Skip to comments.When the government owns the land it's communism
Posted on 04/24/2014 6:03:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
When the government owns the land and natural resources and controls production from same, it's called communism. The Founders intended Americans to enjoy their God-given liberty. The constitution was written to severely restrict government power and ensure freedom. The founders never intended for an all powerful central government to own the land or to control the means of production. They limited the central government to about 18 enumerated powers and left all others to the people and the states to decide locally. The United States was intended to be a free Republic governed at various levels by elected representatives, working within the framework of and restrained by the constitution, not a communist state controlled by unelected bureaucrats and corrupt politicians of a powerful central government.
It's way past time for we the people to tell the bureaucrats and the corrupt crony politicians who unlawfully change the constitution by bureaucratic regulation, congressional act, judicial activism or executive fiat to get lost. If we are ever going to restore our constitution and reclaim our liberty, we're going to have to be a bit more assertive about it.
The current activities in Nevada, Utah and Texas are a wake-up call for the people. When I see men and women determined to fight for our constitution and our freedom against heavily armed, lawless, entrenched bureaucrats, I feel optimistic about our prospects for long lived liberty. We need more of this, not less.
(If it is, it's not working)
The way Hairy is talking it’s probably Jimson weed.
Well..., I knew it wasn’t Sage.
It was and understood right of the commoner to grazes there livestock on the common (waste) public land...”enclosure”...blocking that right ...is how you convert common land to private ownership
all agree its public (common) land be it federal or state..in effect this is conversion by enclosure of common publicly owned land to private Federally owned land.. (the kings land..80% of Nevada)
Damned straight! They’ll have us all living in ‘sectors’ if they have their way.
Everything that the government is doing - cities, counties, and states - are in accordance with the UN resolution 21. Get people out of the rural areas, put them all in high apartments in downtown areas, and totally totally control their lives.
The more people crowded in cities will make people believe the fallacies of an overcrowded planet which, in turn, helps to promote the evils of abortion and euthanasia.
Yup, that’s communism.
Most definitely AMEN.
Federal control of contiguous lands is contrary to the spirit of our founding. The Feds need to prove that control of these lands is necessary for it to perform its duty to the states. Of course, it cannot.
Washington Pledged long ago that it would sell the land to any american who would buy it. It broke that pledge in the 1970’s with deasterous unfair consequences to the Rural people of the Western states. Stifling their economic potential.
This must end, Put the land up for sale again!
“Federal control of contiguous lands is contrary to the spirit of our founding. The Feds need to prove that control of these lands is necessary for it to perform its duty to the states. Of course, it cannot.”
The only way they could do that is to build a military base on it. The feds already have plenty of military reservations out west, they don’t even need a lot of them.
Technically under the Federal Constitution their suppose to get State consent for said military bases.
I understand the feds control something like 90% of Nevada, 60% of Utah. Was much of that land private and now federalized, or was it federal and they’ve just stopped selling/privatizing it?
Look, i refuses to acknowledge the significant of the U.N. its a joke to anyone who looks around the world and sees everyone flaunt the opinion and edicts of the New York based mob of dictators and tyrants.
As for urbanization. I would note that city’s are generally located on the nexus of natural trade routs thus giving them best access to resources around them.
Baring political corruption(the liberal high tax and regulatory kind), a service based economy will normally find it most efferent to setup business in theses locations.
That is why the city’s grow, people and industry want access to resources and natural factors make such places the best general locations on earth.
If you want to attack urbanization, you got to chear on local Liberal corruption.
IE: let liberals drive up the cost of business and living in the city’s so people and industry find it more advantageous to move away.
Unfortunately Liberals In Washington have been working hard to shift this wasteful political corruption costs to everyone everywhere thus making their own localized corruption less particularly detrimental.
This is why rural folks have typically resented the behavior of urban politicians, as they tend do such things for just such reasons.
“I understand the feds control something like 90% of Nevada, 60% of Utah. Was much of that land private and now federalized, or was it federal and theyve just stopped selling/privatizing it?”
more like 81% of Nevada and 61% of Utah. The problem is primary Washington has just stopped generally selling much of it in the 1970s. But there are numerous cases where Washington has acquired new lands to horde or lord over.
Such is the case in States Like Texas who were at one point their own republic thus never started out with any Federal land.
Anyone know the status of the land where the nukes were tested?
“Anyone know the status of the land where the nukes were tested?”
Federal in New Mexico(whitesands), and i’m all but certain all the Nevada Test Sites were all on ‘federal land’ lands in title as well.
The land was considered as territorial lands and should have been turned over to the states as they became states.
As a man who grew up in just such a Western State surrounded by such Federal land I don’t disagree.
But I would point out that the Federal Government spent millions of dollars in Acquiring that land from Mexico. The Eastern States that payed for that land should be able to resell it just as they sold the land in the other states West of the Mississippi river.
I think this is fair, All we of the West have the most legitimate right to demand is that they keep their compact and continue to offer the land up for sale as they had prior to the 1970’s.
The Sagebrush Rebellion lives!!!
I agree with you, Jim. But we also need to spend more time studying how these corporate laws are being abused to serve the needs of communism. How many thousands of hours do people spend over guns and prepping? And how many hours do people spend studying the basics of law?
Generations of brave Americans fought to protect an America based on laws and not men. We owe them to learn about the thing they fought to protect. Because the fact is that the Left does just that. They study the laws, and then twist them to their needs - and no one stands in their way, because no one understands how they’ve done what they’ve done
We - must - understand what they’ve done, and - how - they’ve done it. Without that knowledge, we’re fighting blind. And among other things, we are vulnerable to every RINO that comes along, let alone Leftist. We have to bail, yes - but we also have to fix the hole in the boat. Or we simple won’t get anywhere but exhausted.
1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes. Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management, (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership).
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants (those who leave the country) and rebels. Americans call it government seizures, asset seizure laws, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF, BLM, etc...).
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. Americans call it by names such as The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned" This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations. Currently, the US government virtually owns General Motors, AIG insurance, and other banks and companies it has bailed out, another unconstitutional idea that has just been allowed recently.
A review of 45 Communist Goals, Congressional Record, 1963
So,my fellow Americans, how are we doing?