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Rand Paul: Bundy’s racist remarks are ‘offensive’
Washington Times ^ | April 24, 2014 | Seth McLaughlin

Posted on 04/24/2014 8:44:26 AM PDT by maggief

Sen. Rand Paul distanced himself Thursday from Cliven Bundy’s recent remarks on race, roughly a week after the likely 2016 presidential contender knocked the way the federal government has handled the land dispute with the defiant rancher.

“Cliven Bundy’s remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him,” Mr. Paul, Kentucky Republican, said via Twitter.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: adamnagourney; blm; bundy; bundyracist; bundyranch; clivenbundy; harryreid; jumpedtheshark; kentucky; liesnyt; nevada; nyt; randpaul; randpaultruthfile; ronpaultruthfile
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1 posted on 04/24/2014 8:44:26 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

https://twitter.com/SenRandPaul

Senator Rand Paul @SenRandPaul 1h
Cliven Bundy’s remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him. READ: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/rand-paul-dean-heller-cliven-bundy-105982.html#.U1kXNVhutWk.twitter


2 posted on 04/24/2014 8:45:58 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief
Now Bundy REALLY deserves to have his cattle stolen.

What a bunch of poppy-cock. I bet Bundy is also a right wing conspirator, probably a freemason, might even have kiddy porn hid away in the barn.

If plan A doesn't work...move on to Plan B. Trash the hell outta the man.

3 posted on 04/24/2014 8:47:30 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: maggief

Since it was obviously out of context, no one should be handing out an opinion.


4 posted on 04/24/2014 8:47:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: servantboy777

Remember the plumber!!


5 posted on 04/24/2014 8:48:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: maggief

Rand Paul is nor our friend, if he gets sidetracked so easily by a NYT hit piece.


6 posted on 04/24/2014 8:49:04 AM PDT by grania
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To: maggief
The 'media' is leaving off some of Bundy's words.

The original statement was as follows:

"Cliven Bundy Wonders If Blacks Are 'Better Off As Slaves' Than On Gov't Assistance"

7 posted on 04/24/2014 8:49:32 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: maggief

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3148094/posts?page=161#161

I don’t like it, but there it is.

To be clear on my posting of that vid link, I’m just clarifying that the quote is factual.

Disappointed, I am. Out of context or not, this will be viral in hours.


8 posted on 04/24/2014 8:49:43 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: maggief

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/10/joe-the-plumber-democrats-have-a-history-of-lynching-black-americans-2741428.html


9 posted on 04/24/2014 8:50:01 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: maggief
So, if someone supposedly makes racist comments, he suddenly has no rights?

Bundy's personal views on race or pancakes or anything else have NOTHING to do with this issue.

10 posted on 04/24/2014 8:50:14 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Sacajaweau

Joe...what’s his name?


11 posted on 04/24/2014 8:50:33 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

Politics of personal destruction.


12 posted on 04/24/2014 8:50:54 AM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: Sacajaweau

The plumber does not even have a Nevada plumber’s license. Gasp!


13 posted on 04/24/2014 8:51:22 AM PDT by Zuse
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To: maggief
What good is a conservative press if they parrot dhimmi talking points?

Answer..

Not much good at all.

Oh and Rand Paul demonstrates why he's not all that.

14 posted on 04/24/2014 8:52:14 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: maggief

Great. The list of reasons I will never vote for Rand Paul is growing.


15 posted on 04/24/2014 8:52:50 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: maggief
Here is what Bundy said:

“And because they [blacks] were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he said, according to The Times. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Bundy may have wrongly tarred all blacks with the same brush, he is alsolutely correct regarding those who have accepted the role of perpetual child living off the Nanny State. His point about their actual freedom is valid, but never addressed for fear of being labelled a rascist.

16 posted on 04/24/2014 8:54:03 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: maggief

If the comments are real Bundy is doing himself no favors, however I have never understood some people’s affinity for Paul. He is not a conservative.


17 posted on 04/24/2014 8:54:47 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: maggief

Play the tape, or it didn’t happen.


18 posted on 04/24/2014 8:55:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: maggief

The new Emmanuel Goldstein.


19 posted on 04/24/2014 8:56:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator; logi_cal869

See post #8


20 posted on 04/24/2014 8:56:33 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Former Proud Canadian
"...he suddenly has no rights?"

One should have nothing to do with the other - it doesn't matter if he dislikes eskimos for cryin' out loud - none of that is relevant to what the Feds are trying to do to him.

21 posted on 04/24/2014 8:57:19 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: maggief

America... where free thought and free expression are dead.


22 posted on 04/24/2014 8:57:39 AM PDT by BRL
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To: maggief

Because saying something ‘racist’ is the worst possible crime one can commit in America today.


23 posted on 04/24/2014 8:58:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: UCANSEE2

You really think that would make a difference? Here’s rule number one for Republicans. Never say the word “rape” and never say the word “slave” in reference to blacks. Never. They are both toxic. Stay away.

Now, Mr. Bundy isn’t a politician. But when he says something similar, no politician with half a brain is going to get anywhere near him.


24 posted on 04/24/2014 8:58:24 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: logi_cal869
I just heard some snarky liberal talk show host yammering about this not 20 minutes ago. They will try to use his antiquated views on race as a way to discredit his stand vs the government. Typical liberal demagoguery.
25 posted on 04/24/2014 8:58:34 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: UCANSEE2
Clearly, ALL folks, black AND white (which constitute a majority of welfare "constituents") are better off on government ASSistance. As slaves, THEY'D HAVE TO ACTUALLY WORK.

On ASSistance (as taking it in the...), they can lie around and produce MORE welfare constituents for the demonrats.

If this process is not halted, THEY and WE will ultimately BECOME SLAVES to the elitist pigs who created this system.

A story to illustrate the point. It's been around before but it's always good to review.

It seems that an area in Arkansas was plagued by a particularly aggressive and voracious roving band of wild hogs for many years and, although the local residents were thoroughly disgusted over the destroyed crops, injured domestic livestock, etc., their attempts to destroy or capture the hogs had met with complete failure.

One day a stranger stopped at the local hardware store, purchased some tools and grain, asked how to get to the last reported location of the porcine marauders and boasted that he would capture them and claim the large bounty the locals had offered. Those who heard his boast laughed as he went out the door and boarded his wagon.

Two weeks later, the stranger arrived back in town with the entire herd trussed and squealing in the back of his wagon. Amazed and incredulous, the townspeople asked how he'd done it. He told this story:

"I located a clearing near where I was told the hogs might be and set out a large pile of grain. At the same time, I began erecting a fence just beyond the edge of the clearing.

"The hogs discovered the grain on the third day. At first, they sniffed around the edge of the clearing, nervously darting into the woods at the slightest sign or sound of danger. Then the younger, less experienced ones became bolder to the point of approaching the edge of the pile, grabbing a few kernels and dashing into the trees.

"After several hours of this, the young hogs began feeding in earnest -- no longer darting away with those few kernels. Seeing this, the older hogs soon began shoving the young ones aside in what became a veritable feeding frenzy. The grain was soon gone.

"They returned the next day at daybreak to a fresh, larger pile of grain. They displayed little fear as they walked right up to it. They returned the next day, and the next, and the day after that, all the while growing bolder and showing less and less fear. By the 10th day, they had completely stopped foraging in the surrounding fields.

"All the while, I was building the fence -- a corral, really -- during the times when they were absent. Soon, however, I was able to work even while they were feeding.

"Yesterday morning, while they fed, I closed the gate. They didn't even try to escape.

"I've been capturing critters this way for years and it always works. Why? Well I learned a long, long time ago that there isn't a creature on the face of the earth I cannot capture -- ONCE I HAVE IT DEPENDENT ON ME FOR ITS SUPPORT OR SURVIVAL!

26 posted on 04/24/2014 8:59:08 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: maggief

He’s keeping PC alive.


27 posted on 04/24/2014 9:00:34 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: maggief

Political correctness is offensive.


28 posted on 04/24/2014 9:01:13 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: maggief

Bundy lost a lot of supporters when he stepped in the race quagmire. His words were “ill chosen” to say the least.


29 posted on 04/24/2014 9:01:16 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: maggief

To Rand Paul,

Here is what Bundy said:

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Can you explain to me why that is racist Senator?

Can you with a straight face tell us that Clive Bundy WANTS blacks to be slaves a they were before the civil war?


30 posted on 04/24/2014 9:02:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: maggief
Paul Ryan basically said the same thing about "Inner City" cultures!!

So now he has to go grovel before the Congressional Black Caucus.

31 posted on 04/24/2014 9:02:58 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Former Proud Canadian
So, if someone supposedly makes racist comments, he suddenly has no rights?

It all depends. Back in 1984 Jesse Jackson made a hugely offensive antisemitic remark: "That's all Hymie wants to talk about is Israel. Every time you go to Hymietown that's all they want to talk about."

That didn't seem to affect Jackson down at all.

32 posted on 04/24/2014 9:03:03 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

So how is living on the demorat plantation with food stamps, section 8 housing, WIC, SNAP, EIC, Obamacare, Obamaphones, affirmative action, or any of the other 77 welfare programs different than slavery when the recipient has no freedom other than to vote for the “Man” to keep living on the plantation?


33 posted on 04/24/2014 9:03:38 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: maggief

“In front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

Sorry, everyone can just get all bent out of shape...his statement is essentially correct.

They don’t want to do anything because the gov’mnt is taking care of them.
He is slightly incorrect on the kids. They are sent to school.........where they do nothing except disrupt class.

Is he wrong on the abortion statement?
Is he wrong about the men going to prison?

Truth is ugly, but it isn’t racism.


34 posted on 04/24/2014 9:03:58 AM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: SeekAndFind
“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Here is what they heard....

"Blah blah blah blah 'Negro' blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 'slaves, picking cotton'"

35 posted on 04/24/2014 9:04:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: UCANSEE2

How many babies were aborted under slavery?


36 posted on 04/24/2014 9:04:41 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: A'elian' nation

The income tax made every man a slave, my friend. Everything else is just a different degree of slavery.


37 posted on 04/24/2014 9:05:34 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: maggief

anyone remember the kids toys from the 80s called “Tiny Mighty Mo’? The commercial had an earworm lik]ttle jingle that said “Just one push and off they go”. That’s Rand. There he goes off adopting the liberal buzzword ‘offensive’ and using it to score political points.

The only time conservatives talk about ‘being offended’ is when they mock liberals. Does anyone here run around telling people how ‘offended’ they are?

When people use the language of the left, you can safely bet they are familiar with it because they are OF the left. Leftists ponder whether things are ‘offensive’. Non leftists wonder whether or not things are based in truth. Perhaps he needs to either learn to hide his true beliefs better. Or better yet, be open about what he really is.


38 posted on 04/24/2014 9:05:37 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: grania

Rand Paul was never “our friend” every policy and goofy opinion he has spouted recently is the same fare as always for him.

There are people on this forum who either wanted to believe he was conservative and a patriot, or wanted others to believe that. That requires folks to forget his history and ignore his continuing actions.

He is as he always was and the turd didn’t fall too far from the bull.


39 posted on 04/24/2014 9:06:14 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: maggief

I agree with Bundy’s position on the BLM and detest the ridiculous and unnecessary overreach of the feds. But he’s also been his own worst enemy in some ways, and this is one of them. Mr. Bundy should get clear on what is important, and clam up about everything else. Sure he’s entitled to his opinion but when you’re the symbol of a greater struggle you will pay the price for shooting off your mouth on unrelated matters.


40 posted on 04/24/2014 9:06:23 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: maggief

Everyone needs to be clear on roles. Bundy is a victim and NOT a sppkesman. What he thinks about any subject is irrelevant and the left will exploit this to put us on the defense.


41 posted on 04/24/2014 9:06:53 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: maggief

Another knee jerk retreat from a guy who appears more and more like an entrenched politician with no core beliefs.

The left is out to destroy Bundy and they will trench up everything they can to do it.

Did Bundy even say what he is supposed to have said? The NYT says they “overheard it”. Then the MSM ran with it. Now cowards like Rand Paul are jumping all over themselves to distance themselves from Bundy and his supporters and the cause they represent.

Cowards. All of them.


42 posted on 04/24/2014 9:08:57 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: maggief

How do we know this guy actually said any of this?


43 posted on 04/24/2014 9:09:07 AM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

If they stopped supporting him because of these misquoted words, then they were looking for a reason to stop. What a bunk! The govt stole cattle and land and people stop supporting him because he said something not politically correct about blacks???? You are either not telling the truth or you know a bunch of two faced hacks.

and besides, nothing he said is untrue, it’s just not PC.


44 posted on 04/24/2014 9:09:18 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (God is not dead!)
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To: maggief
Unless Bundy’s conversation was recorded, I don't see how the reporter was able to remember every word he said and put them in the correct context. Maybe the reporter was filling in the blanks.
45 posted on 04/24/2014 9:09:27 AM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: maggief

Bundy’s remarks were not racist.

He was calling out the poverty pimping that has kept too many “on the plantation.”

Rand Paul went cheap on this; shame on him.
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46 posted on 04/24/2014 9:09:29 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: plain talk

This is not about supporting Bundy.
It is about opposing government overreach.


47 posted on 04/24/2014 9:10:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: maggief

This man needs to hire a public relations advisor.


48 posted on 04/24/2014 9:10:54 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Sacajaweau

That is what I am wondering. The 35 blacks shooting each other in Chicago two weeks ago, 46 this past weekend. What was he asked if, he even said it since it is the NYT.


49 posted on 04/24/2014 9:10:56 AM PDT by edcoil (Not a single republican was ever a slave owner. They were all democrats.)
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To: maggief

Where is the recording? Where is the witnesses? Where is there anything other then a NYT FAKE hit piece playing the race card to smear a good a good American.

They failed with the “war-on-women” card to smear him, now its a fake up story to push the race card. Even if it were true, which there is evidence its not, the race card is dead.


50 posted on 04/24/2014 9:12:12 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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