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Immigration, America’s Advantage
National Review Online ^ | APRIL 25, 2014 | Lee Habeeb and Mike Leven

Posted on 04/25/2014 1:41:24 PM PDT by Monmouth78

We know that we’re not going to deport all of these people. Why we’re waiting so long to make these de facto citizens legal makes no political sense.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; h1b; immigration; nationalreview; neocons
This is what National Review has come to.
1 posted on 04/25/2014 1:41:24 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Monmouth78
That reminds me :

Bundy on immigration:
Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know I understand that they come over here against our constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people – and I’ve worked side-by-side a lot of them.
Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structure than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people.
And we need to have those people join us and be with us…. not, not come to our party.

2 posted on 04/25/2014 1:43:33 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: Monmouth78

Lee and Mike:

We need to take a time-out to this head long rush to cultural and societal suicide.

The old blue print of a hundred-plus years ago no longer works to Americanize the heathens we bring into our midst’s.

And, they are heathens, until they become American.


3 posted on 04/25/2014 1:45:38 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: Monmouth78

“Why we’re waiting so long to make these de facto citizens legal makes no political sense... unless we don’t want the Democrats to become the sole ruling political party in the USA analogous to the Communist Party in China.


4 posted on 04/25/2014 1:45:47 PM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Monmouth78

This article and its authors are insane.

But, the entire republican gang is dead set on amnesty, so it will happen.

There is no opposition party on this issue. The problem here is that this position is really a position on “ending America” for good.

Adios, amigos. We better start something of our own nation sometime soon!


5 posted on 04/25/2014 1:47:15 PM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (I don't even know what to say anymore...)
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To: x1stcav

I don’t think Lee and Mike want America as we know it to survive. They see our suicide as their victory.


6 posted on 04/25/2014 1:48:43 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Monmouth78

National Review. RINO Review.

The article is just insane.

“We know that we’re not going to deport all of these people. Why we’re waiting so long to make these de facto citizens legal makes no political sense.”

Elect me President and see how long it takes to get deportation started.


7 posted on 04/25/2014 1:50:23 PM PDT by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: Monmouth78

Illegals are not de facto citizens, they are de facto residents.

Citizens can vote. Citizens cannot be deported for committing felonies. Citizens can more easily and legally bring relatives here. No, we should not make these criminals citizens. I have no problem with legal immigration, which we should expand to the point that there is no room for illegals to come as criminals, but crime should never be rewarded.


8 posted on 04/25/2014 1:53:03 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Teddy got Reagan to pass immigration reform, which lead the the death of the Republicans in California. For democrats, this is only about turning Texas blue and killing off the republican party in the rest of the US.


9 posted on 04/25/2014 1:54:31 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Monmouth78
I don’t think Lee and Mike want America as we know it to survive. They see our suicide as their victory.

The entire country could look like a scene from Escape From New York and folks like these writers would be tickled pink as long as the DOW keeps climbing.

10 posted on 04/25/2014 1:55:48 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
You are correct. Amnesty will declare to the world that the dying USA will never again enforce immigration laws.

The country no longer sees any point in setting itself apart from the third world, because it is happily sliding itself into third-world status.

11 posted on 04/25/2014 1:58:53 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Monmouth78

They are not citizens, de facto or any other kind. They are ILLEGAL!!! In any country but the USSA they would have been sent off as soon as they surfaced. Obama and Holder are committing a CRIMINAL act by not enforcing the law.


12 posted on 04/25/2014 2:03:39 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Pollster1
No we should not expand legal immigration. At least not from the third world. Legal third world immigrants vote for leftists and replicate their failed societies here.

Muslim immigrants mostly come here legally. We sure as hell don't need even more of that poision.

13 posted on 04/25/2014 2:04:56 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Monmouth78
We don't have to deport them.

Just stop giving them jobs and free stuff.

The rest will take care of itself.

14 posted on 04/25/2014 2:08:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

The comments made by “Jeb” Bush and Boehner are pretty lame and transparently self-serving.

But you DO need PEOPLE to run a country.

As long as native American females feel its a “right” to terminate the lives of their own babies, and as long as the majority of them have been convinced that a “career” should superceed reproductive responsibilities, and as long as native American males feel life should be a smorgasboard of sexual encounters with no real ties to the women and children involved, they cannot keep pace with the mortality rate.

And so, where are the replacements to come from? Perhaps we are faced with the BEST alternative - Latin Americans, Chinese and Japanese immigrants.

In Europe, they are faced with lunatic Muslims.

And as for contemporary Europeans who feel that they should be able to work a 30 hour work week, get cradle to grave benefits, have three months a year off for vacation and retire at 50, we can do without them also.


15 posted on 04/25/2014 2:09:07 PM PDT by ZULU (STOP JEB BUSH!!!! NO MORE BUSHES!! US OUT OF THE UN AND UN OUT OF US!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

And by all means make sure our citizens become enthusiastic about picking crops, slaughtering chickens, etc. and all those other lovely jobs currently held by immigrants. Plus insist that the businesses pay high enough salaries so that our citizens will take the jobs, and enable all of us to pay more for the food we now enjoy relatively cheaply. Do that and indeed the rest will take care of itself. Hope you like it.


16 posted on 04/25/2014 2:15:26 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: JT Hatter

I’m going to be posting more NR so Freepers can see just how bad it has become. One of their editors attacked the invaluable Mark Steyn recently for the sin of “homophobia.”

They lost the plot years ago, but lately, the ridiculousness of it has been coming into sharper relief.

One would think that NR would have rallied to the Tea Party. But they are maintaining a strained “neutrality,” refusing to side against the establishment. Generally, they try to avoid controversial issues and run a lot of puff pieces on establishment “personalities.”

It’s getting more and more like a bad college paper.


17 posted on 04/25/2014 2:15:27 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: ZULU
And so, where are the replacements to come from? Perhaps we are faced with the BEST alternative - Latin Americans, Chinese and Japanese immigrants.

Who needs replacements?

The decadent career women and men will eventually die off and the "good" ones left can re-populate the USA in 2-3 generations.

White Liberals will go extinct on their own, why replace them with their Brown equivalents?

18 posted on 04/25/2014 2:19:18 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Monmouth78

They looked at the plummeting violent crime rates in Los Angeles as illegals began displacing blacks starting in the early 90’s. They decided to take this low-budget urban renewal program national regardless of its effects on smaller cities (ex: Palmdale, CA) - because the “people who matter” don’t live there, anyway. They don’t dare name their plan accurately, however, so we instead hear talk of “hard work” and “uniting families” and “compassion.”


19 posted on 04/25/2014 2:29:31 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: Monmouth78

Please keep posting NRO articles. I stopped reading NRO a while back because, well...they’re NRO and that means “compassionate conservative” mentality. They’re the news magazine for Jeb Bush and John McCain admirers.

When they blasted John Derbyshire, and called him a racist, for his excellent article about “The Talk” (http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire#axzz1rJPlABLB) in Taki’s Magazine —and fired him for it — that was enough for me. Rich Lowry is an effete, smug, intolerant scumbag. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295514/parting-ways-rich-lowry

What this nation does not need is politically correct Republicans.

J.T.


20 posted on 04/25/2014 2:51:11 PM PDT by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
We don't have to deport them.

Just stop giving them jobs and free stuff.

The rest will take care of itself.


Exactly. I'm so sick of this "you can't deport them all" argument. You just stop making them welcome. Stop letting them claim EITC and child credits. When you run into one, you deport that one. Pretty soon, they will figure out this grass is not greener.
21 posted on 04/25/2014 3:01:36 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

That’s an astute observation. The same thing has happened in NYC, as high crime black Americans are replaced by a host of lower crime immigrant groups: Chinese, Mexicans, Indians, West Indians etc.

At the same time, crime in Newark, Trenton, Camden and many smaller cities in upstate NY, Western Mass. and Eastern PA are through the roof.


22 posted on 04/25/2014 3:12:42 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Monmouth78

Hell, Ike did it!

Remember OPERATION WETBACK??

Four million of ‘em. Since when can’t WE??


23 posted on 04/25/2014 3:26:54 PM PDT by Flintlock (islam is a LIE, mohammmud a CRIMINAL, sharia is POISON!)
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To: Monmouth78

National Review joined the leftist enemy camp long ago. I give no more credibility to NR than I do to the fascist Politico. We are burdened with traitors from the Washington media. NR is infested with homo-loving neo-cons who care more about what their fascist, purse-carrying masters think at the Washington Post than fighting for liberty.

National Review = Wimps R Us.


24 posted on 04/25/2014 3:49:50 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Monmouth78
The biggest mistake we made was giving these wealthy supposedly Republican rich big tax breaks. Now look at them. They are conservative only when it comes to their pocket book. Big big big mistake. Surely no one here doesn't believe that rich Dem's shouldn't pay their taxes well after this the country clubbers should pay their was as well.
25 posted on 04/25/2014 3:55:15 PM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is a feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing corksucker.)
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To: Monmouth78

The NRO has become a Amnesty Porn site.

Please note the concerned writer is a Mob stooge at the Sands in Vegas.


26 posted on 04/25/2014 3:55:19 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Bingo we have a winner.

Have ya notice all the Amnesty porn pieces are being spit out by the K Street PR firms this week !


27 posted on 04/25/2014 3:58:37 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: gleeaikin
I know! I know! You're a member of the US Chamber of Crony-Fascists!

I'm right, aren't I?

The jobs will pay whatever is required to get people to work in them, and the price of the products will rise or fall to reflect it. It's called "supply and demand." Ever hear of it? Or do you think that you should be exempt from it?

Stop making welfare and unemployment benefits last in perpetuity, and people will take those jobs.

The only reason they don't take them now is because they can earn more money collecting transfer payments.

28 posted on 04/25/2014 4:20:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Monmouth78

Crime pays! Just ask any trespassing foreign national. Bring a translator.


29 posted on 04/25/2014 4:35:26 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: ncalburt

They really believe that congressional resistance is only temporary. Regardless of what the citizens want, I fear amnesty is going to happen.


30 posted on 04/25/2014 4:42:15 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Monmouth78

If we weren’t still encouraging illegal entrance, and illegal activity, we probably could come to an agreement about some of these people who are already here.

But you’ve got a crowded theater with paying customers stuck outside the proper entrance because the seats are full, and there are people walking in through the emergency exits and standing on the stairs, and the pro-immigrant crowd is arguing about whether the folks who previously came through the emergency exits and took someone’s popcorn and are now sitting in the center of a row should be allowed to stay because it is just too hard to make everybody stand up to get them out of the row.


31 posted on 04/25/2014 8:32:20 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Monmouth78
"LEGAL Immigration, America’s Advantage"

Badly needed fix.

32 posted on 04/25/2014 8:33:16 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

Illegal immigrants don’t get welfare and unemployment benefits. It will be interesting to see what has happened to the one million plus unemployed who lost their benefits a few months ago. That should illustrate something. Don’t know what at this point. Also, I believe this post was about immigration’s impact, not unemployment or welfare.


33 posted on 04/25/2014 9:43:39 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: CharlesWayneCT; All

I just heard about reports that Mexican illegals who are trying to go back to Mexico are being arrested at the border and jailed even if they carry no contraband or large chunks of cash. Why are we taxpayers being asked to pay for jail time so the Prison Industrial Complex can make more money? I thought we favored self deportation. Anyone have more info on this?


34 posted on 04/25/2014 9:51:47 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
And you implied that if we didn't legalize 30,000,000 criminals that we would have no one to clean our bathrooms and gut our chickens.

And I implied that you were a member of the US Chamber of Crony-Fascists, whose only concern is getting to pay people under the table.

35 posted on 04/26/2014 8:14:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: gleeaikin
Illegal immigrants don’t get welfare and unemployment benefits.

They don't vote either. Honest.

36 posted on 04/26/2014 8:21:06 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: gleeaikin
Illegal immigrants don’t get welfare and unemployment benefits.

And they don't piggy-back onto the SSNs of actual citizens either. Honest.

37 posted on 04/26/2014 8:31:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Depending on the jurisdiction, illegal aliens get all sorts of benefits and money. Illegal aliens should have their property seized, be arrested and deported. If they return illegally, they should be placed in solitary confinement for a extended period before being deported.


38 posted on 04/26/2014 8:44:58 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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