Skip to comments.Bundy Responds To NYT, Defends "Slavery" Comments
Posted on 04/24/2014 10:44:44 AM PDT by absentee
[embeddable youtube of audio is at the link]
"That's exactly what I said. I said I'm wondering if they're better off under government subsidy, and their young women are having the abortions and their young men are in jail, and their older women and their children are standing, sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do, you know, I'm wondering: Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves, and they was able to have their family structure together, and the chickens and garden, and the people had something to do? And so, in my mind I'm wondering, are they better off being slaves, in that sense, or better off being slaves to the United States government, in the sense of the subsidies. I'm wondering. That's what. And the statement was right. I am wondering."
(Excerpt) Read more at therightscoop.com ...
I give the guy a lot of credit. He stands for something. I even understanding the idea behind his thought.
Unfortunately, this will distract from the issue he is standing for.
If it is just what is excerpted above we have all wondered that. To extend into some kind of justification of slavery would be a problem, IMHO.
No one is better off as a slave. He’s focusing on the welfare group, not the black achievers - and there are many - including some I work with and admire.
I wish he’d stick to the land issue where he is on way better footing.
Make it a good day, all! :’)
Rand Paul: Bundys racist remarks are offensive
There is video of Bundy saying what was reported by the Times. Bundy wanted exposure ... and got what he wanted ... probably not the outcome he was hoping for.
Whatever merits Bundy thought he had are now lost (IMO) to the distraction over his own comments.
Good for him!
Unfortunately I think his understanding of how most slaves were treated is wrong, but I don’t think he has any bad intentions. Of course, not many will forgive him for that.
It’s the NYT. Before the month is out, the all-out smear campaign will have him painted as a racist, homophobe who spends his evenings goose stepping to German march music while dressed in an SS uniform, and the Bundy ranch will be referred to from now on as the Bundy “compound.”
for years the left has been whining for a discussion about race, adn now that it arrives, they condemn it.
I understand it, too. Poorly communicated, but not without merit.
Something like "It's a shame that blacks fought so long and hard to get out of slavery. And now the government has gotten blacks and whites enslaved in poverty, violence and welfare...and worse their policies have broken up families and lives."
He’s entitled to his opinion and I agree with much of what he’s said, but he’s now a public figure and public figures need to learn the First Rule of Holes.
The MSM will whip this up so Reid’s comments on American patriots being “domestic terrorist” can go away.
“I wish hed stick to the land issue where he is on way better footing.”
Yeah, never fails. When conservations get a roll going on some issue, somebody sticks one foot in their mouth and the other one up their @$$.
These days you could send someone to a park and video him signing people up for slavery.
Bundy just invalidated everything he has done in the eyes of the Sheeple with this.
WELL HARRY REID SAID SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s not racist, but it will never be understood by the media and the race hustlers. And the politicians will side with the race hustlers because they get all the air time and all the talking heads.
So, Mr Bundy, a bit of advice. And this is for every conservative. Never give your thoughts on race, never write your thoughts on race, never EXPRESS your thoughts on race in any way, shape, or form.
They “can and WILL be used AGAINST you.”
How to you know how most slaves were treated?
But since he used the word “Negro”, the truth of his statement will be lost in the rage over saying black in Spanish...
That is the point. Bundy just doesn't get it, and too many FRiends here are supporting slavery.
Maybe this is what Reid meant by saying something would happen to Bundy....
a “hi-tech lynching” to borrow a phrase...
I wondered how long it would take the Rats to pull out the “Race Card”.
Not long. Not long at all.
None of this has any bearing on what we all witnessed last week where an out of control, militarized federal government brought their storm troopers to protect a freaking turtle and steal an old mans cows.
Those were my exact thoughts. This statement is off target based on what is at stake in this central issue. He should have stayed on point. The MSM will have a field day and Bundy will lose his audience.
Even the Glen Beck's, Rand Paul's of the world are tripping all over their poor lil politically correct hearts to rail on this guy.
Is it really to show the world...hey, look at me. I'm not a bigot, nope, not me.
not exactly what the NYT homosexual reported.
IOW a slave here or a slave there is still a slave.
IOOW for those from NYC slavery is bad.
He’s standing by what he said.
He should stand by it and say it again — pounding his fist on the table and ridiculing the other side for being dumb enough to believe that he was defending slavery rather than pointing out that the welfare system is keeping blacks in servitude. No more slinking away due to failure to b e politically correct in speech.
Why should anyone care what Bundy thinks is best for the happiness and well being of black people?
Isn't the dependence so many US citizens have on the government providing for them a form of slavery? It isn't just blacks who are suffering from a government that gives people everythning they need....except the opportunity for self-sufficiency.
It's the new slavery.
If I chose to live on a plantation, trading my time working in the field for a home and food, that is my choice. Slaves had no choice. They could not leave. Their children could not leave. That is the antithesis of the American dream.
The Tea Party and all “like” freedom causes will be cast into that net.
Starting to wish he never spoke. Grrrrrr
This reminds me of the two candidates we had last cycle that ended up torpedoing their own campaigns - wasn’t there one in Missouri and another one - (something about you can’t get pregnant with rape?) Opposition research is out there recording their every word and sure enough two Republicans stepped in it.
I wish it doesn’t affect all of us but it does.
We are slaves. Look at everything you think is yours and don’t pay the tax or fee on it and see how fast YOUR STUFF is removed from you.
Ah, but they’re enslaving TWO classes of people now.
The recipients are slaves of dependency,
and the providers are slaves to the guns of gov’t, forcing them to provide or else.
. . . when they were slaves, and they was able to have their family structure together, and the chickens and garden, and the people had something to do . . .
That is, to put it mildly, a rosy depiction of life as a slave. Tough to defend.
No - government dependance is a choice, slavery is not. Dr Ben Carson is an example of someone who made the choice against dependance, a choice he wouldn’t have been able to make if he were a slave.
Yea, this has to be a record for them. Astonishing how fast. Wonder who the next groups will be.
socialism = serfdom
Yes, well, Bundy is not a politician.
I have been reading hundreds of posts on numerous threads here on FR that I will say they sound like a collective sigh of relief that there is now a reason not to support Bundy in his fight for states rights. I have never realized there are so many sunshine patriots on this forum. A truly sickening and disheartening bunch.
To those of you who have not tossed your principles and character into the gutter, I am proud to stand beside you.
I agree. Another "Squirrel!" moment from our Media and Government Royals. The issue is an intrusive and overbearing Federal Government. I don't really care about Mr. Bundy's views on history and sociology.
A rule only Republicans have to follow apparently. He should unashamedly espouse his views because all the crazed progressives never hold back.
You are one smart cookie!
He's entitled to his opinion, and his comments have nothing to do with the land issue... even if the left wants them to somehow be relevant.
And I absolutely agree with him. I’ve articulated the same thing for about a decade.
The great thing about this is that a real public dialogue on this subject just got started! And we now have the internet, facebook, etc. where people can talk about it, and talk they will.
The rational side will win this. I’m actually pretty excited about it.
That's exactly right. And, worse, their children (or parents, or spouses, or siblings, etc.) could be--and often were--sold and the family forcibly separated. To praise the "family structure" that existed under slavery is ignorant at best.