicans are over-emphasizing it.


41 posted on 04/23/2014 3:01:27 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Cyber Liberty

And Obama and Holder have been throwing down the race card at every opportunity in recent comments on voter ID laws in various states.

And I think my point still stands that, unlike what Rand Paul seems to say, there are no Republican politicians working to present the vote fraud case to the public, certainly no overemphasis. Just a few journalists making the case occasionally.


42 posted on 04/23/2014 3:09:35 PM PDT by Will88
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To: SeekAndFind

and some people seem to have over-empahsized Rand Paul as an alternative to a Democratic president in 2017


43 posted on 04/23/2014 3:10:58 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Yep.


44 posted on 04/23/2014 3:12:00 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Will88
And I think my point still stands that, unlike what Rand Paul seems to say, there are no Republican politicians working to present the vote fraud case to the public, certainly no overemphasis. Just a few journalists making the case occasionally.

Yes indeed, your point still stands. I happen to agree with it.

45 posted on 04/23/2014 3:12:53 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: VeniVidiVici

indeed, how could they emphasize it LESS than they are now????


46 posted on 04/23/2014 3:14:15 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: SeekAndFind

Paulista being a Paulista.


47 posted on 04/23/2014 3:21:21 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks SeekAndFind. Ask him about abortion, or gay marriage, or in a couple of months, about gun control.
48 posted on 04/23/2014 3:21:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Iron Munro

I have noticed a lot of that going on.

What’s so unforgiveable about this comment? You can agree/disagree with his statement, but at the end of the day what is its impact? Nothing.


49 posted on 04/23/2014 3:22:51 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: SeekAndFind

WTF ?!?


50 posted on 04/23/2014 3:26:54 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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