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McCain: Itís a stain on Americaís honor that we havenít passed amnesty yet
Hot Air ^ | April 24, 2014 | Allahpundit

Posted on 04/24/2014 11:46:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Skip to 43:30 for the key bit. Offhand, I don’t think I’ve ever heard him put it this way before. The “de facto amnesty” line is an old chestnut, the line about people in the shadows is a very old chestnut, but the idea that America has actually dishonored itself by dragging its feet in rewarding endless millions of people who broke U.S. law with citizenship is a new one on me. I wonder, does it mitigate the dishonor any that we amnestized them once already in 1986 and will surely do so again sometime soon? How much contempt for our own law do we need to show before the stain is expunged?

Does this guy … not care at all how this rhetoric sounds to people skeptical of comprehensive reform? Per his own logic, given the depths of dishonor we’ve already sunk to in trying to enforce our own borders, I can’t imagine why we would insist on any new security measures as the price for approving mass legalization. If there’s no way to deter people who are already here from staying — “they’re not going home” — why are we even bothering with E-Verify? It’s impossible to watch this and not conclude that the only reason McCain and his allies agreed to beefier security in the Gang of Eight bill was to sweeten the deal politically for skeptics, not because they think that security will work. Or even want it to.

And by the way, when I say it’s coming soon, I mean soon:

House Speaker John Boehner theatrically mocked his fellow Republican Congressmen for being afraid to reform immigration policy when he spoke Thursday before the Middletown Rotary Club in his home district.

“Here’s the attitude. Ohhhh. Don’t make me do this. Ohhhh. This is too hard,” Boehner whined before a luncheon crowd at Brown’s Run County Club in Madison Township.

“We get elected to make choices. We get elected to solve problems and it’s remarkable to me how many of my colleagues just don’t want to … They’ll take the path of least resistance.”

The House primaries will be over in June, at which point there’s nothing stopping Boehner from bringing a bill to the floor except his own fear of being deposed as Speaker. And maybe he’s not as fearful of that as we think.

Note, by the way, that McCain vows he’ll try to have any immigration bill that passes Congress named after Ted Kennedy. That smells like a cheap applause line given that he’s speaking here at Harvard’s Kennedy school of government, but he’s said it before. He means it.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; boehner; collaborator; immigration; mccain
Why not Joseph Stalin or Vladimir Lenin?
1 posted on 04/24/2014 11:46:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So says McStain.


2 posted on 04/24/2014 11:47:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The GOP’s full court amnesty press is on.


3 posted on 04/24/2014 11:48:34 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can McStain’s honor get any more stained? He’s surely gonna try.


4 posted on 04/24/2014 11:49:17 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
evidently the biggest idiot and embarassment in the history of the United States Senate has never heard of this :

Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986

-legalized illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 1982 and had resided there continuously with the penalty of a fine, back taxes due, and admission of guilt; candidates were required to prove that they were not guilty of crimes, that they were in the country before January 1, 1982, and that they possessed minimal knowledge about U.S. history, government, and the English language.

About three million (estimated) illegal immigrants were granted legal status through this act

please mccain, do America a favor and resign now.

5 posted on 04/24/2014 11:56:01 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: TigersEye

Has anyone figured out that 0 is offering $$$ for votes (or 72 virgins if the accomplish their mission) yet? I wish someone in the fray of all this, hopefully a senior senator with a conscience and a set of balls would come forward and tell us what carrots they are dangling behind closed doors or in the halls of Congress to get amnesty passed. Isn’t it obvious? I know it would guarantee Dem votes and control for years. What I want to know why specific members are acting the way they do about the issue when they were vehemently against illegal immigration and ready to erect huge fences in the Southern states in orevious years. Not conjecture but specifics.


6 posted on 04/24/2014 11:56:09 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain reminds me more of jimmy carter every day.


7 posted on 04/24/2014 11:56:27 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: servo1969

Let’s see...
So far we’ve had-

Rick Perry
Rand Paul
McCain
Lindsey Graham
Jeb Bush
and John Boehner
dropping amnesty bread crumbs in the news.
The GOP is pulling out all the stops to make it happen this summer.
If Cruz ever goes amnesty it’s over.
I don’t think he will but I’m not willing to bet money on anyone any longer.


8 posted on 04/24/2014 11:59:44 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: Olog-hai

It really is a shame he was re-elected he is a
disgrace just like the rest of them.

He says he was elected to make choices no he is elected to represent the people and I would bet the majority of people are not for what he is selling. He is a failure in my book.


9 posted on 04/25/2014 12:01:24 AM PDT by funfan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McPain IS the stain on America.


10 posted on 04/25/2014 12:02:25 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FUJM


11 posted on 04/25/2014 12:06:47 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
John McCain stained the Naval Academy with his rank stupidity, stained the Navy with five wrecked aircraft, stained his first marriage with another woman, stained his Senate oath of office with a savings-and-loan bribe, stained his Party with a faux Presidential campaign, stained our national honor by cavorting with cannibal jihadists in Syria...
12 posted on 04/25/2014 12:08:10 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

13 posted on 04/25/2014 12:09:57 AM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Secret Agent Man
FUJM

I wish he would STFU and FOAD. He is a POS.

14 posted on 04/25/2014 12:14:43 AM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Speaking of stains, McCain should be called “skid mark”.


15 posted on 04/25/2014 12:26:11 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McAmnesty is such a putz.


16 posted on 04/25/2014 12:32:12 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: TigersEye
McCain and other Republicans don't get it: The PROBLEM is not the 10-20 million illegals in the country now. It is the next 10-20 million illegals that will cross our borders in the next 10-20 years when once again pro-amnesty people will beg to make these lawbreakers automatic citizens.

1. Suppose tomorrow amnesty is granted to all 10-20 million illegals.

2. Does anyone believe that the crowds waiting for nightfall to cross the Mexican border will suddenly disappear?

3. If you believe that, then I have some ocean property in Nevada to sell you.

4. AMNESTY for 10-20 million illegals must be stopped at all costs, because such AMNESTY will only encourage and give hope to another 10-20 million illegals to cross our borders over the next 10 years. because they will know that if they stay long enough, FUTURE AMNESTY politicians like McCain will feel sorry for them and grant them AMNESTY like those who were granted AMNESTY back in 2014.

17 posted on 04/25/2014 12:56:05 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The country needs to be McCainless and therefore stainless.


18 posted on 04/25/2014 12:57:11 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mcvain is the stain that is the skid mark in my shorts.


19 posted on 04/25/2014 2:42:22 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: Dagnabitt

Totally agree. McCain got into the Naval Academy because of his father. He then proceeded to show how incompetent he was throughout his military career. He has ridden the POW status horse to obtain the sympathy vote his whole career. There are other POWs who of course thought he belonged in the traitor category. Today, I know he belongs in the traitor category. Be gone, McShame, McStain, and all the other names you deserve.


20 posted on 04/25/2014 2:48:17 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The Right To Bear Arms: Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why is Boehner whining? Why doesn’t he just do it? Afraid he will lose his cushy job?


21 posted on 04/25/2014 2:51:50 AM PDT by IamConservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Perhaps the most noxious affectation of the crony capitalist pols selling out the country for amnesty is when they try to wrap their treachery in an air of moral superiority.


22 posted on 04/25/2014 2:56:22 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the man who, had he been elected president in 2008, would be holding a signing ceremony in the WH gardens. This is the man who, had Mitt Romney, would be standing along side the President smiling while Romney signed the Amnesty bill.

People of Arizona. Why do you keep putting him back in office? Do you just like to hear the words “Senator from Arizona” or what? You have a madman masquerading as an Arizona statesman and all he does is work diligently to undermine your own laws, your sovereignty and your freedom. All in the name of ‘reaching across the aisle’. You didn’t get a ‘reach across’ you got a ‘reach around.’


23 posted on 04/25/2014 2:56:36 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“We get elected to make choices. We get elected to solve problems and it’s remarkable to me how many of my colleagues just don’t want to … They’ll take the path of least resistance.”

What foolish men are Boehner and McCain! They should be talking about how we can secure our borders. Secure our borders, men! After our borders are secure then is the time to talk about how to deal in a compassionate manner with the illegal immigrants already in this country.

Living in the shadows and a desperate need to fix our "broken" system are shallow arguments for amnesty and an insult to those who immigrated in a legal manner.

The crisis in illegal immigration is our leaky borders. Talk about that. Tell us about the numbers since 1987. Tell us about the numbers each and every day. Tell us about the terrorists coming in. That is the crisis!

Only Democrats try to fool us over and over again since 1987 with the same empty promises and lip service about securing our borders.

Illegals already here have been in the USA for thirty years or more; they can wait until we have the right answers and resources after our borders are secured.

24 posted on 04/25/2014 3:07:53 AM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We don’t have enough money to: (1) reward illegals with citizenship, and (2) reward them with free health care. That even ignores the fact that it’s immoral to reward criminals while making law-abiding potential citizens wait years or often forever to come to our country legally, and it’s particularly stupid to selectively reward criminals while advertising to attract those criminals who have expensive illnesses and promise them free medical care for life. John McCain jumped the shark years ago, and he’s ready for retirement.


25 posted on 04/25/2014 3:30:38 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
To John McCain: STFU!
26 posted on 04/25/2014 3:59:18 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a stain on America’s honor that we’re even discussing amnesty for illegal aliens. A nation that does not defend its borders and its culture is doomed.


27 posted on 04/25/2014 4:01:27 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

S H U T

U P

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


28 posted on 04/25/2014 4:03:00 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a stain on America’s honor that Arizona hasn’t retired this guy yet.


29 posted on 04/25/2014 4:03:51 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: al_c

McLame has become a ‘stain” on the fabric of America. He has outlived his time as a POW. It is what he didn’t learn from that experience that troubles me. Time for his retirement has come and gone, get it over with.


30 posted on 04/25/2014 4:14:01 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a stain on our honor that we haven’t stopped these invaders from occupying and settling on our soil and destroying our American culture and heritage.
If they want amnesty then they should at least meet us half way and become fluent in our language.


31 posted on 04/25/2014 4:37:44 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Government by Gun Point.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a stain on America’s honor that you’re still in office.


32 posted on 04/25/2014 5:03:27 AM PDT by Cymbaline ("Allahu Akbar": Arabic for "Nothing To See Here" - Mark Steyn)
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To: clearcarbon

Its a Shame that the rocket on the Forrestal didn’t zoom up McCains tailpipe.


33 posted on 04/25/2014 5:07:55 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: funfan
He says he was elected to make choices

Two points for the distinguished Senator to consider:

1. Amnesty was passed in 1986 (Simpson Mazzioli), but the law has been selectively enforced since then (just like most every other bill signed into law).

2. Your "choices" on the budget have contributed mightily to the debt that is on the glide path to $20 Trillion.

34 posted on 04/25/2014 5:15:40 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Here’s the attitude. Ohhhh. Don’t make me do this. Ohhhh. This is too hard,” Boehner whined before a luncheon crowd at Brown’s Run County Club in Madison Township.

Sums up your performance on the budget, Mr. Speaker.

35 posted on 04/25/2014 5:16:49 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hell, why not just surrender to Mehhicckko and be done with it?


36 posted on 04/25/2014 5:19:01 AM PDT by Flintlock ( islam is a LIE, mohammed was a CRIMINAL, sharia is POISON.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

John is a stain in America’s shorts.


37 posted on 04/25/2014 5:22:42 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: TigersEye

It’s a stain on Arizona and America’s honor that he is still in the Senate.


38 posted on 04/25/2014 5:46:34 AM PDT by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An open letter to the GOP Members of Congress

As a Representative or Senator in Congress, you took this Oath:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."


"Support and defend the Constitution" it says. Did you see that? That document requires, per Art.4, S.4, that

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."


An invasion is what we are suffering. That invasion has accelerated with each "comprehensive immigration reform" previously enacted. Instead of another disastrous reform that yet again increases the incentives for millions more to try their luck crossing the southern border, a Representative who took his Oath and the Constitution seriously would be pressing for what the American people have repeatedly said they want - not what Senators Schumer and McCain, Mark Zuckerberg, Mexico, some border state farmers and homebuilders or the Chamber of Commerce rent-seekers want. That is:
  1. secure the border in a transparently verifiable way;
  2. end the anchor-baby interpretation of the 14th Amendment;
  3. enforce eVerify without exception and with severe penalties;
  4. no government benefits beyond critical emergency care (and that ought to be billed back to the home government); and
  5. NO "Path to Citizenship" - EVER - for anyone who has entered the US illegally.
Any bill that does not accomplish these five things is unacceptable. It is de facto amnesty. And it will inevitably encourage millions more illegal entries.

If the GOP is complicit in this amnesty fiasco, either by taking up the Senate bill or through some piecemeal slight of hand with a series of House bills such as we hear are being cooked up of late, or as riders on other necessary legislation, the GOP will cease to exist. It will not survive through the 2016 elections. The people will shun the over-tanned, glad-handing, backslapping quislings and look elsewhere for leaders who actually have the spine for the fight. Make no mistake - to me and to many, many others, amnesty is the GOP's Rubicon. Cross it at your electoral peril.

39 posted on 04/25/2014 6:03:04 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: kingattax
Beat me to it. McCain remembers this legislation full well.

He was a hero once; today he is both a liar and a traitor.

40 posted on 04/25/2014 6:57:03 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: TigersEye

Its a stain on America’s sanity that McShame is still in office and not in a home.


41 posted on 04/25/2014 7:48:23 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: john mirse
McCain and other Republicans don't get it:

They do get it. They want to replace the White Christian Middle-class that demands liberty, prosperity, and government accountability with a docile Third world population that is conformable living is squalor while they provide El Jeffe with a luxurious lifestyle.

42 posted on 04/25/2014 9:14:27 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wouldn’t be talking about “stains on honor’ if my nickname was McStain. But that’s just me. ; )


43 posted on 04/25/2014 12:23:19 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a stain on America’s honor that you are still a Senator, John.


44 posted on 04/25/2014 12:24:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McLame is a stain on American honor, his service record notwithstanding.


45 posted on 04/25/2014 1:29:57 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I think you put it best. Who is crazier McLame or the people who put him in office and the colleagues who take him seriously?


46 posted on 04/25/2014 3:02:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...
McCain: It’s a stain on America’s honor that we haven’t passed amnesty yet

PING!

47 posted on 04/26/2014 8:51:30 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Iirc, Arizona permits recalls.


48 posted on 04/26/2014 11:34:52 PM PDT by Yehuda (Search youtube and listen to "Islams Not For Me".)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It’s a stain on America’s honor that this coward is still in the U.S. Senate.


49 posted on 04/27/2014 2:34:12 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a stain on America’s honor that we haven’t retired you, McStain!


50 posted on 04/27/2014 2:58:39 PM PDT by Taxman
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