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Denton(TX) ISD Makes Dramatic Grading Changes
CBS11DFW ^ | 4/23/14 | Jason Allen

Posted on 04/23/2014 2:21:49 PM PDT by DallasBiff

DENTON (CBSDFW.COM) - The Denton Independent School District is throwing traditional grading methods right out the window, shifting to a new way of assessing their students. The change is going to happen for kids from 6th to 12th grade beginning next year. Teachers will still be handing out letter grades, but the means of calculating those scores will be different than just about any other school district in North Texas.

Hand in your homework late? You won’t get a zero.

Want a higher grade on a test? Just take it again. Grades will no longer be reduced for failure to meet deadlines. Zeroes will not be used for missing work. Students will be able to retake all exams and use the higher score. The idea is to hand out grades that show what the kids actually know, not how well they behave. “We are not dismissing the value of those behaviors,” stated Vicki Christenson, director of secondary curriculum.

“We’re simply separating them out and saying grades have to be all about learning, and not about behaviors that we value. We have to find another way to help kids build those behaviors.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
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"The dog ate my homework", becomes an official excuse in Denton, TX.

I believe this is in Michael Burgesse's district, (US Rep. R-TX)

1 posted on 04/23/2014 2:21:49 PM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

And how will this prepare the kids for real world jobs?

Is Denton expecting to only produce government workers?


2 posted on 04/23/2014 2:23:28 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: DallasBiff

Will they get a trophy for just showing up?


3 posted on 04/23/2014 2:23:30 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: DallasBiff

And when the students start “earning” better grades because the standards have been abandoned, the teachers will say “see how good a job we are doing?”


4 posted on 04/23/2014 2:23:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The best way to control opposition is to lead it ourselves." -- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin)
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To: DallasBiff

When an employee tells their boss, “Do you want it done right, or do you want it on time.”

The boss’s usual reply is, “I want it done right AND on time, and if you can’t manage that, let me know and I’ll replace you with someone that can.”


5 posted on 04/23/2014 2:27:12 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Don Corleone
Will they get a trophy for just showing up?

Following the Woody Allen Book of Education, that'll get them an 80% score.

6 posted on 04/23/2014 2:27:51 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: DallasBiff

Setting kids up for failure. Agenda 21 at it again. Stop the freakin’ madness!


7 posted on 04/23/2014 2:30:39 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of liberty only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: DallasBiff; All

Typical baffle gab from the ‘teaching’ community. What they are saying is we are too lazy to keep children back, we don’t want to deal with parents, and really we want the children to teach themselves. NOW GIVES US MORE MONEY!!!!!


8 posted on 04/23/2014 2:33:51 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: DallasBiff

Teachers will get tired of testing twice and will grade easier. Btw they can’t take the state assessment tests twice, which is what the teachers are teaching most of the time.

I


9 posted on 04/23/2014 2:36:29 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: DallasBiff

According to a caller to the Chris Crock show, McKinney ISD is already doing this.


10 posted on 04/23/2014 2:39:18 PM PDT by mylife
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To: DallasBiff

It’s just a matter of time before Texas goes blue.


11 posted on 04/23/2014 2:40:18 PM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Exxxxxacty!


12 posted on 04/23/2014 2:44:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: DallasBiff

This will not play well in Denton. Expect the school board to be looking for new jobs soon.


13 posted on 04/23/2014 2:44:30 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: DallasBiff

They won’t stop until they manage to drag all students down to the lowest common denominator.


14 posted on 04/23/2014 2:45:11 PM PDT by Iron Munro (They won't stop until every child has the exact same grade)
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To: DallasBiff

On the bright side, it should be quite easy for certain students to gain a top-notch positions by getting home school or private educations away from this “normal stupication” model. Break free from the crowd and the sky’s the limit, since the majority will be drones!


15 posted on 04/23/2014 3:07:27 PM PDT by SgtHooper (I lost my tag!)
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To: DallasBiff
the little darlings will all make great looterRATS...
16 posted on 04/23/2014 3:11:38 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: DallasBiff

Evil Progressive agents have infiltrated the schools across the US via the teaching colleges. Doesn’t matter how conservative the community is. All teachers are now trained to be mental health shills and to forward the socialist nihilist agenda.


17 posted on 04/23/2014 3:13:47 PM PDT by Seruzawa (Get ready, little lady. Hell is coming to breakfast.)
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To: thackney

This is already spilling over into the real world in the attitudes of adult employees. Received a letter in the mail stating facts that were so wrong. Called the sending organization and lady said it would be taken care of. Two weeks later got a second letter in the mail on the same issue - only this time it was sent certified. Called again. She said that she thought it was taken care of and when I asked why another letter went out, she responded, “Well, we’re only human, we can’t be expected to check everything before it goes out”.

Almost every encounter with any organization on behalf of my business clients any more ends up with having to have something reprocessed. Getting mighty tiresome. Most everything we send out is checked by two people before it goes anywhere. If there is an error, it is immediately redone and rechecked. Matter of pride.


18 posted on 04/23/2014 3:14:43 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Chode

Our future leaders. God help America.


19 posted on 04/23/2014 3:22:32 PM PDT by FES0844
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To: thackney; DallasBiff

20 posted on 04/23/2014 3:22:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: FES0844; Grams A; DallasBiff; Chode

Millennials in the Workplace Training Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz0o9clVQu8


21 posted on 04/23/2014 3:24:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: DallasBiff

“We’re simply separating them out and saying grades have to be all about learning, and not about behaviors that we value. We have to find another way to help kids build those behaviors.”

If something actually gets kids to learn and choose correct behaviors, I’m for it. Time will tell.


22 posted on 04/23/2014 3:25:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: DallasBiff

Just imagine what it would be like to hire one of their graduates.


23 posted on 04/23/2014 3:25:24 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: DallasBiff

This is ridiculous


24 posted on 04/23/2014 3:26:50 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: DallasBiff
.. not how well they behave

Marvelous

25 posted on 04/23/2014 3:28:50 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: DallasBiff

Members of the Denton Independent School District Board should be charged with child abuse.


26 posted on 04/23/2014 3:32:25 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
pretty much... and the lame response video is proof
27 posted on 04/23/2014 3:40:25 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: DallasBiff

Do they even give out any grades below a B anymore?


28 posted on 04/23/2014 3:44:00 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Chode

There are 120,000. People in Denton, less than 5000 vote in the mayor/council/school district elections. No organized group to oppose these people.


29 posted on 04/23/2014 3:44:40 PM PDT by rstrahan
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To: DallasBiff
Want a higher grade on a test? Just take it again. Grades will no longer be reduced for failure to meet deadlines. Zeroes will not be used for missing work. Students will be able to retake all exams and use the higher score.

What's their motive for doing this in Texas?

Has to be a motive...

30 posted on 04/23/2014 3:50:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DallasBiff

If, in the end, the students are better prepared, what difference does it make?


31 posted on 04/23/2014 3:51:28 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Crazy Cracker Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: DallasBiff

This is a great improvement. Pls note, it said that turning in homework late would not mean a 0, it would probably mean a lesser grade than if it were turned in on time. In the real world, even if you are chronically late, if you get all of your work done, and have time to help others, you will not get fired. You just may get promoted and more responsibility that will fill a full workday or your pay may be docked for the missing time.

This isn’t a feel-good endeavor, it is one geared to more accurately assess the acquisition of knowledge, which is the schools’ job, not behavioral modification, which is what they focus on now. Internationally our academic scores have been plummeting since the establishment of the USDOE.

This school district is reasserting its local control and has decided to use common sense to assess education. Good for them!

When students know that their academic success is the goal, not obedience and subservience, they will probably find that students behave better too and even feel encouraged to work hard.

One time in high school, I had already figured out my grade was a B+ even if I didn’t do any more work. So, on the next test, I handed it in blank. My teacher returned it with a “D” instead of an “E”. I promptly asked her why. She said she didn’t want to fail me. It worked, I did the work and turned it in so that I deserved the D. . .and no, even though it was A quality work, she left the D intact.

That is called knowing your students and using judgment. That is what this ISD is talking about.


32 posted on 04/23/2014 3:55:00 PM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: DallasBiff
In a related note, purchasing officials in the Denton ISD will now accept late bids, incomplete bids and allow unlimited "do-overs" until the desired vendor wins.

“We’re simply separating them out and saying grades have to be all about learning, and not about behaviors that we value. We have to find another way to help kids build those behaviors.”

Whatever happened to letting the family instill "behaviors that we value"?

/"old fashioned values"

33 posted on 04/23/2014 4:03:56 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Sergio

Unless the work is routine, and the boss has objective performance standards available, s/he is just bullying or dreaming, or some combination.

A smart boss knows the “project management triangle” — “cheap, fast, good — chose two”.


34 posted on 04/23/2014 4:10:56 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: DallasBiff

Those kids that actually graduate HS and get accepted into a college are in for a rude awakening.

Well, assuming they can handle the application process in the first place, which I doubt.

Is this another selling point for Common Core or just your average lib destruction of our children’s futures?


35 posted on 04/23/2014 4:13:10 PM PDT by SusaninOhio
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In the real world, even if you are chronically late,.... you will not get fired.

So being late for deadlines and critical due dates are no big deal and not one which would cause termination?

What world do you live in?

Are you employed by government?

36 posted on 04/23/2014 4:14:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rstrahan
figures
37 posted on 04/23/2014 4:14:53 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: DainBramage

My kids private school has done this. I think it’s good! The kids get lots more homework than I did as a kid. I rarely had homework.

It’s been a struggle for my kids to do homework every night, especially when they get sick.

I also like the idea of retaking tests. I’d rather a kid learn the material and be prepared for finals.

I think the only tests they can’t retake are the semester finals.


38 posted on 04/23/2014 4:22:02 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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Want a higher grade on a test? Just take it again... Students will be able to retake all exams and use the higher score.

This sounds like training for a future election vote counter.

-PJ

39 posted on 04/23/2014 4:22:12 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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My kids can do this, but they never have. It’s really good for kids who get sick or who are involved in after school activities.

My kids do theater, and the theater kids grades always slip during shows. At least if the kids bomb a test the day after opening night, they can retake it.


40 posted on 04/23/2014 4:37:54 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: DallasBiff

Why even make them come to school at all?


41 posted on 04/23/2014 5:12:29 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good one!


42 posted on 04/23/2014 5:19:05 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: DallasBiff

Congressional district is irrelevant. Schools are not accountable to the feds, but to the state, under local control. Burgess has no say.


43 posted on 04/23/2014 6:34:02 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: dragnet2

Motive? Probably because they want the kids to learn the material, and sometimes you have to “try, try again.”


44 posted on 04/23/2014 6:35:16 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah
""Want a higher grade on a test? Just take it again. Grades will no longer be reduced for failure to meet deadlines. Zeroes will not be used for missing work. Students will be able to retake all exams and use the higher score.""

What's their motive?

Probably because they want the kids to learn the material

So there ya have it!

45 posted on 04/23/2014 7:40:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rstrahan
There are 120,000. People in Denton, less than 5000 vote in the mayor/council/school district elections. No organized group to oppose these people.

Doesn't help any at all that it's a two college town either.

46 posted on 04/23/2014 7:40:46 PM PDT by zeugma (Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened - Dr. Seuss (I'll see you again someday Hope))
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To: thackney

I’ve always thought that Denton is a conservative area. I have family and friends there...all conservative including the young adults.


47 posted on 04/23/2014 7:46:49 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: luckystarmom

This seems like a lot more work for the teachers—not less.


48 posted on 04/23/2014 8:02:38 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: DallasBiff

Evil Progressive agents have infiltrated the schools across the US via the teaching colleges. Doesn’t matter how conservative the community is. All teachers are now trained to be mental health shills and to forward the socialist nihilist agenda. The school psychologist is only there to see that no one escapes the reservation. Act up and you get drugged. Unless the kid is a bully. Then he is simply an apprentice school psychologist.


49 posted on 04/23/2014 8:03:29 PM PDT by Seruzawa (Get ready, little lady. Hell is coming to breakfast.)
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To: gspurlock

When students know that their academic success is the goal, not obedience and subservience, they will probably find that students behave better too and even feel encouraged to work hard.
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Unlike so many others that have commented on this thread, I’m in full agreement with your entire posting. ...The Denton ISD is trying to focus on what the students have learned, rather than on whether the students obey ridiculous rules.

My public schooling years were mostly in the ‘50s. I was suspended for a couple of days numerous times from the 8th through the 12th grade because I broke school rules. The grades I received were only based on my homework and tests; not my behavior. .....That is exactly what this ISD is doing through their changes.


50 posted on 04/23/2014 10:45:40 PM PDT by octex
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