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West threatens new Russia sanctions as Kiev warns of 'world war three'
THE TELEGRAPH ^ | 9:04PM BST 25 Apr 2014 | Harriet Salem in Kramatorsk, Howard Amos in Lviv and Emily Gosden

Posted on 04/26/2014 7:33:22 AM PDT by carlo3b

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THE RUSSIAN BEAR, THREATENS THE TOOTHLESS GIANT

There it is.. The first media wake-up call, that their Boy King, has gotten us into a WAR.. How predictable, a bully will face the weak with threats, and laugh as they humiliate their adversaries..

Never fear my fellow Americans, our leaders will surrender without a fight..

How pitiful, cowards in charge of the willing..

How far we have come, from ".. I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country." to "Take what you want, just please, don't hit me.."


1 posted on 04/26/2014 7:33:22 AM PDT by carlo3b
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To: carlo3b

Kiev warning of WW III is playing a game of “let’s you and him fight over me.”


2 posted on 04/26/2014 7:37:08 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: carlo3b

If there is a war, it is only because Obama wants to start one.


3 posted on 04/26/2014 7:38:36 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: carlo3b

4 posted on 04/26/2014 7:39:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Cowboy Bob

If there is a war, it is only because Obama wants to start one.


Yep. Russia murdering it’s neighbors has nothing to do with it.


5 posted on 04/26/2014 7:39:53 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: carlo3b

Obama isn’t another Neville Chamberlain....he’s Oswald Mosley.


6 posted on 04/26/2014 7:41:12 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: Cowboy Bob

It may be the paranoid in me, but I’m concerned Obama is seeking to use this situation to complete the discrediting and destruction of the US military.


7 posted on 04/26/2014 7:44:13 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Pearls Before Swine

It couldn’t be any clearer that those who manipulated those protests in Kiev to turn violent are looking to destabilize Ukraine.


8 posted on 04/26/2014 7:44:35 AM PDT by grania
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To: carlo3b

“Fresh sanctions! Get your fresh sanctions here!”


9 posted on 04/26/2014 7:46:24 AM PDT by keat
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To: lodi90
Where are the murders? And why should that concern me?

You want Americans to go to Ukraine and die? There are more murders over an average weekend. When do we send troops to Chicago?

11 posted on 04/26/2014 7:57:10 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Apparently the Current Occupant, suiting performance to his view of self-defense, has chosen, by his actions, the “duty to retreat” rather than “stand your ground”.

Of course, when you choose to retreat, the opponent may choose to pursue, which is OK if you have unlimited room to retreat, and have the stamina to make a run for it. But like kicking the can down the road, eventually there is nowhere left to take the next step.


12 posted on 04/26/2014 7:57:35 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

And the pro war propagandists need to go back and tell their masters that Americans have no interest in fighting their war.

The whole world has become a welfare state because we’ve always come running to the rescue.


13 posted on 04/26/2014 7:58:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: carlo3b

Since we helped overthrow their legally elected government it doesn’t surprise me that they want us to defend their coup. I say not no but hell no!


14 posted on 04/26/2014 7:58:13 AM PDT by McGruff (Clinton had his Kosovo, Obama has his Ukraine.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

"Mr. President, Oslo just called, they want their Peace Prize back!"

15 posted on 04/26/2014 7:59:49 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: alloysteel

I wonder if he will take a selfie of himself, signing our surrender.. :(


16 posted on 04/26/2014 8:00:04 AM PDT by carlo3b (Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad.. Henry Kissinger)
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To: lodi90
"Yep. Russia murdering it’s neighbors has nothing to do with it."

With Obama, no it doesn't. If there is a war with the US, it is because Obama finds it politically advantageous for domestic consumption.

17 posted on 04/26/2014 8:04:23 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: carlo3b; Jacquerie; Texas Fossil; All

IMHO:

* Russia will be the dominant power in the Middle East.
* Russia will soon confiscate the North Shore of the Black Sea so that its only warm water Naval Port can exert unimpeded power over the Middle East.
* Russia will eventually confiscate all of the Nation of Ukraine that it’s leaders consider necessary to supply, un-impeded, its Navy AND Europe with the goods and services required.
* In the soon-to-be completed game of Foreign Policy “Chess,” it will be “King” Putin to “pawn” B. Hussein for a checkmate.

Oops! I forgot! Sorry!!

Obama has vast experience as a Community Organizer, Nationalized the complete failure of 1/6 th of the US Economy, and has a sealed Haaaaaaaavud diploma to someday be unsealed and filed by his Nobel Peace Prize in his Chicagoland Library.

Yup, Putin will be more cautious NEXT time, or so Red-Liners Biden and Kerry want us to believe - - - .

MOVE ON!
FORWARD!


18 posted on 04/26/2014 8:09:04 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: grania

Still defending your Russian thugs, we see.


19 posted on 04/26/2014 8:18:11 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: lodi90

of course Obama’s State Dept going there and trying to run an Occupy Ukraine scam had nothing to do with Russia getting involved in the first place either...
Would they have anyway? Does not matter. The Problem as it exist came from another left wing nation building exercise.

This is 100% the fault of the liberals and their leader.


20 posted on 04/26/2014 8:22:55 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: canuck_conservative

How are the election plans coming along?


21 posted on 04/26/2014 8:47:48 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

They’re being interfered-with by your Russian thugs.


22 posted on 04/26/2014 8:52:13 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Ruprecht Jamieson
You are sure quick to jump to defend your boy Vladi. And the two are peas in a pod.
/see how that works?
23 posted on 04/26/2014 9:04:21 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: carlo3b

Kiev wants us to fight WW III? Up yours Kiev. It’s up to us to decide when to go to war.


24 posted on 04/26/2014 9:13:20 AM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: ex-snook

Sometime between now and November would be the window.


25 posted on 04/26/2014 9:20:09 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Graewoulf

And just maybe one day, Russia will decide that they want some of the Aleutian Islands back.


26 posted on 04/26/2014 10:20:13 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: Cowboy Bob

Obama doesn’t have the balls to goto war, much less stick in one.

At most he will do “Sanctions” which if you ask me do more harm to us than Russia and will be dropped soon enough anyway.

There are after all only 4 types of actions:
1: Diplomatic
Russia doesn’t rationally care, who outside of the socialite left does?
2: Economic
Does more harm to us than Russia because we need their oil more than they immediately need our money.
3: Military
A compete joke because Russia produces it’s own arms.
4: Sport:
Obama already squandered this card because Russians won’t bend over and take it from Sodomites. I say good for Russia, someone has to stand up for morality against Obama’s sick campaign of Sodomy.

The 5th kind “Sanctions on individuals” is soo pitiful its not even worth mentioning so its left off the list.


27 posted on 04/26/2014 11:03:11 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: sanjuanbob

“And just maybe one day, Russia will decide that they want some of the Aleutian Islands back.”

Maybe and if an incompetent idiot like Obama is still in office, Alaska will have to point out some endangered wildlife species on the island just to get him to lift a finger in objection.


28 posted on 04/26/2014 11:07:33 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: ex-snook

“Kiev wants us to fight WW III? Up yours Kiev. It’s up to us to decide when to go to war.”

I wouldn’t go that far, I’m sure Kiev wants the west to stand strong in their defense. But the fact is Kiev doesn’t have that kind of relationship with us, and even if they did, Obama couldn’t stand strong for anything but State slavery.

The Ukraine is still far too much of a free country for Obama to show that kind of passion in defending.


29 posted on 04/26/2014 11:10:26 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Ruprecht Jamieson

Nope. You were too quick to accuse someone with whom you disagree to be an Obama-supporter.


31 posted on 04/26/2014 12:50:04 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: carlo3b

Putin flooring his muscle car which doesn’t run well. Who’ll swerve first?


32 posted on 04/26/2014 2:45:13 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: grania
It couldn’t be any clearer that those who manipulated those protests in Kiev to turn violent are looking to destabilize Ukraine.

Yeah, because the Berkut kidnapping and torturing people, and then shooting protestors, had nothing to do with making the protests "turn violent."

33 posted on 04/26/2014 2:46:57 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Ruprecht Jamieson
You sure are quick to jump to defend your boy Odumbo.

Hey, so what color shirt does Czar Putin make you wear? Red or brown?

34 posted on 04/26/2014 2:47:41 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: carlo3b

Ain’t no use fighting a World War over Ukraine.


35 posted on 04/26/2014 2:49:35 PM PDT by dforest
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To: McGruff
Since we helped overthrow their legally elected government

Funny enough, the Interim government in Kyiv is the Ukrainian rada, which was democratically elected after the Russian-controlled president fled the country after even his own party turned on him for violating the Ukrainian constitution and brutalizing his own people.

they want us to defend their coup

You don't know what a coup is, so why should I worry about what you say "hell no" to?

36 posted on 04/26/2014 2:50:28 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: McGruff

Perhaps Obama could gather up his elites , professors, union thugs and such, to go over there and fight Russians in a war Obama admin started.


37 posted on 04/26/2014 2:52:29 PM PDT by dforest
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To: skeeter

Not just destroying the military. He’s a muslim, remember, and will do whatever it takes to complete the destruction of the U.S.. His actions, so far, have been pretty insidious to the point of making someone think - maybe I didn’t see him do that, or maybe I misunderstood what he said, etc. There are enough fools on this earth that believe he wouldn’t do that, because he’s the messiah and the best thing since sliced bread. Or there’s the belief that not enough of “us” are able or willing to turn it around - so he’s untouchable and he knows it.


38 posted on 04/26/2014 3:07:02 PM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: Cowboy Bob

When do we send troops to Chicago?

Just a matter of time.


39 posted on 04/26/2014 4:08:20 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: skeeter

I have no respect whatsoever for the military leaders of today. Not one has the guts to resign in protest. They’d rather sacrifice troops than sacrifice their careers.


40 posted on 04/26/2014 4:09:39 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: carlo3b

They’re gonna need a bigger tank.


41 posted on 04/26/2014 5:17:03 PM PDT by tomkat (3% +1)
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To: carlo3b

Never fear my fellow Americans, our leaders will surrender without a fight..

How pitiful, cowards in charge of the willing..


Yeah! We want them shroom clouds over the worlds cities, dammit!! sarc/


42 posted on 04/27/2014 1:10:01 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: carlo3b

So glad we are “leading from behind”.... this President is clueless... as are the MILLIONS OF AMERICANS that re-uped for a 2nd term.


43 posted on 04/27/2014 9:20:38 AM PDT by Heff (Nonsense poll.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Terry Lakin


44 posted on 04/27/2014 7:59:07 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

What other cards to they have to play? The West has been sucking up to Ukraine since the collapse of the USSR, dangling NATO membership and EU goodies in their collective faces, apparently without ever considering the fact that the Russians might not be willing to play along.

It might have even worked if we had a real leader as a President. One the Russians could respect and who would taken steps years ago to prevent the current situation from developing. But we don’t, we didn’t, and the Russians see a perfect opportunity to jerk Kiev back into Moscow’s orbit, so they are taking it.

The US will not (nor should they) get involved in a fight about the Ukraine. We simply do not have a stake big enough to justify intervening. It would be different if Ukraine was an actual NATO member, but they aren’t.


45 posted on 04/27/2014 9:51:07 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: canuck_conservative
There are a few on this board who wet their pants over Putin, much the same way Mathews wet his pants for Obama. The guy is a KGB thug who is playing Russia like a master.
46 posted on 04/29/2014 8:43:38 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Monorprise

Send Biden to Kiev and dare the Russians to make their move?


47 posted on 04/29/2014 8:44:27 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Ronin

No, but they can do much more short of war. Cut off all trade relations. This time, don’t back off like we did in Berlin back when the Iron Curtain descended. Send tanks and troops into Kiev, Warsaw, and every Eastern European and former Soviet nation willing to take them. Call Putin’s bluff.


48 posted on 04/29/2014 8:47:17 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Sam Gamgee

“Send Biden to Kiev and dare the Russians to make their move?”

Don’t you mean Ask?


49 posted on 04/29/2014 3:02:51 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Sam Gamgee

Send tanks and troops to Kiev? Ummm.... can I get a “no” in here? Sam, there is no way in Hell we could put enough tanks and troops in Kiev to make a fart of a bit of difference if Putin decides to roll and even trying would ensure he did.

We don’t have the airlift, we don’t have the manpower, we don’t have the equipment, and the Army would probably tell Obama to go piss up a rope if he tried to order that kind of move.

Obama’s defense cuts and the ongoing commitments that we still have worldwide have stretched our conventional forces beyond any possible ability to make a significant contribution to defending the Ukraine, if that was in our best interests, and I do not think it is.

Face it. We’re clapped out. The cupboard is bare. Morale is down the tubes and readiness is now taking a backseat to social experimentation and gay rights. Any troops we moved to Ukraine would be outnumbered, outgunned, out supplied, and SOL.

As I said before, if we were serious about moving Ukraine into the western world orbit, there are things we could and should have done years ago. But we did not do those things, and now it is simply too late. If Putin wants to take the Ukraine, there is not a damn thing short of nuclear war that could stop him — and I don’t want to go there.


50 posted on 04/29/2014 5:44:23 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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