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Parent to Obama: Let me tell you about the Common Core test Malia and Sasha donít have to take
Washington Post ^ | April 23 | Valerie Strauss

Posted on 04/24/2014 3:55:52 PM PDT by Nachum

I get a lot of e-mail from parents and teachers who wonder if President Obama, whose children go to the private Sidwell Friends School, knows what is actually going on with all of the standardized testing in public schools. Here’s an open letter to Obama explaining what he is missing, written by Rebecca Steinitz, a literacy consultant in urban high schools, a writer and an editor. She was previously director of the High School Program at Lesley University’s School of Education and an English professor at Ohio Wesleyan University, where she ran the Freshman Writing Program. Steinitz is also a parent, as you will see when you read this post of hers, which also appeared on Huffington Post.

Dear President Obama,

We have something very important in common: daughters in the seventh grade. Since your family walked onto the national stage in 2007, I’ve had a feeling that our younger daughters have a lot in common, too. Like my daughter Eva, Sasha appears to be a funny, smart, loving girl, who has no problem speaking her mind, showing her feelings, or tormenting her older sister.

There is, however, one important difference between them: Sasha attends private school, while Eva goes to public school. Don’t get me wrong, I fully support your decision to send Malia and Sasha to private school, where it is easier to keep them safe and sheltered. I would have done the same. But because she is in private school, Sasha does not have to take Washington’s standardized test, the D.C. CAS, which means you don’t get a parent’s-eye view of the annual high-stakes tests taken by most of America’s children.

I have been watching Eva take the Massachusetts MCAS since third grade. To tell you the truth, it hasn’t been a

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Parent to Obama: Let me tell you about the Common Core test Malia and Sasha don’t have to take but Eva does
1 posted on 04/24/2014 3:55:52 PM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 04/24/2014 3:56:25 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

It’s not important to Hussein’s puppeteers that he knows what is actually going on.

In fact, they probably prefer that he remain clueless — and just sticks to following their scripts.


3 posted on 04/24/2014 3:57:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Nachum

www.commoncoremovie.com

www.hslda.org

Homeschooling is the answer.


4 posted on 04/24/2014 4:05:29 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Nachum
Sample Common Core math problem. Confusing, unnecesary steps and utterly stupid. I'm convinced it's designed to make math morons out of American children.


5 posted on 04/24/2014 4:07:48 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta

I actually prefer this method. And yes, I scored nicely on the various aptitude tests through GRE and GMAT.


6 posted on 04/24/2014 4:10:16 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: Lizavetta

This reminds me of the “new math” from the sixties. The new math did much harm to so many students.


7 posted on 04/24/2014 4:11:57 PM PDT by Rollee (The louder he proclaimed his honor, the faster we counted the silverware.)
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To: Nachum
skoool??? we don need no skool... we be gangstas and stuff...

8 posted on 04/24/2014 4:15:38 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Lizavetta

I tend to do math problems in my head. I had this one solved by the time I read the words “by breaking.” It went like this: 7 plus 7 is 14, minus one is 13, carry the 1, 2 plus 1 plus 1 is 4, the answer is 43.

On columns of numbers, I’ll add up the digits that add to 10 or 20, then add up whatever is left over. I have never broken numbers down to get numbers that will add to 10, that seems like unnecessary complication.


9 posted on 04/24/2014 4:16:27 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Lizavetta

I hate math and totally suck at it. As such, I have my own quirky methods when it comes to numbers. In this example, I would add 20 to 26, then minus 3, which equals 43. Voila, and in 2 simple steps I’m done. CC requires unnecessary and confusing steps that would boggle most minds.


10 posted on 04/24/2014 4:17:05 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: Lizavetta
casue that's SO much easier than saying 26+10=36 and 36+7=43... now i get it
11 posted on 04/24/2014 4:21:27 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Prince of Space

See, I added 4 to the 26 first and then subtracted 4 in the end.

I think my way is faster.


12 posted on 04/24/2014 4:22:40 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Lizavetta

One might point out that “breaking” 17 into 10 and 7, “makes a ten”, which can be added to 26 to get 36, which is 30 + 6. That still leaves us with 7+6, but is 7+6 = 13 really any harder than “thinking” 13+4 = 17 ? One has to subtract 4 from 17 leaving 13 ... and where were we?

I agree this is very poor pedagogy.


13 posted on 04/24/2014 4:25:32 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Nachum
Obama's response:


14 posted on 04/24/2014 4:25:35 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Nachum

The ruling class always exempts themselves.


15 posted on 04/24/2014 4:26:13 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: Prince of Space

I’m old. I added the right-hand column, got 13, mentally *wrote* down 3 then carried the one to the left hand column, added the left hand column and got 4, resulting in the answer of 43 in about a half second.

Yesterday we had a meeting with a forester. He is about 40 and has, obviously, a college degree. The arithmetical problem concerned $8.00 per acre and 40 acres. He struggled. I said “8x4 is 32”. He looked at me, impressed, and said :”I can’t do math in my head.” I said, “It wasn’t *math*, it was the times tables. You are too young to have memorized them.” He looked at me blankly. He did not know there were times tables that people used to memorize. I, BTW, am NOT good at math.


16 posted on 04/24/2014 4:29:28 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Nachum

I have a Master’s Degree in Business with a Bachelor’s in English, had straight A’s all through high school and college. I also read this mother’s entire letter. She is being way too kind to BO IMO. With all my years of education plus 40 plus years of actual experience there is no way I could answer any of these questions.

I also showed the article to my son and DIL, both have Master’s degrees and are teachers in the private school system. Both just scratched their heads and expressed concern about what and how the students are being taught as part of Common Core.

I am appalled at the questions and not sure if the students answered them correctly - whatever that means - what ability this would exhibit.

My grandson is also a seventh grade student but does attend a private church based school. Questions on the exam he recently completed bore no resemblance to those on this exam.

If this material is an example of what our kids are learning in today’s schools, they couldn’t get a job even if one were available.


17 posted on 04/24/2014 4:29:29 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: logic101.net

“...ruling class...”? I’d call them “criminal class”.


18 posted on 04/24/2014 4:29:30 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Nachum

Follow the money...


19 posted on 04/24/2014 4:29:59 PM PDT by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: Rollee

The new math was set theory and group theory, in the form of “clock arithmetic”. At least this is what I got in 9th grade as groundwork for algebra. It was real math, at least, and did teach the basics of Abstract Algebra.

Since then there has been “fuzzy math” and the “new new math.”


20 posted on 04/24/2014 4:32:50 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: raybbr

He’s so presidential.


21 posted on 04/24/2014 4:33:28 PM PDT by FES0844
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To: SoFloFreeper

Homeschooling is the answer until they base the college entrance exams on common core...

SAT is being rewritten with the common core goals in mind right now.


22 posted on 04/24/2014 4:38:12 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Lizavetta

SHEESH...how convoluted....I added 7+6, got 13, took the 1 and added it to 2+1, put them together and got 43. 3 steps in my head.


23 posted on 04/24/2014 4:39:35 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Lizavetta

Donno. I would just add 26 + 10 = 36. Then add the remaining 7. Gets you to 43.


24 posted on 04/24/2014 4:39:59 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: Lizavetta

Would have been easier to borrow 3 from the first operand adding it to the second giving 23 + 20.

Common core is pathetic.


25 posted on 04/24/2014 4:45:27 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Nachum

There are but two ways to end common core.

1. End the Federal Department of Education and prohibit the federal govt from being involved in any way in education.

2. Secede.

That’s it folks, if you think there is another way, well good like proving it and getting it done.


26 posted on 04/24/2014 4:48:07 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: Grams A

My Daughter is an English Principal of an all-girls high school. She is not too pleased with Common Core.


27 posted on 04/24/2014 4:51:15 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Black Agnes

Then you go to a college like Hillsdale. Or Liberty. Or Reformation Bible. Or Bob Jones. Or Evangel. Or Oral Roberts. Or Patrick Henry.

We have an abundance of educational choices that do not rely necessarily upon the perversions of education of the leftists in academe.


28 posted on 04/24/2014 4:54:22 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: dr_lew

Numbers are abstract.

It’s as if the CC math is an attempt to help certain students that had difficulty adding Apples to apples.

Something in our education system was lost a long time ago if this is what they think they need to do to teach math.


29 posted on 04/24/2014 4:54:49 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Lizavetta

WTF???

N owonder I can’t get the right change anymore...yeah, even from a digital cash register....


30 posted on 04/24/2014 5:31:33 PM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: Zeneta
See, I added 4 to the 26 first and then subtracted 4 in the end. I think my way is faster.

That's interesting. I just added 26 + 17 and got 43, and it wasn't because the farmer in Iowa had to get his piggies to the capitalistic market by Thursday or his healthcare premiums would double...or something like that.
31 posted on 04/24/2014 5:47:47 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Delta Dawn

OK, So I was just joking.

You and I do this math in our head because we understand that numbers are abstract.

It’s as if CC math is trying to make them concrete.

Either because they think the teachers are stupid or they think their students are stupid.

Maybe both ?


32 posted on 04/24/2014 5:53:40 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

How many of those have engineering programs? Just asking.


33 posted on 04/24/2014 5:58:55 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: raybbr

The guy is a low class punk. Even as he sits in the Oval Office, he’s nothing more than a low class punk.


34 posted on 04/24/2014 6:02:23 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Zeneta

My first grade teacher was responsible for allowing me the gift of math in my life.

I must have been having problems understanding the concept of addition and subtraction because I remember one day when the classroom was empty she had me stop by her desk. In her hand she had 9 popsicle sticks. She then took two popsicles out of the stack and put them in her drawer. How many popsicles sticks did she now hold in her hands?

I wasn’t too sure on how many popsicle sticks were now in here hands, but I was darn sure that I didn’t want anyone taking any popsicles away from me. After that math was easy.


35 posted on 04/24/2014 6:06:16 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Chode
skoool??? we don need no skool... we be gangstas and stuff...

"We be doin'gangsta zhit, y'all"

36 posted on 04/24/2014 6:13:14 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Delta Dawn

I see the introduction of CC as an admission that the entire complex that is Public Education has failed.

I also think they see this as the most effective way out of the mess they have created.

Common Core won’t fly in the wealthy suburbs. The kids are too smart and the parents will fight back.

The reason the kids are smarter is because their parents are substantially more engaged in every aspect of their kids lives.

It’s the difference between teaching to encourage learning or teaching to the lowest common denominator.

I’ve had experience teaching adults and had to constantly deal with classrooms in which half the class was saying slow down while the other half was saying speed up.

I had many discussions with other Instructors about “who” should I teach too. My contention was to teach to the top of the class. There were business reasons for this. While many of my counter-parts thought it best to teach to the bottom. I never wanted to lose half my class by dumbing down the content and always found a way to engage everybody.

I was never “taught” how to teach. I fell into this role and have been told that I’m a “Natural Teacher”.

When a student doesn’t “get” something, you need to get creative. You can see it in their body language. A good teacher sees this and can stop and begin to rephrase the concept in a way that will make sense to the student.

What I see is a tremendous amount of indifference from both the students and the teachers in mostly urban schools.

There have been reports over the years of our Military having to deal with teaching new recruits some of the most basic skills that would make your head spin.

I may be wrong here but I think that CC is trying to “Institutionalize” or “Structure” teaching as a system. This may come from our experience in our Military but has been adopted to, and been destroyed by bureaucrats within the system.


37 posted on 04/24/2014 7:03:00 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: lightman
100%
38 posted on 04/24/2014 7:10:34 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Zeneta
Numbers are abstract.

I guess you could say so. I have to admit that I do not understand p-adic numbers ( Chapter 6 of NUMBERS, above. )

39 posted on 04/24/2014 8:01:25 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew; Zeneta
BTW, Frege is a hoot. Very readable.


40 posted on 04/24/2014 9:43:40 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

Heh, good essay question for seventh graders ...

Defend KANT’s position vis a vis Frege. Give examples.


41 posted on 04/24/2014 9:52:37 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Black Agnes

Yeah, I know. That is a problem.

Found a discussion on the ‘net about religious universities that have engineering degrees here:

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/christian-colleges/767967-engineering-program.html


42 posted on 04/25/2014 12:36:27 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: reformedliberal

OMG, are you saying that kids today in school are not being taught the times tables?


43 posted on 04/25/2014 1:08:13 AM PDT by itssme
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To: raybbr
My response to obozo’s “middle finger” response.....stick that finger up your own azz, bozo, or call Reggie!
44 posted on 04/25/2014 1:09:53 AM PDT by itssme
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To: uncitizen
obozo thinks he's slick...so witty, so “in your face” and whatcha gonna do about it...I'm KING! Remember this come pay back time with this ahole.
45 posted on 04/25/2014 1:14:36 AM PDT by itssme
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To: reformedliberal

My kids didn’t even have to learn addition tables in grade school. In fact, it is against the law. (Yes - the teachers are not allowed to teach math facts.)

HOWEVER, they and the principal did turn a blind eye as my wife and another gal would go in every day and teach two classes their “math facts” out in the hallway for many years (four??). Adding. Then subtraction. Then multiply, and then dividing.

I’m not sure if other parents took over after my kids had left grade school.

Even with the goofy common-core math you would be hard-pressed to do it without the basic math facts.


46 posted on 04/25/2014 1:36:29 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: itssme

See my post 46. The teachers aren’t even allowed to teach the addition tables!


47 posted on 04/25/2014 1:37:36 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve
God help those poor kids. Parents, get off your rear ends and storm the schools and demand they return to common sense and the methods of teaching that produced positive results. Get up there and FIGHT for the rights of your children! Until the communist/socialist/marxist regime is destroyed in this country, take your kids out of these schools and home school them, or a group of parents can hire a teacher to home school their children,or send them to private/parochial schools who do NOT TEACH crappie core. It is up to you parents to SAVE YOUR CHILDREN FROM THE FAILURES THEY WILL FACE UNLESS THEY ARE REMOVED FROM THE COMMOM CORE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
48 posted on 04/25/2014 1:47:56 AM PDT by itssme
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IOW, this critic (who probably voted for the dumb bastard) will now be excoriated as a racist because the black POTUS is sending his larvae to private schools. Thanks Nachum.


49 posted on 04/25/2014 3:48:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Zeneta

In Taiwan, the children are segregated based on their scores on semester tests. Each semester would have a realignment of classes.

All the top achievers are in one class. The medium achievers are in another. The slower kids are in another. They cover the same required material, but how the teacher approaches the subject is different.

Also, when the bell rings it is the teachers that switch classes. The students stay in the same classroom. All the students take the same classes.


50 posted on 04/25/2014 6:02:18 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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