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Ohio family held at gunpoint by police at Dayton Air Force Museum
wlwt.com ^ | Apr 08, 2014 | WLYT-5

Posted on 04/25/2014 9:49:41 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave

The ordeal lasted for more than an hour. The authorities said they had a report of two people casing cars in the parking lot that would have been Alice, 65, and her 8-year-old grandson Aaron looking at license plates.

Read more: http://www.wlwt.com/news/Ohio-family-held-at-gunpoint-by-police-at-Dayton-Air-Force-Museum/25383150#ixzz2zuuRVHrJ


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
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1 posted on 04/25/2014 9:49:41 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave
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2 posted on 04/25/2014 9:52:04 AM PDT by null and void (...if you are too sure of your place in heaven you might be too arrogant to actually get there.)
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3 posted on 04/25/2014 9:53:19 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (The democRATic party preys on the ignorant..!)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
I remember this story from when it first made the news two weeks ago.

Link.

4 posted on 04/25/2014 9:55:12 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
In 20124, It look like you are betting your life, just going onto government property.
Too bad, the Air Force Museum was the place to go when I was growing up.
5 posted on 04/25/2014 10:03:32 AM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Tupelo

Of course, that should be 2014. Scheesh.


6 posted on 04/25/2014 10:04:13 AM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Aaron is the brains of this criminal enterprise


7 posted on 04/25/2014 10:06:06 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Steely Tom
This little piece was missing from the current story:

"An initial check of the vehicle plates with the National Law Enforcement Terminal System reported the vehicle as stolen,"

puts the police actions in a whole new light. Instead of asking people looking at cars what they are doing, it jumps to likely car thieves casing cars. Although a full check showed that their car wasn't stolen I can understand why they weren't very friendly and it explains why four police officers (three military and one civilian) were there.

And at least no dogs were around to be shot.

8 posted on 04/25/2014 10:07:30 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

he was at the Air Force Museum looking at license plates. On Christmas he ignores the toys and plays with the bubblewrap too.

Creative type I bet


9 posted on 04/25/2014 10:08:37 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Another example of the death of common sense and political correctness. Seeing a grandmother and her grandson walking thorough the parking lot looking at license plates...not looking in cars or trying doors to see if they were unlocked.. would in a common sense world not be any cause for alarm. However some young punks going through the parking lot looking into cars and trying doors to see if they were locked would be a concern. This is common sense.

The police stop with guns drawn is bizarre and could have easily turned tragic. Couldn't an officer just stopped them and asked to see identification or simply asked them about looking at license plates? I thought that in the US there was a presumption of innocence. This poor woman and her family were treated like they had brandished guns, were identified as robbery suspects or implicated in some other serious criminal act. This is police overreaction and with some common sense should never have happened.

10 posted on 04/25/2014 10:09:06 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Las Vegas Dave

The dayton air force museum has a collection of stuff that rivals air and space museum in Washington dc.

They have full scale b-52, f22, b29, b24, spitfires, etc. in the hangars and it is not that crowded.

It is also the permanent home of the Doolittle gobblets as the last toast was given last year at the Dayton museum with the three surviving Doolittle raiders.


11 posted on 04/25/2014 10:14:11 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: The Great RJ
The police stop with guns drawn is bizarre and could have easily turned tragic. Couldn't an officer just stopped them and asked to see identification or simply asked them about looking at license plates? I thought that in the US there was a presumption of innocence.

I think you live in the same 1950s snow globe that I do. I'll keep my eye open for you next time I head down to the Rexall soda fountain.

12 posted on 04/25/2014 10:41:46 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: staytrue
They have full scale b-52, f22, b29, b24, spitfires, etc. in the hangars and it is not that crowded.

And a B17 cutaway fuselage...and Little Boy & Fat Man.

13 posted on 04/25/2014 10:42:57 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

...and Little Boy & Fat Man.

14 posted on 04/25/2014 10:52:59 AM PDT by TomServo
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To: GeronL

My grandson wants to go to Europe and design cars after he graduates from college. We often stop at local car lots on weekends just to see what’s there and sometimes he gets a tape measure and pad and pencil out if he sees a car whose design appeals to him and he wants to draw a picture and jot down dimensions.

Have had police stop on occasion to see what we were doing but never been threatened, harassed or arrested. More often than not my grandson engages the guy in conversation about cars. Did have one though that did say our actions would more than likely arouse suspicions, warned us to be careful and suggested that we confine our visits to times when the dealership was open.


15 posted on 04/25/2014 11:03:24 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Welcome to Amerika.


16 posted on 04/25/2014 11:11:24 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: The Great RJ

Here is an experiment you can try at home. Report your own car has been stolen so your license plate gets into the database of stolen vehicles. Wait a few days and then blow through a stop sign in front of one of your local cops, and see what kind of response you get.

Confirmed report of a stolen vehicle will result in a high risk stop, which means guns drawn, in any jurisdiction in the country.


17 posted on 04/25/2014 11:41:03 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slavee)
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To: The Great RJ

Read the article.

They were driving around the lot looking at all the cars. That got their license plate called in. The report back from the database that the vehicle was stolen is what got them stopped.

If that doesn’t work for you, feel free to make up any fact pattern you want to make your point.


18 posted on 04/25/2014 11:46:10 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slavee)
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To: staytrue
They have full scale b-52, f22, b29, b24, spitfires, etc. in the hangars and it is not that crowded.

When I was there (25 years ago) they had a SR-71 and a full Saturn 5.

Those are things you just don’t see every day at a museum.

19 posted on 04/25/2014 12:10:17 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: TomServo
Little Boy & Fat Man.

More like Fat Boy and Fat Head.

20 posted on 04/25/2014 12:11:49 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: TomServo
Booyah! Good one.

If I weren't at work (and didn't have to pretend at being productive) I'd fire up Photoshop and pop those two bobble heads on top of the genuine articles.

21 posted on 04/25/2014 12:36:24 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Although a full check showed that their car wasn't stolen I can understand why they weren't very friendly and it explains why four police officers (three military and one civilian) were there.

Another possible explanation: These cops may have been affirmative action hires, not on the basis of race but of intelligence.


22 posted on 04/25/2014 1:14:10 PM PDT by caveat emptor (!)
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To: staytrue; Pontiac

Last time I was at the USAF museum was 30+ years ago.

And one other visit for the Dayton Air Show, great show that was when the STELTH was shown to the public. (Interesting feeling seeing the plane surrounded with USAF guardsmen and rifles in hand.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQu8EkAILBM

(and an accident with that plane, F117 Stealth Jet Crash )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X2wYvr20nAg


23 posted on 04/26/2014 4:32:17 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (The democRATic party preys on the ignorant..!)
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To: staytrue

My Dad’s picture is on a wall there! Or, it was.

Last time I went (2002) they’d torn up a big chunk to install a Holocaust exhibit.


24 posted on 04/26/2014 1:58:00 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (On the wrong side of history.)
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