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Maher: GOP Shouts About Ukraine, But They ‘Never Quite Say What Obama Should Do’
mediaite.com ^ | April 26, 2014 |  Josh Feldman

Posted on 04/26/2014 11:48:04 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

In the Overtime segment of his show, Bill Maher clashed with Daily Beast editor-in-chief John Avlon over Ukraine. Maher said the U.S. should respond to Russia shutting down talks “by not giving a shit” and mockingly continued, “I’m sorry, let’s go have World War III over Crimea.”

Avlon argued that just because America has a “foreign war hangover” it doesn’t mean the U.S. doesn’t have to care about what Vladimir Putin is doing. He called Putin a bully that will only stop “when someone stands up to him.”

Maher asked, then, what exactly President Obama‘s supposed to do, calling out Republicans for criticizing Obama every which way on Ukraine but “they never say quite what Obama should do.” He said, “If you’re not suggesting we should go to war or send troops, what are you saying?”

Avlon pointed to U.S. troop exercises in Poland as a start, and lamented how the international community lacks the ability to coalesce around Putin and stop him from trying to “reassert the borders of the USSR.”


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1 posted on 04/26/2014 11:48:04 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“If you’re not suggesting we should go to war or send troops, what are you saying?”

1) Trim the welfare state.
2) Bring back American jobs.
3) Restore freedom and initiative to this country.
4) Stop weakening our military.

The day comes where we will need a strong people, strong economy, and a strong military.
Crimea isn't the battlefield ... and that's good. Because we're not ready. But we should be getting ready.

2 posted on 04/26/2014 11:52:19 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Resign!!!


3 posted on 04/26/2014 11:56:07 AM PDT by rfp1234 (Hail Obambi, our Deer Leader)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Good points. Regardless of what Russia does, there are many things we must do at home first.


4 posted on 04/26/2014 11:56:49 AM PDT by heye2monn (MO)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

His first move should be to resign and turn the reins over to somebody with a higher IQ, like Joe Biden! Or maybe a higher IQ, like “Bo, the dog”!


5 posted on 04/26/2014 11:57:25 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"But we should be getting ready"

For what?

Syria? Iran? China? Russia? Re-Invade Iraq?

You, McCain, and the NeoCons need to put together a list of priorities about who we will be going to war with.

6 posted on 04/26/2014 11:58:08 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What should Obama do?

He should go to the Ukraine, and challenge Putin to one on one fight to settle the issue.


7 posted on 04/26/2014 11:58:39 AM PDT by pallis
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To: ClearCase_guy
As a very important source of strength and security, cherish public credit. One method of preserving it is, to use it as sparingly as possible; avoiding occasions of expense by cultivating peace, but remembering also that timely disbursements to prepare for danger frequently prevent much greater disbursements to repel it; avoiding likewise the accumulation of debt, not only by shunning occasions of expense, but by vigorous exertions in time of peace to discharge the debts, which unavoidable wars may have occasioned, not ungenerously throwing upon posterity the burthen, which we ourselves ought to bear.

- GEORGE WASHINGTON, Farewell Address, Sep. 17, 1796
8 posted on 04/26/2014 11:58:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

He should release his documents,
admit he lied,
apologize on his knees, and then resign.


9 posted on 04/26/2014 11:58:55 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Tailgunner Joe

US should borrow more money from China and Japan and start a war in Ukraine. Why not? our Treasury is in the hock barely $17 Trillion. What’s a few more Trillions in debt?

But wait just a minute...every major power in history fell into the abyss with foreign military adventures with a bankrupt treasury. So what! Just ignore history!

Forward ho!!

/sarc


10 posted on 04/26/2014 11:59:25 AM PDT by entropy12 (Democrats win WH for one reason...welfare checks, food stamps and 143 more giveaways)
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To: Ben Ficklin

I don’t want us to go to war with anyone.

And the best way to prevent that is to be strong. Are you opposed to American strength? I listed 4 concrete points. Do you oppose any of them? If not, why are you sniping at me?


11 posted on 04/26/2014 11:59:57 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Obama’s already acted. He destroyed our economy and our military strength and that is what emboldened Putin to make his moves. What should Obama do now to counter? Obvious. RESIGN!


12 posted on 04/26/2014 12:01:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Mayer’s correct. The DC GOP doesn’t do anything but pretend to be pro-Constitution and conservative to get elected. What we should do is stop the global meddling and worry about the US being on a very fast slippery slope into the trash heap of failed empires.


13 posted on 04/26/2014 12:01:13 PM PDT by grania
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Maher: GOP Shouts About Ukraine, But They ‘Never Quite Say What Obama Should Do’

I actually agree with that unless you're talking about McCain, Linda, and William Krystol, and the crew at Weekly Standard.

They all want to attack....into the valley of death rode the 600.

Most of the conservative media harps on sanctions of one form or another. Sanctions are a joke unless it's some landlocked, enemy-surrounded state like Servia of Bosnian war fame. Thinking that sanctions will affect a nation the size and resources of Russia is simply for public consumption. It will affect nothing.

The most common alternate answers are to: (1) Arm the Ukraine or (2) Do nothing.

14 posted on 04/26/2014 12:02:51 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Let Europe handle it; it’s their turn.


15 posted on 04/26/2014 12:06:11 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Uh, he’s the president. I didn’t know that it was the Republicans’ responsibility to hold his hand. He wouldn’t listen anyway.


16 posted on 04/26/2014 12:06:24 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: xzins

Sanctions are a tool that crony capitalists use to shut out the competition as they get waivers.


17 posted on 04/26/2014 12:06:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

He’s already done it.. that’s the problem.
Obama, the left and the media did not account for the consequences of his actions and non actions.

He’s weakened our military
He’s apologized to all our enemies
He’s infuriated our allies
He’s made the United States a joke to those who should fear us.
Everything he’s done is backwards/wrong.
He doesn’t have a clue.
And the media is as much to blame as the clueless obamatrain. He could not have done this without the cover of the media and the spineless congress.

A message to those who might come to their senses after all this time and after all the damage which has been wrought:
It didn’t have to be like this.. all of this could have been prevented if you had just used a little common sense.


18 posted on 04/26/2014 12:08:22 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: fhayek

...and another thing. Obama pressed for the disarmament of Ukraine in the first place. He pledged support if Russia invaded. He made this huge bed, and Maher is whining that he now has to sleep in it. Don’t write checks you can’t cash.


19 posted on 04/26/2014 12:09:15 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How about being a strong leader?

That pretty much covers it, Bill. Impossible though, because it would require erasing his entire ideology, after doing away with his toxic narcissism.


20 posted on 04/26/2014 12:09:16 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It’s not what Obama should do NOW, but what he should have done THEN.

Then being not canceling the missile shield in Eastern Europe, not announcing we are discontinuing production of the Hellfire and Tomahawk missiles, not agreeing to reduce our nuclear stockpile, not appointing a succession of incompetent windbags as Secretary of State and not turning our military into an “all things gay are great” zone.

Not much he can do now.


21 posted on 04/26/2014 12:10:11 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Maher: GOP Shouts About Ukraine, But They ‘Never Quite Say What Obama Should Do’

Respond strongly but not directly but not directly by attacking Iran.

22 posted on 04/26/2014 12:12:12 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Since obozo is all about throwing away leverage, being a selfish weakling, downsizing military assets etc there isn’t a whole hell of a lot he can do...except get spanked and like it or start a war.

If you don’t scare ANYONE there is a good chance you’re going to have to fight or sit down and STFU.


23 posted on 04/26/2014 12:12:28 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: LostInBayport

Exactly right. Many republicans were against all of these things. Trouble is, the Boy Genius knows better than everyone else. He got himself into a quagmire and NOW the republicans are supposed to give him advice?


24 posted on 04/26/2014 12:13:35 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: ClearCase_guy
What is American strength?

Do we need 5000 nuke warheads and 6000 delivery systems? Or double that number.

Over and Over I keep seeing the freepers and the GOP saying that Obama is destroying America because he negotiated and the Senate ratified START.

Make that the first thing on your list. You, McCain and the NeoCons tell us how many nukes we need. Next, how many aircraft carrier battle groups do we need. And so forth.

Will I have to give up my SS check?

25 posted on 04/26/2014 12:13:38 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Maher: GOP Shouts About Ukraine, But They ‘Never Quite Say What Obama Should Do’

Here's an easy one:

STOP STIRRING THE POT!

26 posted on 04/26/2014 12:13:47 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Maher: GOP Shouts About Ukraine, But They ‘Never Quite Say What Obama Should Do’”

It isn’t them that you should be worried about. It should be how much is O going to F-Up whatever decision he makes.


27 posted on 04/26/2014 12:14:08 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: cripplecreek

The twitter version: Peace through superior firepower; and remember: “The borrower is servant to the lender”.

Alternative Twitter version: “If you want peace, prepare for war, and pay your debts.


28 posted on 04/26/2014 12:17:16 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Diogenesis

yep


29 posted on 04/26/2014 12:21:56 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

All I know is that Moscow is NOT a threat to my personal Liberty, but DC certainly is.


30 posted on 04/26/2014 12:23:30 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I think the old country song says it best: If you can’t bite, don’t growl.


31 posted on 04/26/2014 12:35:13 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Maher: GOP Shouts About Ukraine, But They ‘Never Quite Say What Obama Should Do’

Well A-HOLE, it seems to me that what they want the idiot to do, is lead! Zero asked the nation for the job of leader but all he wants to do is hide behind others and play.

32 posted on 04/26/2014 12:35:17 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Maher asked, then, what exactly President Obama‘s supposed to do, calling out Republicans for criticizing Obama every which way on Ukraine but “they never say quite what Obama should do.”

Dems ask the same things about healthcare... what would we do? Elect Republicans and find out...

33 posted on 04/26/2014 12:36:56 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats are waging war on the middle class...)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Self-immolation would be good, Ukraine notwithstanding.


34 posted on 04/26/2014 12:37:28 PM PDT by tomkat (3% +1)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Well for starters Obama could pull his head out of his ass.


35 posted on 04/26/2014 12:38:09 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: JimRed

I agree. Call the Euroweenies back from vacation and remind them of all the times they laughed at needing a military over a welfare state and then show them Russia at their doorstep.


36 posted on 04/26/2014 12:41:03 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Ben, for heaven’s sake, you don’t understand the lead up to World Wars I and II? Come on guy. Are you saying Reagan was an idiot because he believed in peace through strength. Come on...


37 posted on 04/26/2014 12:44:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Well, it’s nice to see you and John Kerry have so much in common when it comes to national defense.


38 posted on 04/26/2014 12:45:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: pallis

He should try and prove he is the irresistible lover boy, put lipstick on and see if Putin is not going to cut his transvestite head but bow to his Fed Reserve Bling. FUBO.


39 posted on 04/26/2014 12:47:51 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I asked the same question repeatedly about Iraq. The answer usually boiled down to “let the hajis win.”

I don’t think so.

I don’t think we should go to war with Russia over this, and I’m far from being an expert in international relations and the available tools a nation uses to bend others to its will, but I’m pretty sure “nothing but talk” is not a good use of influence.


40 posted on 04/26/2014 12:47:58 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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Hey, Maher, if Obama is so smart, why does he need to know anything from the GOP on what to do?

To me, it is plain that Putin is Obama’s boss.

That is why Obama keeps getting owned by Vlad, and the reason for the flexible” comment.


41 posted on 04/26/2014 1:01:10 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Mac daddy does not listen, he is busy drawing meaningless red lines.


42 posted on 04/26/2014 1:02:32 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Republicans should say:
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Our fighting in wars in other lands for the last hundred years is taking its toll on us as it did on Britain. Our forward policy should be commerce for all but war for none. In a world of Russia, China and Islam, another war would be existential for us. Advance our military distance and defense capability. An economically strong well armed America will deter the world from attacking us.
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But the GOP won’t.


43 posted on 04/26/2014 1:04:50 PM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: xzins

I agree with O’Reilly at times and the best sanction idea was made by him...restrict all travel AND persuade the major credit card companies to cut off all use there...

That would severely cripple their economy


44 posted on 04/26/2014 1:06:30 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: VanDeKoik

The really scary thing... the guy will come to a decision.

If that doesn’t scare the living hell out of you, you’re probably toes up!


45 posted on 04/26/2014 1:10:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: Jarhead9297; P-Marlowe

European and Asian banks also have credit cards and other countries have nice travel locations.

Sanctions are a joke.

We either do something effective about a military incursion or we don’t.

1. Nothing.

2. Arms sales and training for the former eastern bloc + Ukraine, to include the ABMs.

It’s really that simple.

Which do you think will lead to the best result?


46 posted on 04/26/2014 1:10:59 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: heye2monn
Regardless of what Russia does, there are many things we must do at home first.

What does that even mean? No foreign policy until energy policy is fixed or something?

47 posted on 04/26/2014 1:11:24 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Whatever Obama could have done should have been done long ago, not in late response to Putin's aggression.

For starters, Obama could have attended his daily intelligence briefings, daily. Then he'd be more aware of the trends and not just the spot activities.

Obama should not have been destabilizing the American military by mass replacing the top leadership of all the branches. That leaves us currently disorganized and weakened.

Obama should not have dithered, waffled, and otherwise dragged his feet on many domestic issues such as the Keystone XL pipeline. It just gave the world the impression of him as an indecisive leader who can't separate short-term and long-term goals.

Obama should not have lied repeatedly and brazenly over Obamacare and everything else. It only sends the message to other world leaders that Obama does not negotiate in good faith, and his words cannot be trusted.

-PJ

48 posted on 04/26/2014 1:11:47 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Hey Maher Republicans will just have to do the same thing that was done with Jimmy Carter! The Pubs will have to bring in another Ronald Reagan to clean up the mess! There is only ONE President - it sucks to be Ubama. He flunked lunch at Harvard and never had to manage a thing in his life. His legacy will be the number of golf matches he had while in the White House. It isn't up to the Republicans to say what they would do different. The truth of the matter is that Putin is having his way with Ubama. The USA got in this position because of the past actions of the Ubama admin. They suck at everything and the only thing that has them propped up is their propagandists in the media.

I am so glad I called my cable carrier years ago and told them to CANCEL HBO - I don't want to contribute a penny to Maher.

49 posted on 04/26/2014 1:13:00 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Hilarious - Obama makes a hash of foreign affairs and Maher attacks republicans.

Granted, theres not much Obama can do now.

Maher should have asked us five years ago what should've been done.

Of course, whisperings of better 'flexibility' after re-election probably wasn't such a good idea either.

50 posted on 04/26/2014 1:13:31 PM PDT by skeeter
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