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This Black Does Not Think Bundy is Racist
The American Thinker ^ | April 26, 2014 | Lloyd Marcus

Posted on 04/26/2014 12:54:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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.....Any decent, fair-minded human being would understand that Bundy was condemning the slavery of government dependency in his comments regarding negros. The elderly gentleman is a rancher who is not media-savvy, nor is he schooled in the nuances of political correctness.

The left are not decent human beings. Their bully minions went on high alert, viciously in pursuit of a “gotcha” comment to squelch Bundy's proven leadership and ability to inspire millions to push back against the Obama regime.

Prominent conservatives running for the tall grass to get away from or running to microphones to denounce Bundy is testimony to their fear of the left's high-tech lynching machine. It truly sickens me.

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Democrats and liberal media, I trump your race card against Bundy with my Truth & Righteousness card. You lose! Go peddle your despicable, divisive, and evil crap elsewhere.

I am a black conservative whose admiration and respect for Cliven Bundy remains unwavering. Mr. Bundy, I along with millions of good, decent Americans have your back. Hang in there, my patriot brother. God bless.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bundy; democraticparty; innercityslavery; racebaiting; racism
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1 posted on 04/26/2014 12:54:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Black Bundy Bodyguard: He's Not A Racist; "I'd Take A Bullet For That Man"

"...........CNN REPORTER: But aren't those offensive comments to you

BULLOCK: Not at all.

CNN REPORTER: Not offensive?

BULLOCK: Because Mr. Bundy is not a racist. Ever since I've been here he's treated me with nothing but hospitality. He's pretty much treated me like his own family.

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BULLOCK: I would take a bullet for that man, if need be. I look up to him just like I do my own grandfather.

CNN REPORTER: Why?............."

2 posted on 04/26/2014 12:59:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Unedited Tape of Bundy Emerges, Sheds Light on 'Racist' Remarks "A new, unedited version of comments by Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy has emerged, and it sheds some light on the context of his remarks, universally condemned on Thursday as horrifically racist.

The 67-year-old Bundy, battling the U.S. government after federal agents stormed his ranch to confiscate his cattle in a dispute over grazing fees, said far more than what appeared in the New York Times and most other news accounts. While his grammar is pretty bad -- and his use of "negro" and "colored" considered politically incorrect (although they were both once preferred terms chosen by blacks) -- he actually was making a larger point, not simply deriding blacks.

In a YouTube video, he is filmed already in mid-sentence.

... and so what I've testified to you -- I was in the Watts riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen that last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people are thinking they don't have their freedoms, they didn't have these things, and they didn't have them.

We've progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don't want to go back. We sure don't want the colored people to go back to that point. We sure don't want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.

Those comments appear to change the context of the next section, which was quoted in the New York Times. One clear point the rancher made: America has progressed since the 1965 race riots and "we sure don't want to go back."

Here are the heavily quoted comments from Bundy that followed the above section edited out by most news organizations...................."

3 posted on 04/26/2014 1:03:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bttt


4 posted on 04/26/2014 1:16:06 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Guenevere

Even the [sadly] uninformed defend Bundy’s right to equal justice, and for good reason.

“.........I’m not sure terms like “left” or “right” are very useful here: Communism is assumed to be “left-wing” and Nazism “right-wing”, and my former colleague Jonah Goldberg has written an entire book on that, named for a coinage of H G Wells’: “liberal fascism”. But on the matter of “tolerant” “centrist” fascism: In the Twentieth Century, a nation of great beauty and culture embraced Fascism, and a backward peasant society embraced Communism, and the most evolved civilization in Europe embraced Nazism. And observers still wonder why the great anglophone democracies were almost alone in not going down this path. I think the reason’s simpler than it seems: No one - Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Franco - had devised a form of totalitarianism appealing enough to seduce them. Now they have. As the Bundy example illustrates, a free people will cheerfully abandon bedrock principles like equality before the law if state power is being used to torment a racist or a homophobe or someone whose very presence offends against the citizenry’s sense of its own virtue. Whether or not this is a middle-of-the-road fascism, it’s certainly a very flattering strain: what, after all, is wrong with benign despotism in the cause of preventing “climate change” or transphobia - or ensuring that Nevada’s desert tortoise has an area the size of the United Kingdom to gambol and frolic in?”....

http://www.steynonline.com/6293/how-now-white-cowman


5 posted on 04/26/2014 1:19:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All

http://appalachianforums.com/forums/Dickenson_County,_Virginia.pl/md/read/id/272643

“..............The media distorts information to the point of social division. This is a photo of myself and the resilient, often charismatic, and maybe not so tactful Cliven Bundy. He’s a cowboy and a helluva family man, not an orator. One thing he definitely isn’t – a racist. I found his comments to not only be NOT racist, but his own view of his experiences. Who the heck are we to determine another man’s perspective on the world around him?! Just because Picasso’s view of the world was abstract, does it negate the fact that his art was genuine? Furthermore, if you take the time to do your own research, you’ll find that his statements about some black Americans actually hold weight. He posed a hypothetical question. He said, “I wonder IF” … Hell, I’m black and I often wonder about the same about the decline of the black family. Bottom line is that we are all slaves in this waning republic, no matter our skin color. Mr. Bundy could have used any racial demographic as an example: Native Americans on reservations, whites in trailer parks, etc. He noticed the crippling effects of receiving government “assistance” and the long term result of accepting handouts. It’s not progress at all. I challenge Sean Hannity, Rand Paul, and others to read my comment and reconsider their position in this matter. Individual liberties are at stake here, yours and mine. THAT is the issue. Don’t let the liberal media and ignoramuses like Glenn Beck and that weasel Harry Reid make you lose sight of the real issue here: The federal government is a burgeoning behemoth and a bully on a once constitutional playground.I sincerely hope you real patriots out there who can see through the smoke.”..............


6 posted on 04/26/2014 1:32:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If ‘they’ can define ( & therefore feel justified in demonizing) Cliven Bundy....as racist (or fill in the blank)......’they’ can marginalize him.

If they can do this to him unheeded, ‘they’ can do it to any one of us.


7 posted on 04/26/2014 1:36:34 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Prominent conservatives running for the tall grass to get away from or running to microphones to denounce Bundy is testimony to their fear of the left's high-tech lynching machine. It truly sickens me.

One must deal with reality as it is, not as one wants it to be. Were I a white conservative, I'd denounce Bundy too. I'd do it for expediency, I'd do it for sheer survival. There are not only careers at stake, but the future of the movement hinges on learning to not tilt at windmills.
His quaint unsophistication may be endearing but it's toxic in today's environment.

Frankly, I never cared for MLK or his movement and I find his deification incomprehensible and abhorrent. However, if I needed allies I would never state it publicly as it would force everyone from my side simply because anything else would be political suicide.

If Cliven Bundy can't learn to navigate the minefield that is the current media climate, he needs to learn to keep quiet. Fair? Hell no! Who said life is fair?

8 posted on 04/26/2014 1:42:42 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Lloyd you are one awesome Freeper


9 posted on 04/26/2014 1:43:38 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Guenevere
If they can do this to him unheeded, ‘they’ can do it to any one of us.

And with the help of so-called conservative pundits and politicians. Their fast flight away from Bundy gives me pause and I wonder why they championed him at all, if they so readily flinch at the Left's character assassination instead of pointing out the hypocrisy and malice of the Left..

Stalwart, "foxhole" companions are thinning.

10 posted on 04/26/2014 1:46:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: stormhill
..........His quaint unsophistication may be endearing but it's toxic in today's environment........

Well, soon all us "quaint" Americans will be dead and buried; then conventional wisdom and politically correct speech will be free to pave the unobstructed roadway to slavery.

11 posted on 04/26/2014 1:52:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: stormhill

It is despicable what the conservative media have done to this man. ‘Learn to navigate the minefield’? So, he has to learn to back peddle and be slick or they throw him under the bus? Liberals do this, not conservatives. I find what Hannity, Loesch, FOX and others have done to him to be weasel crap. Don’t even get me started on Rand Paul. I’m a white conservative and I don’t intend to denounce him for ‘expediency’. That is ridiculous and it’s exactly what liberals do. Not me.


12 posted on 04/26/2014 1:55:50 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: ReneeLynn; stormhill; All
You are correct.

"...........The brilliant French philosopher and journalist Jean-François Revel spent his life warning Americans and Europeans of the tremendous power of the left's creative discourse on compassion and social justice. In books such as The Totalitarian Temptation, How Democracies Perish, and Last Exit to Utopia Revel collected a mountain of evidence in order to paint a very modern picture of a very old but successful, and enduring, leftist strategy:

The Left's winning strategy [is] to make [conservatives] fear the consequences of their own devotion to their philosophy, and to pressure them to abjure it altogether."

................. The Education of the Compassionate Conservative

13 posted on 04/26/2014 2:06:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bundy got Zimmerized.


14 posted on 04/26/2014 2:07:59 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I am without words for the conservative media’s abandoning this man. People who should know better and do better have run away from him. It’s despicable.


15 posted on 04/26/2014 2:11:26 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It's up to each to decide what hill to die on.
I wouldn't expect others to slit their own throats for my naïveté just to prove they're pure in heart.

There's a lot of work to be done; there are layers of tyranny that have to be lifted going back before FDR. It's simply not reasonable to ignore the present constraints and immolate ourselves over someone who can't see the world as it is.

16 posted on 04/26/2014 2:11:40 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: stormhill
....If Cliven Bundy can't learn to navigate the minefield that is the current media climate, he needs to learn to keep quiet. Fair? Hell no! Who said life is fair?

Navigate this:

"Syndicalism is a type of economic system proposed as a replacement for capitalism, which proposes that industries be organised into confederations or syndicates. It is a form of communism and economic corporatism that advocates interest aggregation of multiple non-competitive categorised units composed of specialists and representatives of workers in each respective field to negotiate and manage an economy. Syndicalism also refers to the political movement and tactics used to bring about this type of system....." 500 LINKS to more links of the Democrat Superstructure

17 posted on 04/26/2014 2:14:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They know a label of racist or racism stops you dead in your tracks. Soon calling them black will be on the list or before you describe them you may have to ask them what they would like to be called


18 posted on 04/26/2014 2:20:07 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: ronnie raygun

They’ve compiled a list (and add to it all the time) of what they call “dog whistle” words, terms and/or inferences. The idea is to totally shut down any discussion, stop any response to their march on our liberty. By conservatives running from this fight, these “labeling” tactics win another “piece of our liberty” for the Left. By running from this fight, we signal to anyone who steps forward to take a stand, that they will stand naked and alone in their fight.


19 posted on 04/26/2014 2:41:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
When Rush Limbaugh came to the NY market he counseled Bob Grant to moderate his tone; not his principles, mind you, but only his tone. Bob vociferously rejected this and publicly asserted his intention to continue talking any way he chose.
You may or not think this is laudable but what I observed is that his career fizzled and his voice all but silenced while Rush went on to become a national figure, the face of Conservatism and "the Majority Maker."

If you persuade me that Limbaugh is not good for the movement, I'll concede on the right's treatment of Bundy.

20 posted on 04/26/2014 2:41:29 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: stormhill
Rancher Bundy is NOT a talk radio host.

Rancher Bundy fired up middle America (blue collar Americans), non-elite plain-spoken Americans who know that they are under assault by Big Government and that was why this "caught fire" - and why his words and their meaning had to be edited and twisted.

The Left still does this to the "Limbaughs" of talk radio but they have a megaphone to shout back. The Hannity's and the Beck's just took Rancher Bundy's "megaphone" away to avoid the necessary hard work to see this through to the end. The ones who look bad here are those who turned and ran away from the front lines. They could have had a sit-down with Rancher Bundy and fleshed out his opinions and aired them. Maybe they still can.

21 posted on 04/26/2014 2:49:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: stormhill

And I will add, that by running from this, the supposed champions of conservatism have again reinforced, in the public’s eye, the Left’s lie that anyone who opposes this administration and Big Government, do it because they are racists, bigots, homophobes, hate-women, hate the poor, want to kill off the old and infirm, are war mongers — those knuckle dragging, slack-jawed, bible carrying morons.


22 posted on 04/26/2014 2:58:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Maybe they will.
I saw Hannity give his side of the story and carve out a position where he did distance himself from Bundy's words but forcefully advocated for the cause. I thought it very skillful and effective.

You don't need to be a talk radio host to exercise wisdom.

23 posted on 04/26/2014 3:04:44 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No, that’s what Bundy did. The supposed champions of conservatism are merely trying to undo the damage.


24 posted on 04/26/2014 3:08:49 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: stormhill
....You don't need to be a talk radio host to exercise wisdom.

When taken in context Rancher Bundy is clearly posing a good question - granted easy pickings for the evil practitioners of race-baiting, but by throwing him under the bus, "our side" showed their true worth and character - and it has been found to be extremely disappointing and lacking in moral courage and conviction. Who can ever trust them again?

25 posted on 04/26/2014 3:12:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ReneeLynn

All dumped him—Fox, Beck, hannity, BOR—only one brave Conservative stuck with him in the hate filled firestorm—Sen. Ted Cruz. He who stick with you in hard times—that is a friend.


26 posted on 04/26/2014 3:12:56 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: stormhill
No, that’s what Bundy did. The supposed champions of conservatism are merely trying to undo the damage.

I disagree. They're afraid of the Left and they are not sure of themselves - that fear is contagious. People were drawn to Rancher Bundy because he is fearless. Wrap this up anyway that makes you feel good about our side's defection but that is the bottom line.

27 posted on 04/26/2014 3:15:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I saw this this am and I think, former U.N. Ambassador Alan Keyes is exactly right in his assessment.

http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/black-leader-says-bundy-remarks-not-racist/


28 posted on 04/26/2014 3:18:33 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Let's agree to disagree.
I will never defect to the left and, if anything, I'm too fearless and reckless.

Handing the enemy a weapon to attack my side is not my idea of courage.

29 posted on 04/26/2014 3:28:14 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: MagnoliaB

Thank you for the link.

A quote from Cliven Bundy’s son:

“....Ammon Bundy told WND: “They took what they wanted. They knew when they were there his comments were not racist. He wasn’t able to completely articulate. That’s just my dad. He is a very principled person.

He said he was “there standing right beside my father when he made those comments.”

“He was reaching out to the black community,” Ammon Bundy said.

“Growing up around him, and being beside him, I never once heard him say anything negative about any race,” he said. “I wish I could say that about everyone else I’ve been around. The black community, the white community, they joke back and forth. My father’s never lowered himself.”

Ammon Bundy said his father’s message “was taken out of context.”

The point was that the government “has kept them oppressed,” he said. “They’ve never been given a situation to be able to thrive, get themselves out of slavery.”...


30 posted on 04/26/2014 3:30:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: stormhill
Let's agree to disagree.I will never defect to the left and, if anything, I'm too fearless and reckless. Handing the enemy a weapon to attack my side is not my idea of courage.

It's more like they manufactured the weapon and our side was too cowed to stand and fight. So, yes, I guess we disagree. All good for Reid's camp - division and conservative impotence.

31 posted on 04/26/2014 3:33:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Bundy merely noted the destructive forces of Federal overreach which extend far beyond the scope of a rancher in Nevada. The Destructive policies and regulations of the Federal Government extend into the very home of Americans, the unConstitutional Welfare State is one of the most pervasive and destructive abuses of federal power.

As I have noted on other threads, the Democrat Plantation is a form of slavery, economic in nature, and singularly destructive of the traditional family (mom, dad, and kids) A husband can't live with his wife and children in most cases and still have the wife and kids get the same benefits, so the husband is out. That is what happened to the Family in America, and the demographics were not evenly distributed: some groups have a distinct head start in their destruction.

Is decrying policies for which the Federal Government has no Constitutional authority and which are incredibly destructive to the most basic social fabric of our Nation racist?

Hardly.

If anything, it is a warning to all Americans that there is a lot more to the abuse of Federal Power than just a few head of cattle and a rancher in Nevada, and Bundy knows it.

The mention of the one demographic group who has suffered the most destruction (since the 60s) on the Democrat Plantation, by the ministrations of the Great Society--brought to them by the political party which gave us the KKK--isn't racism, but closer to a case study of how Federal abuse of power has damaged the very fabric of this nation, and a warning of how, unchecked, that abuse will continue and its scope expand into everyone's lives.

Pity, that the archaic but once perfectly acceptable terms "Negro" and "colored" were used, and more the pity that so many ran screaming for the hills at the words without bothering to understand what was being pointed out.

Mr Bundy has tried to use his bully pulpit to warn the multitude, to do a greater good in making people aware of the most widespread destruction wrought by abused Federal Power, but the very people who should have listened (and listened to all he said, not just the NYT cut) fell all over themselves trying to shut off the mike.

32 posted on 04/26/2014 3:36:43 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If the CNN reporter does not know the “why” of the willingness of the body guard to take a bullet for Cliven Bundy, then no amount of logic or persuasion is going to change the perception.

Critical thinking has two elements - Question the premise, and pursue the inquiry to its logical conclusion, using pragmatic integration of all the known facts of the matter. Each of the known facts is in turn put to the question, before accepting as part of the construct, and no more importance is assigned to each acceptable fact than its face value.


33 posted on 04/26/2014 3:41:46 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yep - too bad so many on FR tend to jump the shark with out reading more than the headlines. If they actually did some research and developed an ability to reason, we wouldn't have a second term of Obama-Rama.

Thanks for your continued seeds of rationality.

34 posted on 04/26/2014 3:50:22 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: stormhill

Bob Grant was always going to be a limited quantity. He was waaaaay too NYC/NJ for a national audience. Rush came from the midwest with those softer tones that appeal to middle America.

I think we should all stand up for Mr. Bundy. I don’t give a damn what he thinks about black America. I only care that he and others have a right to graze their cattle and not be harassed by my own government. Sean Hannity is a phony and a coward.


35 posted on 04/26/2014 3:52:15 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: stormhill

Conservatives are supposed to have principles. There was no need to comment on the race card play at all as Perry showed.

Those who did as you suggested are not going to “survive,” they exposed themselves as tools of the Tyrants the rest of us freemen are resisting. They showed they deserve no support from conservatives. They turned tail and ran at a slight provocation. They did not stand on principles nor did they wait for the truth. It was stupid their speedy capitulation and the wrong thing to do. It will cost them.


36 posted on 04/26/2014 4:06:40 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: miss marmelstein
OK, here's the thing. I do stand for Bundy and his rights; further, I don't believe he's a racist although he should have been more prudent.

However, I also stand for Hannity, Rush, Beck, Fox and all the other conservatives and their right to handle this situation as they feel best for their particular circumstance. I refuse to condemn them and understand the wider implications involved with this incident.

37 posted on 04/26/2014 4:11:19 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It looks like the prolific social commentator ET Williams maybe visiting the Clive Bundy ranch.

ET rails against the media and liberal hypocrisy and media lying.

“Clive Bundy Said Slave and Negro Now Get The F*** Over It And Move On “

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9-XiMI9k2U


38 posted on 04/26/2014 4:19:09 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“We have no morals and we will attack you,” Ethan Krupp a.k.a Pajama Boy.


39 posted on 04/26/2014 4:32:15 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The branding of this Patriot is only another data point in the actions of the Democrap Party, namely practicing the POLITICS OF FEAR, DIVISION, and HATRED"

Do you remember the Trent Lott branding? Senator Lott attended a private 100th birthday celebration for Senator Strom Thurmond. Lott said that if when Thurmond ran for President in 1948 and had won, he probably would have been a good president.

The Democrap Party and pimps of the race industry forced Lott to resign as Senate Majority Leader.
40 posted on 04/26/2014 4:37:56 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: Smokin' Joe

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Well said.


41 posted on 04/26/2014 4:41:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Prominent conservatives running for the tall grass to get away from or running to microphones to denounce Bundy ...”

Gutless is gutless, period.


42 posted on 04/26/2014 4:46:22 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: alloysteel
If the CNN reporter does not know the “why” of the willingness of the body guard to take a bullet for Cliven Bundy, then no amount of logic or persuasion is going to change the perception.

Critical thinking has two elements - Question the premise, and pursue the inquiry to its logical conclusion, using pragmatic integration of all the known facts of the matter. Each of the known facts is in turn put to the question, before accepting as part of the construct, and no more importance is assigned to each acceptable fact than its face value.

They're close-minded. Either they believe the lies or they will dutifully keep them alive and working for the revolution.

Barack Obama’s Rules for Revolution The Alinsky Model

".....In 1969, the year that publishers reissued Alinsky’s first book, Reveille for Radicals, a Wellesley undergraduate named Hillary Rodham submitted her 92-page senior thesis on Alinsky’s theories (she interviewed him personally for the project).6 In her conclusion Hillary compared Alinsky to Eugene Debs, Walt Whitman and Martin Luther King. The title of Hillary’s thesis was “There Is Only the Fight: An Analysis of the Alinsky Model.” In this title she had singled out the single most important Alinsky contribution to the radical cause - his embrace of political nihilism. An SDS radical once wrote, “The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.” In other words the cause - whether inner city blacks or women - is never the real cause, but only an occasion to advance the real cause which is the accumulation of power to make the revolution. That was the all consuming focus of Alinsky and his radicals.

Guided by Alinsky principles, post-Communist radicals are not idealists but Machiavellians. Their focus is on means rather than ends, and therefore they are not bound by organizational orthodoxies in the way their admired Marxist forebears were. Within the framework of their revolutionary agenda, they are flexible and opportunistic and will say anything (and pretend to be anything) to get what they want, which is resources and power."............ - David Horowitz

43 posted on 04/26/2014 4:49:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: stormhill
.....However, I also stand for Hannity, Rush, Beck, Fox and all the other conservatives and their right to handle this situation as they feel best for their particular circumstance. I refuse to condemn them and understand the wider implications involved with this incident.

I'm not condemning them, I'm calling them out; asking them to look at what they're doing. If they can't handle this, what in the hell can they handle? Their first instinct should have been to suspect a RAT, not run for the hills.

44 posted on 04/26/2014 4:52:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Red Steel

Well, GO ET Williams!

Thanks for the video link.


45 posted on 04/26/2014 4:55:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: leprechaun9
The Democrap Party and pimps of the race industry forced Lott to resign as Senate Majority Leader.

Yet they ignore or forgive actual racist comments and actions by Sharpton, Jackson, Biden, Reid (and so on and so on) - because it isn't about race, it's about (as you correctly say) "politics of fear, division and hatred" - what better way is there to grab more power and wealth from "we the people," than by instilling fear and hate and dividing us?

46 posted on 04/26/2014 5:02:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Guenevere

It is time to stand up and say no more. Call them a child molester to their face.


47 posted on 04/26/2014 5:23:07 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: ReneeLynn

I am in total agreement with your comments! The conservative media and many FReepers abandonment and utter disdain of this man are sickening.

I can’t believe those on FR who have totally (and gleefully) thrown Bundy under the bus. I’m ashamed to have these people posting on FR. They certainly aren’t conservatives in any sense of the word and I wouldn’t want them in the foxhole next to me when the SHTF. I’m sick of so-called conservatives bowing to the PC rhetoric and not fighting back against it.


48 posted on 04/26/2014 5:28:36 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for your efforts here. I, too, was quite taken aback by how quickly those we heretofore considered legit spokesmen for “our side” dumped on Bundy. The way I saw it from the first was that we should be damn happy this man stood up for himself and in doing so all of us. He literally stared down the barrel of a gun and told Fedzilla to shoot if they wanted but he would not be moved. The speed at which public figures headed for the tall grass really says something. Something nauseating.


49 posted on 04/26/2014 5:29:28 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
When the dust settles, it may turn out you were right all along and people like me should not have compromised some underlying principle or worried about the movement's survival. For the time being, it seems even Cliven Bundy agrees with us and is trying to walk back his statement.

It's clear he's right about the harm done to blacks by the all-caring government and many live in as bad a condition as ever. You just don't expose yourself to the media's attack by appearing to say that we were better off as slaves. I know he wasn't justifying the slavery system but in making himself vulnerable to that accusation, he's bringing a threat to the conservative movement that supported his courageous stand against tyranny.

50 posted on 04/26/2014 5:32:40 AM PDT by stormhill
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