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Photos Prove Putin a Liar
American Thinker ^ | April 23, 2014 | Rick Moran

Posted on 04/23/2014 2:21:18 PM PDT by lbryce

Video at the link

Vladimir Putin has insisted that there are no Russian troops in eastern Ukraine - just like he insisted there were no Russian troops in Crimea until he admitted it last week.

Now, the New York Times reports there are photos that clearly show known Russian military and intelligence people mixed in with pro-Russian militias, fomenting strife in Eastern Ukraine.

For two weeks, the mysteriously well-armed, professional gunmen known as “green men” have seized Ukrainian government sites in town after town, igniting a brush fire of separatist unrest across eastern Ukraine. Strenuous denials from the Kremlin have closely followed each accusation by Ukrainian officials that the world was witnessing a stealthy invasion by Russian forces.

Now, photographs and descriptions from eastern Ukraine endorsed by the Obama administration on Sunday suggest that many of the green men are indeed Russian military and intelligence forces — equipped in the same fashion as Russian special operations troops involved in annexing the Crimea region in February. Some of the men photographed in Ukraine have been identified in other photos clearly taken among Russian troops in other settings.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine
Like his US counterpart, no one here at Free Republic needs any substantiation as whether Putin or Obama are liars.
1 posted on 04/23/2014 2:21:18 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Putin is a Russian patriot.

Obama is not an American patriot.


2 posted on 04/23/2014 2:30:19 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: lbryce

“There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!”

“We have them surrounded in their tanks”

“They’re not even [within] 100 miles [of Baghdad]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion ... they are trying to sell to the others an illusion.”

“NO”, snapped Mr al-Sahaf, “We have retaken the airport. There are NO Americans there. I will take you there and show you. IN ONE HOUR!”

“It has been rumored that we have fired scud missiles into Kuwait. I am here now to tell you, we do not have any scud missiles and I don’t know why they were fired into Kuwait.”


3 posted on 04/23/2014 2:30:49 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: lbryce

True. Show me which head of state, state official, or agency at any level in any nation that tells the truth.


4 posted on 04/23/2014 2:31:00 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: fishtank
Putin is a Russian patriot.

So why are Russians safer in Ukraine than in Russia? Why does Putin have Russian journalists or other inconvenient sorts thrown from windows, beaten in subways, or shot in their driveways?

5 posted on 04/23/2014 2:32:46 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: lbryce

The Ukraine is all one big game of Liars Poker. Is anyone shocked or even surprised?


6 posted on 04/23/2014 2:34:23 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: wonkowasright

What is it with the Kremlin-Apologists and constantly going down the relativism route, ‘We’re just as evil as they are,” whenever their guy gets exposed for being a pathological liar and criminal?


7 posted on 04/23/2014 2:34:25 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: lbryce

America’s enemies are not in Moscow, they’re in Washington DC.


8 posted on 04/23/2014 2:35:51 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

*shrug* They could be in both places, couldn’t they?


9 posted on 04/23/2014 2:37:52 PM PDT by null and void (...if you are too sure of your place in heaven you might be too arrogant to actually get there.)
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To: fishtank

You are so uninformed. I will assume you are too young to have an understanding.

Putin is, was, and always will be KGB. He is a communist. If you don’t understand what that is and what it means you better start studying yesterday


10 posted on 04/23/2014 2:39:55 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: fishtank

Patriotism doesn’t have much to do with it. Putin runs Russia. He wants to go on doing so. He doesn’t want to lose any of his power, and he takes advantage of his opportunities.


11 posted on 04/23/2014 2:40:20 PM PDT by x
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Actually we are not as evil as they are. If you look at the social policy we are pushing on all the nations we get our tentacles into right now.... we are worse.

It didn’t used to be this way. I hope it won’t be that way again soon. But right now we aren’t a force for good.


12 posted on 04/23/2014 2:43:03 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: lbryce

Yeah, who believed him in the first place?


13 posted on 04/23/2014 2:47:04 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: wonkowasright

Little do you know that Russia has the highest abortion rate in Europe, and it is these same people in the Kremlin who, with the KGB, established many leftist organizations, or captured them (such as the ACLU, see Herbert Philbrick’s ‘I lived 3 lives’), to push Soviet subversion.


14 posted on 04/23/2014 2:47:56 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: wonkowasright

Obama is a communist. Putin is a communist and KGB. We can and should fight against Obama. And there is NO reason to support Putin


15 posted on 04/23/2014 2:48:01 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Who cares. Let’s worry about the Marxist who is in the process of destroying our constitution. Screw Russia. We have bigger problems here at home.


16 posted on 04/23/2014 2:50:04 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks lbryce.


17 posted on 04/23/2014 2:50:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Vaquero
Who cares. Let’s worry about the Marxist who is in the process of destroying our constitution. Screw Russia.

The irony!

18 posted on 04/23/2014 2:52:08 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: lbryce
Things that make you go "Hmmm!

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19 posted on 04/23/2014 2:54:59 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: lbryce

Putin is a liar and his poll numbers are most certainly soaring.

Not working so well for Obama...aye!


20 posted on 04/23/2014 2:55:37 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You clairvoyant now to eh ? Tell me oh swami of the republic what else do I know ?

Yes abortion was very high under marxism, yes its plummeting now, and yes in Russia abortion is being restricted. In the US its still being pushed on all nations receiving our aid.

You are a noble patriot. But you must realize that we have switched from being a force for good at least in the near term. We need to right our ship.


21 posted on 04/23/2014 2:57:53 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: null and void

If Washington DC was doing the right thing, so would Moscow.


22 posted on 04/23/2014 3:03:29 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: lbryce

Obama is the one hurting America and Americans - not Putin.

And in a Biggest and Most Frequent Liars Contest Obama would easily trounce Putin.

Heck - we don’t even know who Obama really is.

In fact, he has told so many lies about his own background that he probaly can’t remember who he really is.


23 posted on 04/23/2014 3:03:36 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: lbryce

more phony baloney propaganda. but of course no reportage of the US/EU provacateur operations in the Ukraine to oust the pro-Russian president and to push the Ukraine into the EU fold and away from Russia. Thing reminds me of Mad Magazine’s Spy v Spy except both wear black.


24 posted on 04/23/2014 3:07:26 PM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: fishtank

By your logic, Hitler was a German patriot.


25 posted on 04/23/2014 3:08:14 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: lbryce
Now, the New York Times reports there are photos

If the New York Times reports that the sky is blue and grass is green I would look out a window to see for myself. The New York Times is a Globalist Bankster propaganda rag.

Uncle Scam and its sodomite EU comrades are supply Christian slaughtering Al-Qaeda foreign mercenaries with high tech anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles to overthrow the legitimate government of Syria. It makes me question Uncle Scam's motivation for supporting firebomb throwing Neo-Nazis in their overthrow of legitimate government of Ukraine.

26 posted on 04/23/2014 3:10:40 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Girlene
By your logic, Hitler was a German patriot.

By that same logic so was George Washington.

27 posted on 04/23/2014 3:11:58 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: DTogo

I don’t know that Moscow would. The two are not tied together. When we did the right thing the Soviet Union didn’t.


28 posted on 04/23/2014 3:17:52 PM PDT by null and void (...if you are too sure of your place in heaven you might be too arrogant to actually get there.)
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To: fishtank

Yeah, every patriot I know games the system to remain in power indefinitely. Whew, have standards ever tanked for some people.


29 posted on 04/23/2014 3:19:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Could be because Putin is a liar and Obama is a liar.

Choose who lies the most.

Damn, that would be really hard.

Come on, you are kidding me, you have a communist as commander and chief, what are we to do? Are we to accuse Putin of being a communist?

Shame you seem to be worried more about Putin the communist than you are about Obama the communist.

The Russians never disavowed propaganda. Just a short time ago, your hero Barack Obama, got rid of the US vow to not engage in propaganda. You bought it hook, line, and sinker, sucker.


30 posted on 04/23/2014 3:28:34 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
Uncle Scam and its sodomite EU comrades are supply Christian slaughtering Al-Qaeda foreign mercenaries with high tech anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles to overthrow the legitimate government of Syria. It makes me question Uncle Scam's motivation for supporting firebomb throwing Neo-Nazis in their overthrow of legitimate government of Ukraine.

But not whether Putin is a liar, apparently.

31 posted on 04/23/2014 3:34:07 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Girlene; fishtank

“By your logic, Hitler was a German patriot.”

I was going to post the exact same thing!

Putin is a viscious thug and an enemy of the United States.

Disturbing how some here “get a tingle up their leg” thinking that Putin is some stud. I find that disturbing.
Obama being weak doesn’t = Putin being a good guy.


32 posted on 04/23/2014 3:39:40 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: lbryce

`Photos prove Putin a Liar’
Like his birth certificate proves he’s a US citizen?

“no one here at Free Republic needs any substantiation as to whether Putin or Obama are liars”

I do.
By logical obversion, if one is lying about something (troops or not): “They are there,” then the one making the contrary statement must be telling the truth, “They are not there.”

The substantiation: “Now, photographs and descriptions from eastern Ukraine endorsed by the Obama administration ... “

Sorry but Barry’s endorsement (on anything) doesn’t cut it for me.
He was supplying our enemies, al Quaeda, with arms in Syria then it blew up in his face and then he and his henchman Hillary Clinton and John Brennan lied about it, and they have lied about it every day since, enlisting any of their dupes and minions to swear to it, just as Clinton marched his cabinet out to the cameras to smear “that woman”.

I have more experience with Obama and his posse as liars than Pootie Poot & his gay commissars.
So yeah, there’s a presumption that Obama is lying that doesn’t necessarily apply to Putin.


33 posted on 04/23/2014 3:42:47 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: lbryce
The Ukrainians are no angels either. Just Google Ukraine Nazis.
34 posted on 04/23/2014 3:44:52 PM PDT by McGruff (Cinton had Kosovo, Obama has Ukraine.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Obama being weak doesn’t = Putin being a good guy.

Exactly.
35 posted on 04/23/2014 3:45:20 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: McGruff
Contention: Putin is a liar.
Response: Ukrainians are Nazis.

You Russians crack me up.

36 posted on 04/23/2014 3:45:58 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: lbryce

Oh, sorry but BBC said photos are lie.

“Do they prove anything?
What comes across from the photos is that at least one unit of heavily armed, well-equipped, pro-Russian paramilitaries has been operating in the Donetsk region.

But it cannot be said for sure that they are actual Russian special forces, as the Ukrainians argue. At the same time, the idea that they might be a local militia from Donetsk is belied by their apparent military professionalism.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said last week there were “no Russian units, special services or instructors in the east of Ukraine” but such denials of military involvement ring hollow for many after Russia’s covert actions in Crimea, especially after he subsequently admitted troops had operated there.

Without using photos, Gen Philip Breedlove, Nato’s commander in Europe, argued convincingly last week that they must be “Russian forces”.

That said, theoretically, the paramilitaries in the photos could be ex-servicemen from Russia or elsewhere. Military veterans of the Soviet war in Afghanistan have been active on both the nationalist side in Ukraine and in patriotic groups in Russia.”

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27104904


37 posted on 04/23/2014 4:28:00 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: McGruff
The Ukrainians are no angels either. Just Google Ukraine Nazis.

I did.

Link

Most Ukrainians despise Nazis.

38 posted on 04/23/2014 4:43:54 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: lbryce

“Why don’t you two liars shake hands?” —Ed, The Honeymooners


39 posted on 04/23/2014 5:26:43 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: fishtank

Putin is a Russian patriot.


No patriot would ever rob their country of billions in stolen wealth. Putin is a tin pot czar and nothing more.


40 posted on 04/23/2014 5:33:14 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: dforest
Shame you seem to be worried more about Putin the communist than you are about Obama the communist.

What's with the Kremlin apologists and constantly trying to distract from their guy? I can certainly consider Putin a KGB man and communist and Obama as a commie, without having any mental problems where the two positions seem to be contradictory. I think it's you guys who have lost your grounding in right or wrong that are more obsessed with this stuff than I am.

Just a short time ago, your hero Barack Obama,

Please don't spam me anymore with your stupid posts. Thanks

41 posted on 04/23/2014 5:58:03 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Nifster
понял ?
43 posted on 04/24/2014 8:04:43 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank
понял bac
44 posted on 04/24/2014 8:57:06 AM PDT by Nifster
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