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De Blasio wants to ban new wood fireplaces
nypost.com ^ | april 23, 2014 | beth defalco

Posted on 04/26/2014 7:53:32 AM PDT by lowbridge

Mayor Bill de Blasio celebrated Earth Day on Tuesday by proposing more regulations — including a ban on new wood-burning fireplaces.

The mayor made the proposal, along with those for other sweeping regulations that he said would update emission standards and help curb air pollution.

Instead of wood-burning fireplaces, de Blasio wants to allow only cleaner-burning units, such as those that use natural gas.

Residents who already have wood-burning fireplaces would be allowed to keep them, but would be required to use only firewood that has 20 percent moisture or less, according to the Department of Environmental Protection.

Officials said that drier wood burns more cleanly and releases fewer toxins into the air.

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Appearing with City Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito and DEP Commissioner Emily Lloyd, de Blasio said he would also seek legislation that would crack down on food trucks and refrigeration ­vehicles.

He specifically wants food trucks to switch from diesel engines to electric.

The mayor said such small changes “will make a fundamental difference for thousands of New Yorkers living with asthma.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: deblasio; energy; fireplace; naturalgas; newyork; wood
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1 posted on 04/26/2014 7:53:32 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

They want to ban everything in our way of life.


2 posted on 04/26/2014 7:54:53 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: lowbridge

It’s happy days for New York.


3 posted on 04/26/2014 7:56:12 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: lowbridge

So what happens when you can’t afford the gas/electricity and burning wood is banned...

Freeze to death you say....uh? What a lovely world we live in where asthma is treatable and staying warm is forbidden even unto death...


4 posted on 04/26/2014 7:56:18 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: lowbridge

Must keep everyone on the grid. Easier to control. Want your natural gas service restored? Turn in your guns, emergency food, neighbors, mom and dad, etc.


5 posted on 04/26/2014 7:56:44 AM PDT by Basil Duke
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To: lowbridge

“Appearing with City Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito and DEP Commissioner Emily Lloyd, de Blasio said he would also seek legislation that would crack down on food trucks and refrigeration ­vehicles. “

Yes, let’s crack down on those nasty trucks that bring food and refrigerated goods into the city.

The liberal fascists can’t help themselves. Regulations and taxes, they live to impose them.


6 posted on 04/26/2014 7:57:19 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: lowbridge

I already banned my own. Wood fireplaces are holes to throw money into.


7 posted on 04/26/2014 7:58:55 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: lowbridge

“”””He specifically wants food trucks to switch from diesel engines to electric. “””””

That’s because electricity comes from that outlet thingy on the wall and doesn’t pollute.


8 posted on 04/26/2014 7:59:20 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“It’s happy days for New York.”

Mayor DeWilhelm knows what’s best for you.

This’ll be all moot once the bodies start piling up from the increase in crime this moron has set in motion.


9 posted on 04/26/2014 7:59:25 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: lowbridge
--Residents who already have wood-burning fireplaces would be allowed to keep them, but would be required to use only firewood that has 20 percent moisture or less--

Citizen, your wood registers at 23.7%. Book 'em, Dano.

10 posted on 04/26/2014 8:01:52 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: lowbridge

So I’m wondering about the 20% moisture rule. How do you enforce that? Ban firewood cutting? Only allow wood from state approved sources? Unannounced woodpile inspections? New NY Dept of Wood? Wood pile certification permits?


11 posted on 04/26/2014 8:03:29 AM PDT by CA_soon_gone
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To: mountainlion

> Residents who already have wood-burning fireplaces would be allowed to keep them, but would be required to use only firewood that has 20 percent moisture or less, according to the Department of Environmental Protection

And how are you going to be able to detect how much moisture is your wood accurately. You won’t. I imagine one of DeBlasio’s pals will offer the solution by selling “high grade, low moisture” firewood for double or triple the amount you pay now or will sell “moisture measurement devices”. All the regulations always equate to profit and the liberal / progressives are too stupid to kniw they’re being played.


12 posted on 04/26/2014 8:03:56 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: EBH

***staying warm is forbidden even unto death...***

Scene from BECKET:
King Henry is caught in a rainstorm and goes to a hovel.
Henry” “Give me fire and warmth!”
Becket: “You will find no fire here sire.”
Henry: “And why is that!”
Becket: “Every hovel is allowed two measures of wood a yer. One stick more and they are hanged.”
Henry: “My edict?”
Becket: “Your edict sire.”

Then there is that scene from Dr Zhivago where the Dr is stealing wood for warmth and is caught by his brother the commie comissar.


13 posted on 04/26/2014 8:11:55 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: jsanders2001

You could get one of these and then document every piece of wood you chuck into the fireplace.

http://woodmoisturemetershop.com/Delmhorst-J2000-Digital-Moisture-Meter-with-Case.html


14 posted on 04/26/2014 8:12:08 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy
"That’s because electricity comes from that outlet thingy on the wall and doesn’t pollute."

And, it's free. (...as long as it's someone else's outlet.)

15 posted on 04/26/2014 8:14:08 AM PDT by moovova
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To: CA_soon_gone

Don’t give them any ideas.


16 posted on 04/26/2014 8:15:15 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: lowbridge

Yeah, he’s a typical commie. But seriously, how many wood-burning fireplaces are there in NYC?


17 posted on 04/26/2014 8:16:04 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: bigbob
I already banned my own. Wood fireplaces are holes to throw money into.

But a fireplace fire is pretty on occasion.

I highly recommend pellet stoves, though. A good one will save you 50% on your oil bill. That's been our experience.

18 posted on 04/26/2014 8:18:02 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: CA_soon_gone

Ah yes, the NY City Dept of Wood.

You’ll need a dept head @ $350,000 a year, a director @ $275k per year. At least two or three dozen inspectors @ 150k per year another dozen armed enforcement officers for the dept @ at least 125k per year. And several dozen support staff, call center employess @ 75k+ a year. Just to start.

Viola instant job growth.....


19 posted on 04/26/2014 8:18:55 AM PDT by A message
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To: lowbridge
De Blasio wants to ban new wood fireplaces

New wood is too difficult to light, I only burn old wood.

20 posted on 04/26/2014 8:18:57 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.a)
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To: lowbridge
including a ban on new wood-burning fireplaces.

I hope the son of a bitch bans everything. I hope he regulates airconditing at no lower than 80 in the summer and heating no higher than 60 in the winter. I hope he doubles the taxes on NYers. I hope he triples the dog license tax in the Bronx and makes overnight on street parking illegal. New Yorkers elected him and they deserve every bit of screwing he's planning on giving them. Further those a$$holes keep sending liberals to kongress to export their tyranny to the rest of the country. No government regulation is too burdensome to be applied to NYC.

21 posted on 04/26/2014 8:21:35 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: shelterguy

> You could get one of these and then document every piece of wood you chuck into the fireplace.

http://woodmoisturemetershop.com/Delmhorst-J2000-Digital-Moisture-Meter-with-Case.html

Isn’t the idea that we would have to something so stupid, even if only in concept, pure insanity?...: )


22 posted on 04/26/2014 8:23:52 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: lowbridge

This should help the supply shortage for states with common sense. I need one to have as a standby when gas or electricity is not working.


23 posted on 04/26/2014 8:24:50 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: from occupied ga

> I hope the son of a bitch bans everything. I hope he regulates airconditing at no lower than 80 in the summer and heating no higher than 60 in the winter. I hope he doubles the taxes on NYers. I hope he triples the dog license tax in the Bronx and makes overnight on street parking illegal. New Yorkers elected him and they deserve every bit of screwing he’s planning on giving them. Further those a$$holes keep sending liberals to kongress to export their tyranny to the rest of the country. No government regulation is too burdensome to be applied to NYC.

I propose you get the “rant of the day” award. You earned it....lol


24 posted on 04/26/2014 8:25:46 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: lowbridge

This guy is great!

He’s such a deranged downer, the whole world will end up hating him or anyone like him!

Mr. No Fun thug himself.

Way to go New York! You elected the biggest kill joy of the 21st century!

At least they won’t catch him in bed with some little skink from Jersey...that would be almost normal, and he’s Mr. A.B. Normal in the flesh!

In a sensible world the Conservative party could take advantage of this, but that would imply there was any sense in that party.


25 posted on 04/26/2014 8:27:47 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: lowbridge
would be allowed to keep them, but would be required to use only firewood that has...

In other words, we want a total ban without grandfathering, but not feeling comfortable saying so, will just put in some regulations to achieve that result.

26 posted on 04/26/2014 8:28:00 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: from occupied ga

AMEN and AMEN!!!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 04/26/2014 8:28:20 AM PDT by sport
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To: jsanders2001

THANX! :-)


28 posted on 04/26/2014 8:30:24 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

: )


29 posted on 04/26/2014 8:34:36 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: lowbridge

What’s a cord of firewood going for in the big apple? Split and stacked, or just rounds? How much do you tip a wood guy?


30 posted on 04/26/2014 8:37:01 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Don't tell me, I'll tell you.)
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To: headstamp 2

Don’t be daft, all he needs to do is ban more guns.


31 posted on 04/26/2014 8:37:56 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: lowbridge

We need to ban the smoke coming out of De Blasio’s ears. You know, where there is Liberalism, there is smoke and obfuscation.


32 posted on 04/26/2014 8:38:23 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: lowbridge

He’s going to make NYC the New Detroit City.


33 posted on 04/26/2014 8:48:43 AM PDT by boycott
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

We have a pellet stove and in California even those are under the ‘no burn days’. We use it all winter anyway. It puts out no visible smoke at all.


34 posted on 04/26/2014 8:50:33 AM PDT by sheana
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To: headstamp 2

“This’ll be all moot once the bodies start piling up from the increase in crime this moron has set in motion.”

A lot of these things were meaningless from the start because the swelling population of immigrants in the NYC metro area (illegals and legal) live completely outside the law anyway. They could increase the minimum wage to $100 per hour, and still find that 75% of the people working are earning an untaxed $10 per hour in cash. This area is starting to look like Red China, with crumbling infrastructure and illegals peddling to work each morning on their bicycles...


35 posted on 04/26/2014 8:59:38 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: lowbridge
Remember when wood-burning technology was the "green energy"? People who lived on not all that large tracts of land can provide for a large percentage of their heating needs managing their own wooded land. In NYC, they don't have those woods but it's still an option to keep the profits away from the elite.

But, alas, there's no profit in that for the elitists. Gotta' have that bird killing, gov subsidized wind and solat for the money whores.

36 posted on 04/26/2014 9:05:48 AM PDT by grania
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To: lowbridge

Time for more popcorn.

Ah the wisdom of the New York voter.


37 posted on 04/26/2014 9:24:02 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: CA_soon_gone

This is what I mean about a good old fashioned ass kicking. De Blasio and every other liberal needs about five minutes of a curb stomping within an inch of their lives to get this nonsense out of their heads and understand the great majority of Americans just trying to earn a living and raise their families are beyond fed up with their bs.


38 posted on 04/26/2014 9:54:14 AM PDT by jmacusa
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To: lowbridge

Does NY have a voter “recall” law? Now would be a good time to use it.


39 posted on 04/26/2014 10:00:53 AM PDT by Howindependent (A Liberal has no concept of reality.)
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To: lowbridge

I don’t care what happens to New Yorkers. They elected this turd. Let them live with him.


40 posted on 04/26/2014 10:13:38 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: shelterguy
and then document every piece of wood you chuck into the fireplace

Would that be a log log?

41 posted on 04/26/2014 10:25:35 AM PDT by CA_soon_gone
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To: Michael.SF.
Probably old wood costs more than new wood.

Maybe De Blasio has friends who sell firewood.

42 posted on 04/26/2014 10:52:07 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: shelterguy

$300? That’s damn near enough to by a cord of wood. /s


43 posted on 04/26/2014 10:54:37 AM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: dainbramaged

“What’s a cord of firewood going for in the big apple?”

A couple friends and I had a little side business going once. Cut, delivered and stacked - 17 bucks. That was in 1969-70, in WA State. Of course, fuel oil was .17 a gallon, too.


44 posted on 04/26/2014 11:02:02 AM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: lowbridge
[...] would be required to use only firewood that has 20 percent moisture or less [...]

ROTFLMAO!!!

Put that 20% wood under a tarp, let it sit there through the fall rains and a few freeze/thaw cycles as the snows come in... Then measure it again.

Anyone who has ever forgot to fill the kindling and keep it dry... Who had to try to start a fire with kindling straight from the woodpile knows the idiocy of that statement.

45 posted on 04/26/2014 11:19:27 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: from occupied ga

Awesome rant. You are 100% correct on all counts.


46 posted on 04/26/2014 1:51:42 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: lowbridge

Perhaps there could be a new city agency to enforce the 20% moisture content in firewood, armed, of course.


47 posted on 04/26/2014 6:20:24 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: from occupied ga

Replace ‘De Blasio’/’the son of a bitch’ with ‘Obama’ and ‘New York’/’New Yorkers’ with ‘America’/’Americans’ and let’s see what the amen corner has to say here.

If you don’t care about New York, why not just ignore New York threads?


48 posted on 04/26/2014 6:26:35 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork
...0bama...America...

Oh I must be mistaken, because I thought 0 won in NYC with something like 85% of the popular vote. I don't recall him being nearly as popular in the rest of the country.

If you don’t care about New York

Oh, but I do care about NY. I care that for decades NY has been exporting tyranny and statism to the rest of the country. I do care that the majority of new yorkers not only want to be serfs to the government, but want the rest of the country to be in chains too. I care about NY because the stupidity and militant ignorance that defines liberal thought festers there and is sent out to destroy the rest of the country with NY's elected representatives. If I could cut NY and the smug self absorbed ignoranuses that make up the vast majority of the voting populace there and let them go to hell on their own I would in a heartbest, but unfortunately, NY won't ignore me. upChuckie Schemer and Hillary are constantly trying to pass gun control that would affect me. Your fine democratic crew from NY has never met a tax increase that theydidn't love, and let's not forget their voting record on 0bamacare.

So, sport, much as I'd like to ignore NY the evil that flows from the populace there won't let me alone.

49 posted on 04/27/2014 2:11:06 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

Stop. I have as much if not more reason to despise the ones you’re talking about, and I do. Don’t call me sport, or any kid names. I didn’t treat you with any disrespect, and I won’t accept any from you. Is this how your mother raised you? Have a think about who you’re offending when you write what you do on threads like this. It’s not Democrats, nor any part of the left. If your attitude to this part of America is indeed what you’re asserting, what part of America is next for you to let go of? California? Or maybe give up on the whole east coast and west coast along with Chicago and Detroit. How do you feel about Atlanta? Should that be let go too? What about the parts of Georgia on the coast? You’ll paint yourself into a corner eventually, thinking like you do. Where do you think many of the idiot New Yorkers that voted in De Blasio are going to go if he’s allowed to wreck the city for what’s left of the middle class? I hope you like bagels and pizza in your neighborhood.


50 posted on 04/28/2014 3:17:02 AM PDT by OldNewYork
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