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Ice on Superior - The Winter that won't end!
Wawa-news ^ | 4/22/14 | Brenda Grundt

Posted on 04/25/2014 2:08:40 AM PDT by Libloather

Spring seems to be taking forever to arrive, but we are not really seeing the worst of the late spring.

The Great Lakes, and Lake Superior is holding on to their ice. As a result the freighters that normally travel the Great Lakes are having their fair share of problems. This has been a very long winter season, beginning with the Great Lakes freezing on December 6th, not allowing Northwest Indiana steel mills to stockpile materials. Glen Nekvasil, vice president for Lake Carriers' Association explained that lake freighters are struggling to make the voyage across Lake Superior despite the thick shelf ice and windrows of up to 14-feet-tall. Those delays caused Gary Works to run at reduced capacity. "This is the worst winter since 1993 or 1994," Nekvasil said. "The last time ice breakers were out this late in the season convoying vessles was 1996. It's been a very brutal winter."

Closer to home, Essar Steel is receiving freighter shipments of coal from the south, however iron ore from Duluth/Superior are being delayed. Essar Steel is receiving ore via rail.

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Ice coverage on April 15th, 2014.
1 posted on 04/25/2014 2:08:41 AM PDT by Libloather
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Ice coverage on April 18th, 2014.


Ice coverage on April 20th, 2014.


Ice coverage on April 21st, 2014.

2 posted on 04/25/2014 2:12:30 AM PDT by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: Libloather
Looks like Gitche Gumee still has some thawing out to do :)
3 posted on 04/25/2014 2:13:27 AM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: Libloather

It is still snowing up here in the UP of Michigan. Next week snow predicted Mon and Tues. 5 inches on the ground from last nights dusting. Looks like summer will be here around July 4th. Do not laugh it has snowed in July in the UP of MI!


4 posted on 04/25/2014 2:22:08 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: Libloather

“The Great Lakes, and Lake Superior is holding on to their ice.”

What a sentence!!


5 posted on 04/25/2014 2:40:26 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: Libloather

I still can’t believe you scan the Wawa News.


6 posted on 04/25/2014 2:41:40 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Former Proud Canadian

It was one of the latest stories I found on Google. BTW, I blame Canada for this whole mess.


7 posted on 04/25/2014 2:46:10 AM PDT by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: Libloather

8 posted on 04/25/2014 2:50:32 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Libloather

Joe Bastardi has been all over this...


9 posted on 04/25/2014 2:53:28 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: cripplecreek; Perdogg; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ...

Lake Michigan’s freeze this year was, as one might expect, very impressive. The last time I’d been out (before yesterday) was in February, and on that day there were more people at the beach in Grand Haven than there are most summer days. People had tables and chairs out on the frozen Lake, out past the end of the pier (!), and were having lunch, or brunch, drinking wine (hey, it’s okay, isn’t that international waters? ;’), etc. Drove along there yesterday, the river was no longer the great white way, and the lake is entirely ice-free. The earthmovers are out there clearing the driftwood and such (generally the winter brings in or uncovers the large remains of dead trees for example) and recycling the sand, to get the state park in shape. Something about that made me realize that, finally, winter is over.

Thanks Libloather.


10 posted on 04/25/2014 3:01:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Libloather
...lake freighters are struggling to make the voyage across Lake Superior despite the thick shelf ice and windrows of up to 14-feet-tall.

'despite'?

11 posted on 04/25/2014 3:02:21 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
This crap has long since stopped being funny.

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12 posted on 04/25/2014 4:14:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: hondact200

Oh great. We’re going to a cottage in Michigan for 4 days, starting May 8th. I guess I should be packing my boots.


13 posted on 04/25/2014 4:17:00 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Libloather

“This has been a very long winter season, beginning with the Great Lakes freezing on December 6th, not allowing Northwest Indiana steel mills to stockpile materials.”

How’s that “Just-In-Time” crap from the Japanese feel now?


14 posted on 04/25/2014 4:18:33 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Libloather

“Gaia” seems to be getting very chilly about her global warming.


15 posted on 04/25/2014 4:19:51 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: BobL

It works great until God throws in a monkey wrench.


16 posted on 04/25/2014 4:20:44 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: JudyinCanada

The opening of walleye season is a Minnesota High Holy Day which starts around the middle of May. Anyone who’s been around for a bunch of them knows there will be years when there will still be ice floating around on the lakes.

Of course, out in the northwoods, it can be 39 degrees the morning of the Fourth of July.


17 posted on 04/25/2014 4:28:51 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Libloather

This, of course, is the result of global WARMIN! /sarc

oh wait, Climate CHANGE! /sarc (nope, still frozen, no change here)

SOLAR MAUNDER MINIMUM!

“We’re at the sunspot maximum of Cycle 24. It’s the smallest sunspot cycle in 100 years and the third in a trend of diminishing sunspot cycles. So, Cycle 25 could likely be smaller than Cycle 24.”

“during the 1645 — 1715 Maunder Minimum itself, sunspots basically disappeared and as documented in paintings from the era, Northern Europe suffered unusually cold winter temperatures.”

“If we’re entering a Maunder Minimum, it could persist until the 2080s,” said Giampapa, who points out that if such a minimum’s primary effect is cooling, it could wreak havoc by curtailing agricultural growing seasons which, for instance, could lead to lower wheat production in breadbasket economies”

from...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucedorminey/2014/01/20/sun-flatlining-into-grand-minimum-says-solar-physicist/


18 posted on 04/25/2014 4:29:59 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: The Cajun

I drove by Lake Michigan at Petoskey yesterday and took photos of the still frozen lake.


19 posted on 04/25/2014 4:32:00 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“It works great until God throws in a monkey wrench.”

...or the unions.


20 posted on 04/25/2014 4:32:39 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Libloather

Wawa is a great little Ontario town. Last time I landed there, it had enough saloons and whisky to keep me happy. The part I didn’t like was constantly stopping the car to roll boulders off the road. It’s a real northern thing in that part of the world, hey?


21 posted on 04/25/2014 4:35:24 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Libloather

I remember flying over the Mississippi during the early 90’s when there was severe flooding. The river was swollen out of its banks and flooding was extensive.

Is this going to another severe flood year?


22 posted on 04/25/2014 4:35:46 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR

There were some flooding issues in Southeastern Ontario last week due to the higher than normal snowfall this winter.


23 posted on 04/25/2014 5:08:25 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: jjotto

Wife and I plus another couple sailed out of Two Harbors on the morning of July 4 some years ago. It was 70 degrees at the ore dock. Barely 40 out on the Big Lake.


24 posted on 04/25/2014 5:09:54 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

hehe

I remember plenty of summer mornings in the forest between Bemidji and Park Rapids. We’d drive into Park Rapids for the sunshine and extra 25 degrees.


25 posted on 04/25/2014 5:16:12 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Duluth and the North Shore were my old stomping grounds.


26 posted on 04/25/2014 5:21:19 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The water in the lake was probably barely above freezing. I think its median annual temperature is around 38 degrees. And it seldom gets above 40.


27 posted on 04/25/2014 5:23:29 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Libloather

I don’t know how much of this global warming we can take.


28 posted on 04/25/2014 5:23:37 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: JudyinCanada

Yeah, sort of like Saskatoon on the May 24 weekend. Bring a parka.


29 posted on 04/25/2014 5:36:57 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: jjotto

Some years back, the wife and I stayed at a hotel in Superior, Wisconsin in late May. When we left that morning to head back home in a southerly direction, it was below freezing. Later that day when we got back to our home about 250 miles south it was almost 80 degrees. Every time we travel in that area in May, we freeze. Lake Superior is like one gigantic refrigerator.


30 posted on 04/25/2014 6:36:13 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: IronJack
This reminds me of an old, and true, Explorer Scout story. In the summer of 1960 (that's right, 1960) my Explorer post and I went on a late August trip to Isle Royale National Park, located at the NW end of Lake Superior. We were all pretty good swimmers and some of us, myself not included, decided to go for a swim in the lake. The swimmers ran out to the end of a pier, jumped in, immediately almost froze to death, screamed in pain, and shot out of the water like so many handballs bouncing off a wall. The rest of us just about died laughing.
31 posted on 04/25/2014 6:37:42 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: IronJack

I remember the summer of ‘63 when on a trip to Michigan and back, our family stopped by the shores of the lake. My older brother and I waded out quite a distance. It was August, and the water close to the shore was not too bad. We must have caught it at the peak high water temperature.


32 posted on 04/25/2014 6:39:33 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Where’s algore (mr globull warming) now that we need him?


33 posted on 04/25/2014 6:45:22 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hondact200
5 inches on the ground from last nights dusting. Looks like summer will be here around July 4th. Do not laugh it has snowed in July in the UP of MI!

I'll never forget the first time I saw Marquette.

I drove into town in the midst of a sleet storm...on the afternoon of July 4, 1961.

34 posted on 04/25/2014 7:03:03 AM PDT by okie01 (and grants)
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To: libstripper

I had a boss who used to sail up around the Apostles during the summer. He said that every year someone unfamiliar with the lake would anchor out in the deeps and jump in for a quick swim ... then just as quicly jump right back out!

He said it also wasn’t unusual for them to suffer heart attacks from the shock and drown. Said he watched it happen once and even aided in the search for the body.

The Big Lake doesn’t forgive.

Close to shore, the water can be tolerable. We’ve taken the kids swimming at Sandy Point. But they don’t go out very far and they don’t stay in long.


35 posted on 04/25/2014 7:27:43 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Libloather; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; ...

Ice on Lake Superior: now’s the chance for the Wisconsin List to chime in on global warming/cooling.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


36 posted on 04/25/2014 7:38:25 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: ThomasMore
Speaking of Ice

Things in the Antarctic are getting very interesting

In 2007, after 7 years trending downward, the IPCC in their report predicted the sea ice around Antarctica will continue to decline and the decline may soon accelerate

After the 2007 report right on queue, in 2008 the sea ice did the opposite and after it's minimum in February went on explosive growth reaching record highs for the time of year.

This year, the sea ice growth has been similar and has been matching 2008 as the record highest sea ice amount for the time of year.

However, in mid-April 2008, the sea ice growth mysteriously paused for a few weeks and fell back to near normal levels.

What's interesting to watch now, is so far 2014 hasn't experienced a pause like 2008 and is at record highs ( at a whopping 29% above normal) and still rapidly growing. If the sea ice continues to rapidly grow, when the sea ice reaches it's maximum in August/September it's not only going to break the record, it's going to shatter it big time.

Here are the charts from the Cryosphere Today

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/antarctic.sea.ice.interactive.html

37 posted on 04/25/2014 7:41:30 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Libloather
The Winter that won't end

Hillary and the Wardrobe.

38 posted on 04/25/2014 7:59:24 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Libloather
global warming is a hoax democrats manufactured to grow government(socialism) and enslave us

EVERY democrat tells me :”The ice is melting” LOL

I tell the democrat “ You brainwashed democrat moron: the ice is NOT melting and global warming is a hoax.”

The democrat also says that the cold winter that never ends is caused by “global warming”. LOL . yes they are that brainwashed by their masters in the news media LOL LOL

39 posted on 04/25/2014 8:02:20 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: libstripper

We should throw all democrats that believe in global warming into the waters up there now. they all do believe in global warming.

global warming is a hoax democrats created to grow government, to grow socialism and enslave us


40 posted on 04/25/2014 8:09:27 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: libstripper

I had the same experience swimming in the upper Columbia River one summer. We walked barefoot down the beach burning our feet on the black sands and jumped into the river only to meet with 40 degree water. We stood on the shoreline jumping back and forth from water to beach trying to decide to try and run back up the beach or suffer the water. We took the beach run back for our shoes.


41 posted on 04/25/2014 8:16:20 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Libloather

Gee, didn’t Al Gore tell us that by now there would be palm trees growing in northern Minnesota and snow would be seen only in photos?


42 posted on 04/25/2014 8:16:56 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Libloather

43 posted on 04/25/2014 8:17:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: The Great RJ
The reporting is all lies and the photos are all doctored, don't you know?

You deniers! sheesh....(lol)

44 posted on 04/25/2014 8:19:10 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: JudyinCanada
Dress in layers and do not believe the forecasts.

They said it would be 63 (17c) today, it's 42 (6c).

45 posted on 04/25/2014 8:23:55 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Ken H

I noticed that, too - this reporter obviously never got any ‘red marks’ on her writing assignments back in school.


46 posted on 04/25/2014 8:35:39 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Brrrrr. Where are you? We are going to be in Lake City, Michigan.


47 posted on 04/25/2014 8:38:06 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: JudyinCanada
Outside Rockford, you will be about 75 miles north.

Don't plan on swimming in the lake. :)

48 posted on 04/25/2014 8:56:05 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: IronJack
In 1975 or 1976 I hiked the length of Isle Royale. I stank, itched horribly, and was filthy by the end and desperately needed a bath. To do so, I found a small, shallow bay that looked like it might not be too cold. Using a tee shirt as a wash cloth, I sponge bathed while standing in the not-too-cold water. Then I rinsed using the tee shirt and water from the little bay. Although cold, it wasn't too bad and I never felt better after a bath.
49 posted on 04/25/2014 11:10:07 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: BobL

the Iron Ore is what is used in making the steel, the ore comes from northern Mn mines and is shipped in rail car’s to Duluth then loaded in to ships to the lower lakes and to the mills in winter the ore is stocked piled at the mills for used in winter and stocked piled in duluth for spring shipping season


50 posted on 04/25/2014 12:53:56 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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