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Hillary Clinton: Edward Snowden's Leaks Helped Terrorists
National Journal ^ | April 25, 2014 | Emma Roller

Posted on 04/25/2014 1:39:27 PM PDT by upchuck

She is "puzzled" and found it "odd" that Snowden fled the country.

Speaking at the University of Connecticut on Wednesday night, Hillary Clinton made a restrained but nonetheless damning attack against Edward Snowden.

At the event, an interviewer asked Clinton whether she thought the former National Security Agency contractor's disclosures about its domestic spying programs had any positive effects on American security policy or public discourse.

Without ever explicitly mentioning the NSA's spying programs, Clinton justified their utility in protecting the U.S. from another terrorist attack in the wake of 9/11.

"People were desperate to avoid another attack, and I saw enough intelligence as a senator from New York, and then certainly as secretary [of State], that this is a constant—there are people right this minute trying to figure out how to do harm to Americans and to other innocent people," Clinton said. "So it was a debate that needs to happen, so that we make sure that we're not infringing on Americans' privacy, which is a valued, cherished personal belief that we have. But we also had to figure out how to get the right amount of security."

As for Snowden's role in exposing the NSA programs, Clinton insinuated that she found his motives suspicious.

"When he emerged and when he absconded with all that material, I was puzzled because we have all these protections for whistle-blowers. If he were concerned and wanted to be part of the American debate, he could have been," she said. "But it struck me as—I just have to be honest with you—as sort of odd that he would flee to China, because Hong Kong is controlled by China, and that he would then go to Russia—two countries with which we have very difficult cyberrelationships, to put it mildly."

Let's take a moment to parse Clinton's language here. She didn't call Snowden a traitor, or plainly say that him leaving the country made her suspicious. In American politics, it's never good to come right out and accuse someone of wrongdoing—you can just say you're "confused" or "puzzled" by their actions. In the same way, "odd" or "strange" often serve as semantic placeholders for "bad." Just ask Rep. Paul Ryan, who abruptly ended a television interview in 2012 after an unwelcome remark about tax cuts, then told his interviewer, "That was kind of strange. You trying to stuff words in people's mouths?"

Clinton stressed the strangeness of Snowden's decision to flee to countries that have perpetrated cyberattacks against the U.S. She noted that when State Department officials would travel to Russia or China on diplomatic business, they would leave their cell phones aboard the plane with their batteries taken out. "It's not like the only government in the world doing anything is the United States," she said.

"I think turning over a lot of that material—intentionally or unintentionally—drained, gave all kinds of information, not only to big countries, but to networks and terrorist groups and the like. So I have a hard time thinking that somebody who is a champion of privacy and liberty has taken refuge in Russia, under Putin's authority."

With sarcasm creeping into her voice, Clinton implied that Snowden acted all too friendly toward Vladimir Putin, whose country has been harboring Snowden since last August.

"And then he calls in to a Putin talk show and says, 'President Putin, do you spy on people?' And President Putin says, 'Well, from one intelligence professional to another, of course not.' 'Oh, thank you so much!' I mean really. I don't know, I have a hard time following it."

It will be interesting to contrast Clinton's remarks with Sen. Rand Paul's when he speaks at Harvard University on Friday afternoon. In all likelihood, he'll rehash the same jokes he made when he spoke at Berkeley in March about the NSA listening in on his cell-phone conversations. Meanwhile, Bill Clinton has called Snowden an "imperfect messenger" for bringing the debate about privacy versus national security to the fore.

Both Hillary Clinton and Paul are trying to win over college students to their philosophy. If applause decibels are any indication, though, students favor lionizing the whistle-blower over shaming him.


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Hillary: When he emerged and when he absconded with all that material, I was puzzled because we have all these protections for whistle-blowers.

Hill, yer a riot. Ya mean whistleblowers like Vince Foster?

Hillary:So I have a hard time thinking that somebody who is a champion of privacy and liberty has taken refuge in Russia, under Putin's authority.

Oh stop, please. My side is hurting from laughing so hard. Obviously, Snowden trusts Putin more than nobama. And you find this troubling? Why?

1 posted on 04/25/2014 1:39:27 PM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck

Didn’t Hillary help them in Benghazi?


2 posted on 04/25/2014 1:41:25 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: upchuck

More than Hillary, Huma, Obama and McCain giving
al Qaeda 20,000 MANPADs to take out 20,000 commercial
airplanes?

More than WHOEVER let in the Boston terrorists without
a passport —AFTER WARNINGS?

More than Fast&Furious?

I think not.


3 posted on 04/25/2014 1:41:27 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: upchuck

Expert deflection and more stealth then the billion dollar bomber. Anything to take the spotlight off her role as Sec of State.


4 posted on 04/25/2014 1:42:06 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: upchuck

Hey HILLARY did not protecting our embassy help terrorists?? Yea I
thought so CRICKETS!!!


5 posted on 04/25/2014 1:42:18 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: upchuck

So are millions od Americans terrorists?

It was their private communications which were and are being swept up by your trawling nets.

GFY


6 posted on 04/25/2014 1:42:32 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: upchuck

Your husband did even more Hillary!


7 posted on 04/25/2014 1:44:42 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conseravtives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: upchuck

Not unlike selling them Manpads off the books. Like in Benghazi...


8 posted on 04/25/2014 1:45:33 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: upchuck
That's a pretty heavy duty charge HilLIARy... can you be specific?

Because from where I am sitting he helped Americans learn their government was spying on THEM, and the spying the NSA was doing did not even help them stop the Boston Bombers.

I've said it before... The type of data the NSA is collection is useless in bulk like that- there is not enough time and not enough resources to go through it to find anything useful

But...AFTER something happens, like say you piss of a Democrat President, they can GO BACK and look at everything you did to see what they have on you.

9 posted on 04/25/2014 1:48:55 PM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: upchuck

I’m ‘puzzled’ why our ambassador in Benghazi didn’t have the protection he needed, and I find it ‘strange’ that no one sent help when they were being killed...


10 posted on 04/25/2014 1:51:48 PM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: upchuck

I thought helping terrorists was a good thing to Marxists? This from the SOS who helped the Mooselip Brotherhood.

Pray America wakes up


11 posted on 04/25/2014 1:51:49 PM PDT by bray (The Republic of Texas 2022 is here)
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To: upchuck
"...there are people right this minute trying to figure out how to do harm to Americans and to other innocent people," Clinton said.

No sh!t, HILLARY.

12 posted on 04/25/2014 1:52:47 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker
...there are people right this minute trying to figure out how to do harm to Americans and to other innocent people,"

Some of them live in the White House.

13 posted on 04/25/2014 1:55:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: upchuck

What’s your point?

Your husband’s leaks helped the Chinese.


14 posted on 04/25/2014 1:56:53 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: upchuck

Uhhh, yeah. Snowden let them have those 400 MANPAD missiles. Uh-huh. That was a serious blunder on his part. Right, Hill?


15 posted on 04/25/2014 1:58:15 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Kit cat

You have to think liberalspeak here; “Terrorists” now equals American Patriots.So yes Snowden uncovered much of the truth on how much spying the U.S. government has been doing on its own citizens without probable cause or a warrant.


16 posted on 04/25/2014 1:59:00 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: upchuck

Edward Snowden is a Soviet Agent, just as 0bama is a Soviet Agent. Do the math. Where did 0bama’s parents meet? RUSSIAN LANGUAGE CLASS. Where did Snowden escape to? RUSSIA! And he abandoned his VERY RUSSIAN LOOKING balarina girlfriend, too!


17 posted on 04/25/2014 2:00:11 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: sickoflibs
Didn’t Hillary help them in Benghazi?

Exactly! For the last five years the resident and his minions have been doing their damndest to aid and abet Americas enemies. And after the reign of of one communist ends we are supposed to seat another in the White House?

18 posted on 04/25/2014 2:00:47 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: upchuck
Hillary Clinton: Edward Snowden's Leaks Helped Terrorists

Going to fix this....

Hillary Clinton: Edward Snowden's Leaks Helped "Tea Party" Terrorists By Exposing Government Spying on Citizens and exposing us to look like the control freaks we are.

19 posted on 04/25/2014 2:02:09 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: upchuck

Isn’t it funny that the memos recently came out reguarding the clintons hate of the independent internet news sources......?


20 posted on 04/25/2014 2:03:42 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: jsanders2001

Hillary found it “odd” that Snowden fled the country after he revealed to everyone that our government is deeply involved on surveilling its own citizens more than it is terrorists? She says that after Benghazi, Breibart, Fuddy and all of 0’s alleged former gay lovers end up dead (among so many others). Is she stupid?...lol

Well hell yeah, he left before they could dart him, run his car into a traffic pole, or put a bullet in his head with a suicide note next to him. Its what you call being “smart”.


21 posted on 04/25/2014 2:11:03 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Maybe he got a message to meet at Ft Marcy Park.


22 posted on 04/25/2014 2:12:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: sickoflibs

Whitewatergate
FBI Filegate
Rose LawFirmgate
Travelgate
Fostergate

These are just those I remember. A great book I read when these goons polluted the oval office, “Unlimited Access”. Great read.

Think the FBI fella’s name that wrote it was Gary Aldrech...something like that. 30yr FBI man resigned from White House detail because he couldn’t stand the corruption and desecration in and of the office.

Crooks...the whole lot of’em.


23 posted on 04/25/2014 2:32:05 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

Benghazigate


24 posted on 04/25/2014 2:33:23 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

I am “puzzled” by and find it “odd” that incompetent degenerates like this dried-up, dishonest, ethically-challenged, self-centered, alcoholic criminal can be wealthy and can be given any position of responsibility or authority. This subhuman scum should just fade away. She is tiresome. Preferably, she will go to prison for here numerous crimes. What a waste of space and air. Her family are all commie creeps.


25 posted on 04/25/2014 4:25:05 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

No argument here, it looks like you have it covered.


26 posted on 04/25/2014 4:41:53 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: upchuck

You did, too, Hillary. Your help got 4 Americans dead.


27 posted on 04/25/2014 4:50:09 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: sickoflibs
Didn’t Hillary help them in Benghazi?

What's that got to do with anything. Surely you are capable of understanding that it's a whole different set of rules when a Secretary of State or a President aids and abets the terrorists......

Let me help you with a key point: Snowden also helped the American People by letting us know that more of what we suspected is true - the government does "have it in for us" and is breaking all sorts of Constitutional laws and restraints.....

Hope that cleared up the difference.

28 posted on 04/26/2014 2:19:38 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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