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Rand Paul: “Not Changing Any Laws on Abortion,” Life at Conception a “Personal” Belief
http://www.lifenews.com ^ | April 23, 2014 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 04/23/2014 5:41:16 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

Rand Paul is a pro-life Senator from Kentucky who appears poised to become one of the candidates for the Republican nomination for president in 2016. Although he has a strong pro-life voting record, Paul is making comments about abortion that are concerning pro-lifers.

randpaul3As LifeNews reported earlier this year, Paul said in an interview that Republicans should agree to disagree on social issues.

Now, in a new interview, Paul says he doesn’t anticipate changing the laws on abortion and added that his belief that life begins at conception is a personal and religious one, not a scientific viewpoint.

(Excerpt) Read more at lifenews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: abortion; civilrights; deathpanels; humanrights; moralabsolutes; prolife; randpaul; waronchildren
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Rand Paul is a moron. Typical libertarian that is now saying there is no scientific evidence that life begins a conception. Has he been under a rock for the last 20 years. No, he's just your typical libertarian that would rather not talk about abortion or marriage. He thinks he can appeal to liberals who will vote for him. What a joke. He should challenge Hillary Clinton for the democrat nomination.
1 posted on 04/23/2014 5:41:16 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
Abortion is one of my deal-breakers. It (with other stuff) kept me from voting for Romney.

/johnny

2 posted on 04/23/2014 5:43:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: NKP_Vet

This is beyond moronic. He should be embarrassed.

“belief that life begins at conception is a personal and religious one, not a scientific viewpoint.”

What?! Not only is this a SCIENTIFIC FACT, but the fact that it is 100% HUMAN LIFE is a SCIENTIFIC FACT.

Abortion is murder. May nations be judged by how they treat their most vulnerable.


3 posted on 04/23/2014 5:44:27 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: NKP_Vet

“...his belief that life begins at conception is a personal and religious one, not a scientific viewpoint.”

Actually, that’s not a “view” but scientific fact.


4 posted on 04/23/2014 5:44:33 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: NKP_Vet

Paul sure gives up easy on everything, at least everything that conservatives would have predicted a libertarian republican would be giving up on.

Rand is calling on the GOP to “evolve” on these issues.


5 posted on 04/23/2014 5:46:42 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: NKP_Vet

Paulistas are another family not fit for the Presidency.


6 posted on 04/23/2014 5:46:52 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: JRandomFreeper
The country has finally reached a point where pro-life is becoming the majority. There were the fewest abortions last year in American since 1973. There is still a lot of work before abortion is once again illegal as it should be, but we can and will get there.

So of course, the Republicans decide that now is a good time to hop off the pro-life wagon.

7 posted on 04/23/2014 5:47:08 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: NKP_Vet

WHAT! Of course life beings at conception - what else is it going on in there - IT’S LIFE!

I can’t imagine he really believes what he just said.


8 posted on 04/23/2014 5:47:31 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Yep. He just lost my vote. His dad is a doctor. He knows damn well life begins at conception.


9 posted on 04/23/2014 5:48:20 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: VRWC For Truth

and yet, by the time 2028 rolls around, there will have been one in every pres primary process for like 6 straight cycles.


10 posted on 04/23/2014 5:49:17 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: NKP_Vet

He is simply a liar, make that a damn liar.


11 posted on 04/23/2014 5:50:49 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: NKP_Vet
Know who is your enemy.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


My Country is not.

12 posted on 04/23/2014 5:51:43 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: NKP_Vet

the Constitutionalist does not believe in the right to life


13 posted on 04/23/2014 5:52:07 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: SoFloFreeper

Isn’t he a doctor also?


14 posted on 04/23/2014 5:52:28 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: NKP_Vet

so any law based on personal beliefs - they aren’t going to ever try to change them to match that personal beliefs?

rand, ALL laws are based on someone’s beliefs. the question is, who’s beliefs re the laws going to reflect, yours or your enemies?

rand just said heisn’t going to fight for his or your beliefs being reflected in our laws. he may as well resign now and let someone who understands what laws are about, to govern for the people.

rand you just sowed everyone the fool you really are.


15 posted on 04/23/2014 5:53:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Good gawd this guy is a fraud. He’s also alienating a good portion of Libertarians who are pro life.


16 posted on 04/23/2014 5:56:49 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: yarddog

Rand Paul is a figment of my imagination.

I WISH


17 posted on 04/23/2014 5:57:39 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: NKP_Vet

Paul was a total idiot answering that question like he did. So freaking Romney wishy washy. Paul wants it both ways on too many topics. People want to know what you believe and they want to believe you mean it. How freaking hard is it to just say what you mean.

Life begins at conception.

See....easy.

Paul’s answer on this issue is just one of many reasons I couldn’t vote for him. But wow...he’s not going to make it to the first primary at this rate. AND so far, the state of Kentucky is going to make him decide which ballot he wants to be on.


18 posted on 04/23/2014 5:58:26 PM PDT by conservaKate (R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
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To: NKP_Vet

That’s hilarious.

This guy passed Biology 101 and got into medical school?

How?

You’d flunk if you said something idiotic like this on a test.

I know. I was a biology major in January of 1973, and I understood when Roe was announced that they were saying it was OK to kill a person....by just calling them another name, a scientific one: “fetus”.

Which doesn’t mean you aren’t biologically alive, just in a certain phase of growth.

Life begins at conception. What the court said was that the legal term “personhood” could be defined as being much later.

And that’s what we’re all against.


19 posted on 04/23/2014 5:59:29 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
he country has finally reached a point where pro-life is becoming the majority. There were the fewest abortions last year in American since 1973.

The decrease in the number of abortions is likely more the result of an increased availability of birth control than it is a change in public opinion on the issue. Poll after polls show that while a majority of Americans to be supportive of restrictions on abortion, this same majority is opposed to a total ban.

20 posted on 04/23/2014 6:01:17 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: NKP_Vet

Such talent.....he managed to alienate the entire evangelical vote with one statement in a stupid attempt to appeal to people who would never vote for him.

Nice job idiot.


21 posted on 04/23/2014 6:01:31 PM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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To: NKP_Vet

When you stop a beating, human heart, THAT’S MURDER. I don’t give a damn what “da living and breathing constitution” whispers to the dumbass “judges” in their goofyass “courts”.


22 posted on 04/23/2014 6:04:01 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: SoFloFreeper; Aria

Life doesn’t begin at conception.

Life began thousands or billions of years ago, depending on your beliefs.

The egg and sperm cells that participate in the conception are both alive prior to the conception, and the fertilized egg is likewise alive after the conception.


23 posted on 04/23/2014 6:04:36 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: NKP_Vet

He is trying to get elected and doing REAL WELL!!He be coming.
Stand with Rand.


24 posted on 04/23/2014 6:06:08 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: NKP_Vet

Rand Paul is trying to position himself as a centrist as he sees Jeb Bush as his #1 rival for the 2016 nomination, imho.


25 posted on 04/23/2014 6:09:24 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: DuncanWaring

Well if you look at it that way i agree - but each new life beings at conception.


26 posted on 04/23/2014 6:10:06 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: NKP_Vet

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27 posted on 04/23/2014 6:10:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: NKP_Vet

I threw Rand Paul in the trash some time ago. He is no more a conservative than his father, Ron Paul.

No principles, no morals, no truths that he won’t throw under the bus if it suits his political convenience. Not the kind of guy you want to vote into office, because once he’s in, he’ll do what he damned well likes.

And he won the CPAC vote just like his dad did—by busing in gangs of pot-smoking libertarians to vote for him. Most likely the same guys who showed up every year to vote for Ron.


28 posted on 04/23/2014 6:11:21 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Regulator

He needs to read the Scott Peterson verdict. Convicted of two counts of 1st Degree Murder for murdering his wife and his unborn child that the wife was carrying. Rand Paul, with that statement, killed any chance of being a legitimate contender for the republican nomination. He’ll either run as a libertarian or on the Green Party ticket.


29 posted on 04/23/2014 6:11:28 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: Kenny500c

trying to position himself

the first mistake

the next mistake

the last mistake


30 posted on 04/23/2014 6:15:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: NKP_Vet

maybe it’s above his pay grade??


31 posted on 04/23/2014 6:16:25 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: NKP_Vet

So... Rand Paul is a pro-abort. One more reason why he becomes absolutely unacceptable as a presidential candidate.


32 posted on 04/23/2014 6:16:53 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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Sorry, buddy....you can not claim to be pro-life and at the same time claim it should not be an issue.
You and your other libertarian cohorts are the reason I still register as republican.
If you can’t stand for life 100% and strong defense.....wither and die.


33 posted on 04/23/2014 6:17:13 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: Cicero

To paraphrase a comment by, I believe, Michael Ledeen,

Rand Paul is first, most, and primarily a Libertarian. He only talks conservative when it coincides with libertarianism.


34 posted on 04/23/2014 6:17:42 PM PDT by digger48
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To: SADMILLIE

Oddly enough, I think he might win without us (I can’t support him) and then power through a personhood amendment because he owes it to God. The Lord moves in mysterious ways.


35 posted on 04/23/2014 6:21:09 PM PDT by Theophilus (.)
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To: NKP_Vet
Rand Paul is a moron. Typical libertarian that is now saying there is no scientific evidence that life begins a conception.

Interesting that you didn't even watch the interview and accepted the author's paraphrase (lack of quotes means it is not a quote) of what he said. He actually said that, "my personal and religious view is that life begins at conception." He never used the word science, or suggested that this is not also a scientific view, the author simply made that up out of whole cloth, assuming that if something is a personal and religious view it cannot also be a scientific view.

36 posted on 04/23/2014 6:23:00 PM PDT by LambSlave
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To: Theophilus

Well, God is real busy with 7.3 billion people living and 1.3 billion in heaven so we may have to fend for ourselves and vote for a winner.If we are wrong and it is a sin,God fogave us from our sins on the Cross.


37 posted on 04/23/2014 6:26:09 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: digger48

Rand Paul is for ONLY SMALLER CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT
which AT THIS TIME is FINE with ME!!! I DESPISE abortion!!!! I WANT
MY DAMNED FREEDOM BACK I WANT OUR REPUBLIC BACK!!!
When I start to SEE SMALLER GOVERNMENT I will scream from the rooftops regarding abortion, minds are slowing changing about this issue
each and every day!!!!! I WANT this RIDICULOUS war on women issue
put to rest I WANT TO WIN OUR REPUBLIC BACK!!!!!


38 posted on 04/23/2014 6:27:21 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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Here is an actual quote from Rand Paul, from his own website; show me any other candidate who has put his money where his mouth is and introduced such a bill.

"I am 100% pro-life. I believe life begins at conception and that abortion takes the life of an innocent human being. It is the duty of our government to protect this life as a right guaranteed under the Constitution. For this reason, I introduced S. 583, the Life at Conception Act on March 14, 2013. This bill would extend the Constitutional protection of life to the unborn from the time of conception. It is unconscionable that government would facilitate the taking of innocent life. I have stated many times that I will always support legislation that would end abortion or lead us in the direction of ending abortion. There are many ways we can work toward this ultimate goal and items we can hope to accomplish in the near term. I strongly oppose any federal funding of abortion and will attempt to stop the flow of tax dollars to groups who perform or advocate for abortion.

39 posted on 04/23/2014 6:28:41 PM PDT by LambSlave
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40 posted on 04/23/2014 6:29:55 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: NKP_Vet

He is scrambling.

Had this conversation with the ambivalent today:

When did we find out Jesus was with us?

At the Annunciation, when God placed him here.

Who is the creator of life?

Same - God

God let us know at least in that case, life begins at that point.

So, abortion kills a person.

When people say women get to have control over their bodies, they leave out that they have control over chastity.

And they still don’t get to kill babies conceived through violent acts.

Therefore:

When people say that life doesn’t begin when God tells us it begins, and natural law and common sense tells us this, as well, for whatever stupid reason they have, that’s just freedom of speech.

It doesn’t make the truth different.

Life begins at conception, whether people say it doesn’t, whether they believe it doesn’t or whether they don’t want it to be true or not.

Any politician or celeb or anyone else, who, like Obama, Mooch, Mary Tyler Moore, Preachers, Romney, or Paul or any dopey high school student who states that life begins when we want it to, denies the truth and it will never change it.

Abortion is murder.

Birth control is the cause of confusion, abortion is an effect.

The truth is simple. It does not have to be easy in fact people HAte the truth.

But it is simple

And Rand Paul, as I always say, is wacko.


41 posted on 04/23/2014 6:30:08 PM PDT by stanne
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To: DoughtyOne

Strange Paul and Bush are moving to the center when primary voters prefer conservatives.


42 posted on 04/23/2014 6:31:47 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: Kenny500c

Who do you think they’re listening to? The same Bevis that cost us two elections and counting...


43 posted on 04/23/2014 6:33:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: Theophilus

Not that mysterious in regards to Paul.


44 posted on 04/23/2014 6:33:34 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Aria

And, at that instant in time, it’s immediately human - it can never under any circumstances be a dog or a peony or a goldfish - nothing but a human.


45 posted on 04/23/2014 6:35:16 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kenny500c

He couldn’t even get Bush better numbers against Gore and Kerry... GACK!


46 posted on 04/23/2014 6:35:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

No, it’s always been so, more or less.

We don’t have mob rule in the Constitution.

Majority should never rule, truth, natural law, and the founding documents are the rule. When they are not, this is what we have.

there are many credible arguments that Roe v wade is unconstitutional.

It was a privacy issue, negating the fact that fetus’ are human, same as slavery, and it will end the same, our progeny horrified that we allowed the murder of 53 million and who knows how many by the time we’re done, and how many have been killed by abortifacients. CDC has it at around 200 million.

That’s what majority rule gets you, in the world of liberal media who would have us believe it’s a majority, and who pushes the sentiment.

Humans have their own DNA at conception.

Mob rule cannot change the truth.


47 posted on 04/23/2014 6:35:20 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Kit cat

I understand where you are coming from. I sympathize. Unfortunately that ship has sailed. Our Republic won’t be coming back. At least not in its current configuration. Our constitutional form of government makes certain assumptions about the people it governs. When those assumptions are no longer valid then the Constitution has no meaning.

So in the final analysis it doesn’t matter what Rand Paul thinks or does. The rubric of the Constitution is no longer suited to address the issue. The same goes for Mark Levin and his Liberty amendments/convention of the states movement.


48 posted on 04/23/2014 6:35:44 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: NKP_Vet

Cruz/Carson ‘16


49 posted on 04/23/2014 6:42:46 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Viennacon
Looks like the good doctor P-A-U-L skipped the lecture on life and biology.....

Approaching a deal-breaker for me....

50 posted on 04/23/2014 6:44:29 PM PDT by ptsal (Repubicans swallowing more kool-aide from Rove & Kristol)
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