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BLM-Bundy Confrontation Ignites new “Sagebrush Rebellion”
Townhall.com ^ | April 23, 2014 | Bob Barr

Posted on 04/23/2014 2:15:17 PM PDT by Kaslin

One of the biggest land grabs in American history occurred in 1976, when President Jimmy Carter signed into a law the “Federal Land Policy and Management Act.” That stroke of the pen transferred hundreds of millions of acres of land, located primarily in the western states, into the control of the federal government. In reaction, an alliance of ranchers, farmers, and other concerned citizens – the “Sagebrush Rebels” as they came to be known -- challenged the move and sought to return the land back into the hands of the states. Ronald Reagan, at the time running for president, supported the action of the states. “I happen to be one who cheers and supports the Sagebrush Rebellion,” the Gipper remarked in 1980; “count me in as a rebel.”

Today, the federal government controls nearly 640 million acres of public land (28 percent of the entire United States). In fact, nearly half of all western states (and 62 percent of Alaska) is “owned” by Uncle Sam and controlled by bureaucrats in Washington, D.C.; only four percent of other states fall under federal control. The feud over federal ownership and management of public lands in western states is nothing new. What is new, however, is the propensity of federal agencies to escalate confrontation with ranchers in those areas; most recently seen in the Obama Administration’s arrogant (and near violent) attack on Nevada rancher Clive Bundy. That single incident has reignited the “Sagebrush Rebellion” and pushed western states into action.

Last week, more than 50 political representatives from nine western states met in a legislative summit to begin to seriously discuss how to start the process of transferring federal public lands back to the custody of the states. “We have to start managing these lands,” Montana State Sen. Jennifer Fielder told the press during the summit. “It's the right thing to do for our people, for our environment, for our economy and for our freedoms.”

Holding the meeting in Utah was not coincidental, as the state is at the epicenter of western states’ calls for a return of public land back into their control. Two years ago, in March 2012, Utah Governor Gary Herbert signed H.B. 148, the “Transfer of Public lands Act and Related Study” (TPLA), which demands the federal government extinguish and transfer title to more than 20-million acres of land back to the state by the end of 2014 -- under threat of lawsuit.

While that legislation did not touch national parks, military installations, or national monuments, it did cover vast areas the federal government controls for no real reason other than to control it. Ken Salazar, then U.S. Secretary of the Interior, the bureaucracy that oversees the many federal agencies that manage public lands, said the law was “nothing more than a political stunt.” However, the Federalist Society’s legal review of H.B. 148 concluded that critics of the law should not dismiss it so quickly. “There are indeed serious legal questions to consider with the TPLA,” explains Chapman University Law Professor Donald J. Kochan. “At the very least, there are open legal questions involved in the TPLA that have never received definitive resolution in the courts,” he notes.

The legality of H.B. 148 will likely center on the federal government’s power “to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States . . .” found in Article IV, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. On the surface, the government’s near limitless power in this area makes Utah’s line in the sand tough to defend; but as Kochan notes, there is very little case law about the federal government’s duty to eventually do something with the land rather than just hold onto it, unused and ill-managed in perpetuity.

Moreover, as the Congressional Research Service reported last week, the Obama Administration’s poor “management” of America’s oil and natural resources on federal land illustrates that there is a strong argument that federal holdings of public land is doing great damage – rather than benefit -- to the country’s economic interests. According to the CRS report, for example, crude oil production on federal land fell by six percent since Obama took office in 2009; in the same time period, oil production on private land soared by 60 percent. Reports such as these, as well as the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) declaration of war on ranchers like Bundy, only buttress the case against continued federal control and management of its vast holdings.

The outcome of Utah’s “Sagebrush Rebellion” is unclear, but H.B. 148 is at least a solid blueprint for other states to follow to begin reclaiming public land taken by fiat from them decades ago. The intensified push from states for the return of federal land leaves the Obama Administration with few options. It can either peacefully return land back into the hands of the states before the issue is decided by the courts, or it can continue with its aggressive policing of federal lands that has already lead to near-violent confrontations between private citizens and federal agencies – some of which, such as BLM, seem clearly to be spoiling for a fight. U.S. Senator Harry Reid, who for some reason gratuitously injected himself into the BLM confrontation with Bundy and his supporters and referred to them as “domestic terrorists,” has made clear he stands firmly with the bureaucrats.

Hopefully, more rational minds in Washington will keep Big Government bullies like Reid out of the debate, and peacefully resolve this fundamental conflict over federal land management before it escalates further. This is a national debate too-long ignored.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: 2014issues; biggovernment; blm; bundy; bundyranch; federallaw; freedom; ranchers; rangewars; sagebrushrebellion

1 posted on 04/23/2014 2:15:17 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Just carrying forward the Lyndon Johnson philosophy,”They’re all my helicopters” to the country in general.


2 posted on 04/23/2014 2:18:01 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin
The US feral government should be forced to disgorge ALL "federal" lands.

The United States is a federation of STATES. The land belongs to the individual states. The US feral government should own ZERO land.

3 posted on 04/23/2014 2:19:48 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The best way to control opposition is to lead it ourselves." -- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin)
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To: Kaslin

Except that Carter didn’t assume the presidency until January 20, 1977.


4 posted on 04/23/2014 2:21:26 PM PDT by research99
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To: Kaslin
I'm so proud of these cowboys. The believe in the goodness of the land and in America.

It's the People's land...not the governments.

All Federal lands should revert to the states.

5 posted on 04/23/2014 2:22:08 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

Here is BLM’s version of the story:

http://www.blm.gov/flpma/organic.htm


6 posted on 04/23/2014 2:29:52 PM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin

I support the Sagebrush Rebellion, then and now. The federal government should not own any lands not directly pertaining to the restrictions placed on it by the Constitution. Take ‘em back!


7 posted on 04/23/2014 2:38:56 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of liberty only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: Kaslin

Sooner or later these liberal skeeves are going to stumble onto the issue that causes all hell to break loose.

And that is exactly what they are trying to do.


8 posted on 04/23/2014 2:48:40 PM PDT by Iron Munro (They won't stop until every child has the exact same grade)
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To: Kaslin

Wiki:

The Federal Land Policy and Management Act, or FLPMA (Pub.L. 94–579), is a United States federal law that governs the way in which the public lands administered by the Bureau of Land Management are managed. The law was enacted in 1976 by the 94th Congress and is found in the United States Code under Title 43. The Federal Land Policy and Management Act phased out homesteading in the United States by repealing the pre-existing Homestead Acts.


9 posted on 04/23/2014 2:53:48 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: research99

Good catch. Found this:

FLPMA was then
signed by the President on October 21,1976
http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/national/national_page.Par.59990.File.dat/rala_28_5_16-23_4_ecd.pdf

That would make President Ford the signer.


10 posted on 04/23/2014 2:54:48 PM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: research99

The Sagebrush Rebellion didn’t hit the papers & magazine covers ‘till spring of 1978.

About the same time as Howard Jarvis & his tax revolt.

Same year as the Bakke decision against quotas.

And in 1978 the `Equal Rights Amendment’ failed to achieve ratification & went down in flames.

Jimmah Carter still had more than two years left to screw this country up, & he did. But Ronald Reagan was ready & waiting in the wings. 1980 was sweet victory.


11 posted on 04/23/2014 2:55:37 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: lepton

Conference report agreed to in House: House agreed to conference report.
10/1/1976 Conference report agreed to in Senate: Senate agreed to conference report.
10/1/1976 Cleared for White House
10/12/1976 Measure presented to President.
10/21/1976 Signed by President.
10/21/1976 Public law 94-579.


12 posted on 04/23/2014 3:02:01 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: sauropod

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13 posted on 04/23/2014 3:02:50 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Kaslin

Use the same tactics against the criminal federal government that they use against us.

States can send in their state bureaucrats to close down BLM and Dept. of Interior buildings for failing to meet state health and building codes. Make these federal fascists camp out in tents. Then condemn those tents as unsafe and unfit for human habitation.


14 posted on 04/23/2014 3:03:38 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave; hoosiermama; LucyT; maggief

Sergeantdave,

Good idea!

All y’all, ping to this post!

Turn the tables on the feds....


15 posted on 04/23/2014 3:12:16 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The US feral government should own ZERO land.

I'm okay with the Constitution's guidance on military installations/dockyards, and D.C. itself. Other than that all National Parks, Forests, Monuments, Memorials, BLM land, watersheds/waterways, everything, should go to the states. The big issue is infrastructure (interstate highways and bridges) - not quite sure how to adjust for that. Maybe some type of agreement between states for funding, but keep the fed out of it.

16 posted on 04/23/2014 3:17:30 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: research99
True, might be confused with this H.R. 10587, the Public Rangelands Improvement Act of 1978 which was signed by President Carter and added shark teeth to the law signed by President Ford (Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976)...those added teeth are what added gas to the smoldering fire.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=30058

17 posted on 04/23/2014 3:18:07 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: lepton

> 10/21/1976 Signed by President.

So Gerald Ford signed this just a week or two before the election he lost to James Earl “Nucular” Carter.

Ford deserved to lose, but too bad we got stuck with such a pathetic specimen of sputum and pablum as Carter.


18 posted on 04/23/2014 3:56:37 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Kaslin

Thus proving this is Jimmuh Carter’s third term.


19 posted on 04/23/2014 4:39:10 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The United States is a federation of STATES. The land belongs to the individual states. The US feral government should own ZERO land.

Must be said over and over. The Federal Government has become too big and powerful. It is closer to communists countries in it's control of each and every American. Dictatorship is has no place in our Country.

20 posted on 04/23/2014 5:01:10 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Kaslin

bkmk


21 posted on 04/23/2014 5:13:23 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? ;-)
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To: Kaslin

As bad as the land grabs were, I’ve never seen federal agents with M-16s going after ranchers because cattle were eating grass.


22 posted on 04/23/2014 6:14:46 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Kaslin; All

Is the recent bloody Cattle Massacre at Nevada Cattle Rancher Bundy’s Pioneer Corral damaging the Democrat Party in eyes and words of the Democrat Left Stream Media?

To put this latest Medieval “Kill for Sport” event in historical context, all one has to do is remember that the Democrat Party was the Founding Party of the KKK.

Is the modern day equivalent of the KKK the Bureau of Feudal Land Management, (BFLM) ?

If so, then Feudal Lord Reid would then be “The Grand Dragon of the BFLM.”

Feudal Lord Reid’s Rustlers are hired guns, who are furious but not fast, which also applies to their bitter, vengeful, senile, multimillionaire Leader: Feudal Lord Reid.

With the past Democrat-based KKK, and now the present Democrat-controlled BFLM, ethics be damned, as abject fear is the main goal of both of these ethically Medieval Outlaw Gangs, past and present.

“Ethics” will be justified later by Liberals who will write the “revised” PC History of these times, past and present; of powerful men with outlaw hatred toward free people in America, Black or White, poor or rich.

The Jackboot Heel of Democat Tyranny is now upon us, AGAIN !

MOVE ON!
FORWARD!

_____________________________

Occupy Wall Street people were volunteer shock troops for The Democrat Federal Government of Obama, Pelosi, Holder and Schumer.

Reid’s Rustlers were hired shock troops for the Democrat Federal Government of Reid, Obama and Holder.

Occupy Wall Street people attacked businesses in large cities.

Reid’s Rustlers attacked cattle in an isolated Nevada Corral.

Both Occupy Wall Street and Reid’s Rustlers destroyed private property and private jobs.

Both Occupy Wall Street and Reid’s Rustlers were financially supported by the Democrat Obama Administration.

Both Occupy Wall Street and Reid’s Rustlers were publicly encouraged by the Democrat Obama Administration, and the Democrat Left Stream Media.

MOVE ON!
FORWARD!


23 posted on 04/23/2014 8:17:14 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Now we are getting to the heart of the matter. Fed land is the collateral on all the dollars the Fed is printing. Collateral without clear title is not an asset but a liability. Fedzilla HAS to secure these lands or the folks bankrolling the irresponsible behavior of Fedzilla will get anxious.


24 posted on 04/24/2014 12:15:22 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Kaslin
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
 that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
 that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--
 
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
 deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --
 
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
 it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
 laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form,
 as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
 
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes;
 and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable,
 than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
 
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design
 to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government,
 and to provide new Guards for their future security.--
 
Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies;
 and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.
 
The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations,
 all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.
 
To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

25 posted on 04/24/2014 4:31:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lepton

Done deal in 3 weeks??!!??


26 posted on 04/24/2014 4:32:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: WildHighlander57; sergeantdave

There IS more than one way to remove the hide from a feline!


27 posted on 04/24/2014 4:34:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Westbrook
Ford deserved to lose, but too bad we got stuck with such a pathetic specimen of sputum and pablum as Carter.

Give us Barabbas!


28 posted on 04/24/2014 4:35:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wastoute

“Follow the money” works again!


29 posted on 04/24/2014 4:37:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wastoute; hoosiermama; maggief; null and void; LucyT

Thanks wasteout, for the observation!

All y’all, ping to this observation by wasteout!

Are the “folks” to whom the fed owes money going to come and repossess that collateral?

And exactly who (or what) are those “folks”?


30 posted on 04/24/2014 5:30:09 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Elsie

The federal government was created by the sovereign states under a contract called the Constitution that strictly limited the power of the created entity.

Basically, if it doesn’t involve an interaction with a foreign entity or an UNRESOLVABLE conflict between states, then the fedgov has no authority.


31 posted on 04/24/2014 5:34:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

IMO, Salazar is a ‘political stunt’.


32 posted on 04/24/2014 8:56:22 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ronnyquest

The extensive land grab for ‘National Monuments & Parks is coming into a fiscal backlash.

There isn’t enough money NOW to take care of such parks & the Feds are looking to grab more.

Keep in mind that Federal land in New Mexico & Texas & Arizona is now posted to warn AMERICANS that it isn’t safe to be in there-—too many illegals who re illing to harm Americans.

Instead of grabbing more land which they cannot properly take care of, perhaps the BLM & NSF should concentrate their efforts on keeping American land cleared of illegals.

I also am pretty darn sure the Border Patrol could have used $3 million plus that was wasted at Bundy ranch for more enforcement of out BORDERS!!!


33 posted on 04/24/2014 9:00:58 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: MrB; Scoutmaster
It seems there is nothing new under the sun...
 
 
 
We again warn our people in America of the constantly increasing threat against our inspired Constitution and our free institutions set up under it.
The same political tenets and philosophies that have brought war and terror in other parts of the world are at work amongst us in America.
The proponents thereof are seeking to undermine our own form of government and to set up instead one of the forms of dictatorships now flourishing in other lands.
These revolutionists are using a technique that is as old as the human race—a fervid but false solicitude for the unfortunate over whom they thus gain mastery and then enslave them.
 
http://www.latterdayconservative.com/articles/war-first-presidency/
 
 
 

34 posted on 04/25/2014 1:00:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

After it had passed both houses and been reconciled, it was signed three weeks later.

Sorry for the confusion from clipping off the other dates prior to reconciliation.


35 posted on 04/27/2014 9:25:42 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Makes a lot more sense!

I couldn’t see how ANYTHING could go ANYwhere in our system at this speed!


36 posted on 04/27/2014 5:01:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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