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I Don't Care if Cliven Bundy is a Racist
Youtube ^ | 4/24/14 | Kira Davis

Posted on 04/25/2014 7:37:50 AM PDT by Nachum

Who cares? He could believe Bette Midler is the 12th Imam, it doesn't change the fact that the government has sent SWAT teams to collect a tax bill from a free citizen

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: bundy; cliven; clivenbundy; harryreid; nevada; racist
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Like this woman. She gets it.

Vid at link.

1 posted on 04/25/2014 7:37:50 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Preach it, Sistah!


2 posted on 04/25/2014 7:40:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Nachum

Fact is, he’s not.

If we want to talk racist, let’s take a look at Sharpton...who owes more money to the IRS than Bundy and is a provey lying race baiter.

STFU, MSM, you’re full of shi...er...Obamastuff.

So, cram your Obamastuff back into your Obamahole.


3 posted on 04/25/2014 7:41:44 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Nachum
RE :” I Don't Care if Cliven Bundy is a Racist,”

????

4 posted on 04/25/2014 7:41:48 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: Nachum

Unedited Video Shows Bundy Making Pro-Black, Pro-Mexican Comments
http://www.infowars.com/unedited-video-shows-bundy-making-pro-black-pro-mexican-comments/


5 posted on 04/25/2014 7:42:24 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Da Coyote

Oops, that’s “proven”. Another Obamadork moment...caused by extreme rage at the MSM and libs.


6 posted on 04/25/2014 7:42:24 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: dfwgator

Now the liberals are going to twist this all around, make the issue that Bundy is allegedly racist, rather than us discussing the issue of the cattle grazing on federal land, etc.

Now the liberals in the media will perform character assassination, rather than have us discuss the issue at hand. This is what liberals like to do.


7 posted on 04/25/2014 7:42:25 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (Im)
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To: Nachum

Bundy’s sin was to tell the truth.

http://www.beyondblackwhite.com/freedom-enough-moynihan-report-americas-struggle-black-family-life-from-lbj-obama-book-review/

Editorial Staff, Money, No Wedding, No Womb!, Politics

Daniel Patrick Moynihan Predicted the Future of the Black Family But Too Few People Actually Listened

January 17, 2013 by Jamila Akil

The Negro Family: The Case for National Action, the 78-page report written by a then 38-year old Daniel Patrick ‘Pat’ Moynihan, an assistant secretary of labor for policy in the Lyndon B. Johnson administration, was never supposed to see the light of day.

The Negro Family, which later came to be widely known simply as “The Moynihan Report,” did not even originally have Moynihan’s name on it’s cover–the document was only meant to be distributed to high-ranking members of the Johnson administration in order to spur discussion regarding what policies could be implemented in order to assist the Negro family with the task of fully integrating society.

But, Moynihan was also issuing a warning. The Negro family was already suffering rates of familial disintegration, poverty, and out-of-wedlock pregnancy at rates far higher than white families; if something was not done soon, he warned that the problems of lower class blacks (i.e., a “tangle of pathology”) may well become self-perpetuating, if they had not become self-perpetuating already.

Excerpted. Go to the link to see what a Democrat Moynihan predicted re the dire results for the Blacks in America after living in the War on Poverty.

http://www.beyondblackwhite.com/freedom-enough-moynihan-report-americas-struggle-black-family-life-from-lbj-obama-book-review/


8 posted on 04/25/2014 7:42:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama cannot divert resources from his war on Americans!)
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To: Nachum

And in full context and when fully heard, the comments were not racially bigoted.

Certainly his communication was unsophisticated and even anachronistic.

But there really was not sentiment of racial bigotry or animosity.

He is clearly not a sophisticated person andnthe New York Times partook in clear yellow journalism.


9 posted on 04/25/2014 7:42:59 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Nachum

Who said he is a racist?


10 posted on 04/25/2014 7:43:20 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Nachum

Bundy’s comments = “Look, a squirrel!”


11 posted on 04/25/2014 7:44:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Nachum

I agree with her about the true issue here,

but I will not cede that Bundy is a “racist”.


12 posted on 04/25/2014 7:45:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Nachum

I couldn’t get Hannity of my radio fast enough yesterday. He was going friggin’ nuts over what Bundy said. And, to top it all off, he kept repeating “Government gone wild!” I’ve quit listening to Hannity. All he does is repeat, repeat and then repeat!


13 posted on 04/25/2014 7:45:36 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“rather than us discussing the issue of the cattle grazing on federal land”

which is not the issue either.

Sending militarized federal law enforcement is the issue.


14 posted on 04/25/2014 7:46:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: dfwgator

‘Bundy’s comments = “Look, a squirrel!”’

Of Moose and Squirrel | Robot Chicken | Adult Swim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpjOF3ygTLE


15 posted on 04/25/2014 7:46:47 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

This is just a diversion.
The dim party’s media is in full protection mode of Harry Reid and the BLM. Tag someone as a racist, then it is ok to do anything to him, even take his land and kill his livestock according to them.

Looks like the feds are itchin for a fight.


16 posted on 04/25/2014 7:48:15 AM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is now the CPUSA)
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To: Nachum

“to collect a tax bill from a free citizen”

According to Bundy, the IRS has never sent him a tax bill.


17 posted on 04/25/2014 7:48:59 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Nachum
I Don't Care if Cliven Bundy is a Racist

I don't either. The "Racist!" card has been played out.

When black people change their behavior, I'll change my opinion of them.

18 posted on 04/25/2014 7:51:43 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Nachum

He basically said that black people rely too much on government. I agree so I must be a racist as well.


19 posted on 04/25/2014 7:51:58 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Nachum

He is FAR from a racist.. He is a worker (rancher).. and sees things for what they are (and we all know how the media skews what people saw (edits))...

I don’t know him or what he believes, but he started the ball rolling that should have been rolling decades ago.. The abuse and overpowering that the FED govt. has been doing for longer than I have been alive.


20 posted on 04/25/2014 7:52:39 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Nachum

Even if Bundy is a racist, the government cannot legitimately deprive him of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.


21 posted on 04/25/2014 7:53:16 AM PDT by null and void (...if you are too sure of your place in heaven you might be too arrogant to actually get there.)
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To: Nachum

BTW, ty Nachum for posting this.. and glad you got your website mess sorted out, that was nasty :/


22 posted on 04/25/2014 7:53:25 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Nachum

brand him a racist. reid warned him that ‘something’ would happen.

once he is branded as unpopular, who cares if his rights are trampled on, or if the full weight of an oppressive government is visited upon him, his children, and his children’s children.

marginalize and destroy, only now it isn’t rhetorical, it is literal.


23 posted on 04/25/2014 7:53:46 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Bikkuri

**edit saw = say**

hate when I do that >.>


24 posted on 04/25/2014 7:55:06 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Now the liberals are going to twist this all around, make the issue that Bundy is allegedly racist, rather than us discussing the issue of the cattle grazing on federal land, etc.

Now the liberals in the media will perform character assassination, rather than have us discuss the issue at hand. This is what liberals like to do.

This week the demonize, next week the burn him and his family alive. It's the Waco playbook.

Waco... Say, isn't that where Eric Holder got his start under Janet Reno?

25 posted on 04/25/2014 7:55:30 AM PDT by null and void (...if you are too sure of your place in heaven you might be too arrogant to actually get there.)
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RE :”Unedited Video Shows Bundy Making Pro-Black, Pro-Mexican Comments”

Yes, His praising illegal aliens is heartwarming:

Hard-working, good families ,awful nice people. We need those people to join us and be with us’

Bundy 2016 !

26 posted on 04/25/2014 7:56:14 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: Nachum
Clearly not an issue for the man at far left. Not an issue for me either. Memo to Bundy and all FRiends: The MSM is not your friend. None of them. That includes Fox, Hannity, and Beck. Keep the faith...
 photo BundyBro_zps53974793.jpg
27 posted on 04/25/2014 7:57:17 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Nachum

He’s an old man who has views that aren’t modern. Big deal. So now all the talk show people are throwing him under the bus - because they’re cowards.

I grew up with people who talked like this and they worked hard, were never on welfare and paid their taxes on time. They were frightened and resentful of inner city black men and women. Again, big deal! Their views had no impact on these people.

As far as I’m concerned, ranchers like him provided me with delicious food my whole life and I’m eternally grateful to him and all the rest of the men and women who are being pushed off the land.


28 posted on 04/25/2014 7:58:48 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Bikkuri

Well a “saw” is an old saying... ;-P


29 posted on 04/25/2014 8:00:12 AM PDT by MortMan (Never forget to remember!)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“He basically said that black people rely too much on government. I agree so I must be a racist as well.”

We are all racists now.


30 posted on 04/25/2014 8:03:27 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; Tennessee Nana; Liz; La Lydia; NFHale; Impy; GeronL; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy; ...
I found a text version of the end of the Bundy video.

Bundy :
Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know I understand that they come over here against our constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people – and I’ve worked side-by-side a lot of them.
Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structure than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people.
And we need to have those people join us and be with us…. not, not come to our party.

Right on bro! Bundy 2016 ......HAHAHAHA

31 posted on 04/25/2014 8:04:24 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
“He basically said that black people rely too much on government. I agree so I must be a racist as well.”

This guy was a "racist" as well...

“Among a large class, there seemed to be a dependence upon the government for every conceivable thing. The members of this class had little ambition to create a position for themselves, but wanted the federal officials to create one for them. How many times I wished then and have often wished since, that by some power of magic, I might remove the great bulk of these people into the country districts and plant them upon the soil – upon the solid and never deceptive foundation of Mother Nature, where all nations and races that have ever succeeded have gotten their start – a start that at first may be slow and toilsome, but one that nevertheless is real.”

- Booker T Washington, from "Up From Slavery"

32 posted on 04/25/2014 8:05:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: stars & stripes forever
According to Bundy, the IRS has never sent him a tax bill.

That would follow...since the IRS doesn't collect grazing lease rentals. The BLM does. However, I don't know that the BLM even sends a bill to a surface tenant. It may be that the tenant is responsible for payment without billing. Depends on the terms contained in the grazing lease.
33 posted on 04/25/2014 8:06:15 AM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Nachum

Cliven Bundy is not a racist.


34 posted on 04/25/2014 8:08:10 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Da Coyote
Fact is, he’s not.

Agreed. All Bundy did was speak plain English, which is now, appaerently a crime in this country.

35 posted on 04/25/2014 8:11:13 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: NFHale; Jack Hydrazine; Impy; GeronL; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; ...
I got an idea, Bohner is upset that his members oppose an amnesty bill.

He could call it the ‘Bundy immigration reform for those awful nice people’ bill to rally enthusiastic support here for it.
(I bet you that a bunch of those 'awful nice people' without documentation work on his ranch for him too.

HAHAHAHA, supporting time-bombs gets you ....

36 posted on 04/25/2014 8:11:29 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: MrB

Thanks for the update. I was led to believe there are issues of federal land, grazing fees not being paid, etc.

Does the media ever present the facts of a case, or do they just put a liberal spin on things? Do they show us the nuances, or just set it up so that somebody is the good guy, and somebody is the bad guy???


37 posted on 04/25/2014 8:12:41 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (Im)
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To: Grampa Dave

Bundy’s sin is that he’s not a big time democrat.

You can be anything you want, racist, rapist, murderer, child predator as long as you are a big time democrat, you can get away with just about anything. Look at the Clintons, Kennedys, Robert Bird.....


38 posted on 04/25/2014 8:15:09 AM PDT by dragonblustar ( Psalm 103, Psalm 37:7, Ephesians 6:12)
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To: miss marmelstein
That's a smart post. You have helped me sort out my own thoughts on the matter.

Cliven is an old-timer who isn't aware of the current flummeries and fake pieties.

I still don't know what kind of contracts were or were not breached by the feds, and I don't know all what missteps Cliven might have made during the past 20 years.

Nonetheless he has exposed the iron fists behind the girlish kid gloves of Obama and the entire media-bureaucratic perplex that dominates so much of this country.

As if SWAT teams of cattle- and would-be human-killers are somehow sanitized by a cantankerous old cowboy saying Negro.

If I were a conservative candidate asked about this I would say (again and again and again) that I found Cliven's comments just about on par with those of his neighbor and nemesis Harry Reid, but that Harry Reid is a man of power and wealth who is supposed to know better, particularly when speaking of his own President:

N Word? What N Word?

39 posted on 04/25/2014 8:16:04 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Nachum

I don’t either. If one wanted to yell ‘racist’, he need only to look no farther than Eric Holder in his refusal to prosecute black-on-white crimes as hate crimes.

Frankly, they can stick this Bundy-racist meme up their collective a$$es.


40 posted on 04/25/2014 8:23:40 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: sickoflibs; Jack Hydrazine; Tennessee Nana; Liz; La Lydia; Impy; GeronL; Clintonfatigued; ...

“...When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, ..”

Hmmmm .... so, let’s see here ... they only associate with “their own kind”... they spend all their time with “their own kind”... they speak “their own language”... have “their own culture”... and their own traditions....

By the Left’s own definitions (whatever they are today; they change daily) - THEY MUST BE EVIL RACISTS!!!!!


41 posted on 04/25/2014 8:29:33 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: BenLurkin

Who said he’s a racist? Quite a few here on FR.


42 posted on 04/25/2014 8:30:39 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Well, he would have received a bill from the BLM, not the IRS. And, in the same interview when he said that he never saw a bill from the BLM, he also said that he doesn’t open mail from the BLM, so.....


43 posted on 04/25/2014 8:31:24 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: NFHale
RE :”Hmmmm .... so, let’s see here ... they only associate with “their own kind”... they spend all their time with “their own kind”... they speak “their own language”... have “their own culture”... and their own traditions...”

He says he hangs out with them :”You know I understand that they come over here against our constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people – and I’ve worked side-by-side a lot of them.”

44 posted on 04/25/2014 8:35:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: Drew68; Texas resident

Both of you....... WELL put.

Diversion AND the black community needs our help - they just don’t know it, but zippy is using and abusing them beyond anyone ever before. IMHO.


45 posted on 04/25/2014 8:36:48 AM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (Would Winston Churchill stand still for all this nonsense? Cruz our new Churchill?)
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To: Drew68
"When black people change their behavior, I'll change my opinion of them."

While I understand the percentages are very real, it still pays to consider folks as individuals. There are a LOT of good, hard working black people doing the right thing every day just like us, and there are a crap-load of trashy white filth sucking off the system.

I made up this stupid phrase a few years back but I still like it..."trash comes in every color".

46 posted on 04/25/2014 8:38:14 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Pitch black is the new "tranparent.")
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To: Bushbacker1

I qauit listening to Hannity years ago when he kept whining “Doesn’t Obama realize the effect his policies have?”.

Of course he realized their effect; that’s why those were his policies.

And Hannity didn’t understand that.


47 posted on 04/25/2014 8:41:09 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: sickoflibs

But - by the Left’s definition - they’re evil racists.


48 posted on 04/25/2014 8:46:50 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Bushbacker1
I couldn’t get Hannity of my radio fast enough yesterday. He was going friggin’ nuts over what Bundy said. And, to top it all off, he kept repeating “Government gone wild!” I’ve quit listening to Hannity. All he does is repeat, repeat and then repeat!

And Megan made it to be racist. I'm done with both of these idiots. Bundy told the truth and there was nothing racists at all. If these two idiots had got their arses out of the NYT long enough to see what Bundy was telling us. Same thing all of us was saying that the communists Democrats have made millions of black slaves to the Federal Government.

49 posted on 04/25/2014 8:50:46 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Da Coyote

A skilled politician on the GOP side would never be drawn into a race conversation with the NYT. We know they will edit,twist and misquote. The NYT will call any GOP a racist and pick things out of context.

Bundy is a rancher, unwise in thinking he would be given a fair chance to defend himself. Remember the Duck Dynasty and they were used to the media.

It doesn’t matter what Bundy said, Nevada need to get the land back from BLM because

BLM has put all the ranchers out of business
Blm not paying revenue to Nevada that they should have
Blm not using land for economic development and Nevada has a lot of unemployed who need jobs.
BLM is violation property rights and acting like gangsters.


50 posted on 04/25/2014 9:00:10 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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