Skip to comments.Maher: GOP Shouts About Ukraine, But They ‘Never Quite Say What Obama Should Do’
Posted on 04/26/2014 11:48:04 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
In the Overtime segment of his show, Bill Maher clashed with Daily Beast editor-in-chief John Avlon over Ukraine. Maher said the U.S. should respond to Russia shutting down talks by not giving a shit and mockingly continued, Im sorry, lets go have World War III over Crimea.
Avlon argued that just because America has a foreign war hangover it doesnt mean the U.S. doesnt have to care about what Vladimir Putin is doing. He called Putin a bully that will only stop when someone stands up to him.
Maher asked, then, what exactly President Obamas supposed to do, calling out Republicans for criticizing Obama every which way on Ukraine but they never say quite what Obama should do. He said, If youre not suggesting we should go to war or send troops, what are you saying?
Avlon pointed to U.S. troop exercises in Poland as a start, and lamented how the international community lacks the ability to coalesce around Putin and stop him from trying to reassert the borders of the USSR.
1) Trim the welfare state.
2) Bring back American jobs.
3) Restore freedom and initiative to this country.
4) Stop weakening our military.
The day comes where we will need a strong people, strong economy, and a strong military.
Crimea isn't the battlefield ... and that's good. Because we're not ready. But we should be getting ready.
Good points. Regardless of what Russia does, there are many things we must do at home first.
His first move should be to resign and turn the reins over to somebody with a higher IQ, like Joe Biden! Or maybe a higher IQ, like “Bo, the dog”!
Syria? Iran? China? Russia? Re-Invade Iraq?
You, McCain, and the NeoCons need to put together a list of priorities about who we will be going to war with.
What should Obama do?
He should go to the Ukraine, and challenge Putin to one on one fight to settle the issue.
He should release his documents,
admit he lied,
apologize on his knees, and then resign.
US should borrow more money from China and Japan and start a war in Ukraine. Why not? our Treasury is in the hock barely $17 Trillion. What’s a few more Trillions in debt?
But wait just a minute...every major power in history fell into the abyss with foreign military adventures with a bankrupt treasury. So what! Just ignore history!
I don’t want us to go to war with anyone.
And the best way to prevent that is to be strong. Are you opposed to American strength? I listed 4 concrete points. Do you oppose any of them? If not, why are you sniping at me?
Obama’s already acted. He destroyed our economy and our military strength and that is what emboldened Putin to make his moves. What should Obama do now to counter? Obvious. RESIGN!
Mayer’s correct. The DC GOP doesn’t do anything but pretend to be pro-Constitution and conservative to get elected. What we should do is stop the global meddling and worry about the US being on a very fast slippery slope into the trash heap of failed empires.
I actually agree with that unless you're talking about McCain, Linda, and William Krystol, and the crew at Weekly Standard.
They all want to attack....into the valley of death rode the 600.
Most of the conservative media harps on sanctions of one form or another. Sanctions are a joke unless it's some landlocked, enemy-surrounded state like Servia of Bosnian war fame. Thinking that sanctions will affect a nation the size and resources of Russia is simply for public consumption. It will affect nothing.
The most common alternate answers are to: (1) Arm the Ukraine or (2) Do nothing.
Let Europe handle it; it’s their turn.
Uh, he’s the president. I didn’t know that it was the Republicans’ responsibility to hold his hand. He wouldn’t listen anyway.
Sanctions are a tool that crony capitalists use to shut out the competition as they get waivers.
He’s already done it.. that’s the problem.
Obama, the left and the media did not account for the consequences of his actions and non actions.
He’s weakened our military
He’s apologized to all our enemies
He’s infuriated our allies
He’s made the United States a joke to those who should fear us.
Everything he’s done is backwards/wrong.
He doesn’t have a clue.
And the media is as much to blame as the clueless obamatrain. He could not have done this without the cover of the media and the spineless congress.
A message to those who might come to their senses after all this time and after all the damage which has been wrought:
It didn’t have to be like this.. all of this could have been prevented if you had just used a little common sense.
...and another thing. Obama pressed for the disarmament of Ukraine in the first place. He pledged support if Russia invaded. He made this huge bed, and Maher is whining that he now has to sleep in it. Don’t write checks you can’t cash.
How about being a strong leader?
That pretty much covers it, Bill. Impossible though, because it would require erasing his entire ideology, after doing away with his toxic narcissism.
It’s not what Obama should do NOW, but what he should have done THEN.
Then being not canceling the missile shield in Eastern Europe, not announcing we are discontinuing production of the Hellfire and Tomahawk missiles, not agreeing to reduce our nuclear stockpile, not appointing a succession of incompetent windbags as Secretary of State and not turning our military into an “all things gay are great” zone.
Not much he can do now.
Respond strongly but not directly but not directly by attacking Iran.
Since obozo is all about throwing away leverage, being a selfish weakling, downsizing military assets etc there isn’t a whole hell of a lot he can do...except get spanked and like it or start a war.
If you don’t scare ANYONE there is a good chance you’re going to have to fight or sit down and STFU.
Exactly right. Many republicans were against all of these things. Trouble is, the Boy Genius knows better than everyone else. He got himself into a quagmire and NOW the republicans are supposed to give him advice?
Do we need 5000 nuke warheads and 6000 delivery systems? Or double that number.
Over and Over I keep seeing the freepers and the GOP saying that Obama is destroying America because he negotiated and the Senate ratified START.
Make that the first thing on your list. You, McCain and the NeoCons tell us how many nukes we need. Next, how many aircraft carrier battle groups do we need. And so forth.
Will I have to give up my SS check?
Here's an easy one:
STOP STIRRING THE POT!
“Maher: GOP Shouts About Ukraine, But They Never Quite Say What Obama Should Do”
It isn’t them that you should be worried about. It should be how much is O going to F-Up whatever decision he makes.
The twitter version: Peace through superior firepower; and remember: “The borrower is servant to the lender”.
Alternative Twitter version: “If you want peace, prepare for war, and pay your debts.
All I know is that Moscow is NOT a threat to my personal Liberty, but DC certainly is.
I think the old country song says it best: If you can’t bite, don’t growl.
Well A-HOLE, it seems to me that what they want the idiot to do, is lead! Zero asked the nation for the job of leader but all he wants to do is hide behind others and play.
Dems ask the same things about healthcare... what would we do? Elect Republicans and find out...
Self-immolation would be good, Ukraine notwithstanding.
Well for starters Obama could pull his head out of his ass.
I agree. Call the Euroweenies back from vacation and remind them of all the times they laughed at needing a military over a welfare state and then show them Russia at their doorstep.
Ben, for heaven’s sake, you don’t understand the lead up to World Wars I and II? Come on guy. Are you saying Reagan was an idiot because he believed in peace through strength. Come on...
Well, it’s nice to see you and John Kerry have so much in common when it comes to national defense.
He should try and prove he is the irresistible lover boy, put lipstick on and see if Putin is not going to cut his transvestite head but bow to his Fed Reserve Bling. FUBO.
I asked the same question repeatedly about Iraq. The answer usually boiled down to “let the hajis win.”
I don’t think so.
I don’t think we should go to war with Russia over this, and I’m far from being an expert in international relations and the available tools a nation uses to bend others to its will, but I’m pretty sure “nothing but talk” is not a good use of influence.
Hey, Maher, if Obama is so smart, why does he need to know anything from the GOP on what to do?
To me, it is plain that Putin is Obama’s boss.
That is why Obama keeps getting owned by Vlad, and the reason for the flexible” comment.
Mac daddy does not listen, he is busy drawing meaningless red lines.
Republicans should say:
Our fighting in wars in other lands for the last hundred years is taking its toll on us as it did on Britain. Our forward policy should be commerce for all but war for none. In a world of Russia, China and Islam, another war would be existential for us. Advance our military distance and defense capability. An economically strong well armed America will deter the world from attacking us.
But the GOP won’t.
I agree with O’Reilly at times and the best sanction idea was made by him...restrict all travel AND persuade the major credit card companies to cut off all use there...
That would severely cripple their economy
The really scary thing... the guy will come to a decision.
If that doesn’t scare the living hell out of you, you’re probably toes up!
European and Asian banks also have credit cards and other countries have nice travel locations.
Sanctions are a joke.
We either do something effective about a military incursion or we don’t.
2. Arms sales and training for the former eastern bloc + Ukraine, to include the ABMs.
It’s really that simple.
Which do you think will lead to the best result?
What does that even mean? No foreign policy until energy policy is fixed or something?
For starters, Obama could have attended his daily intelligence briefings, daily. Then he'd be more aware of the trends and not just the spot activities.
Obama should not have been destabilizing the American military by mass replacing the top leadership of all the branches. That leaves us currently disorganized and weakened.
Obama should not have dithered, waffled, and otherwise dragged his feet on many domestic issues such as the Keystone XL pipeline. It just gave the world the impression of him as an indecisive leader who can't separate short-term and long-term goals.
Obama should not have lied repeatedly and brazenly over Obamacare and everything else. It only sends the message to other world leaders that Obama does not negotiate in good faith, and his words cannot be trusted.
I am so glad I called my cable carrier years ago and told them to CANCEL HBO - I don't want to contribute a penny to Maher.
Granted, theres not much Obama can do now.
Maher should have asked us five years ago what should've been done.
Of course, whisperings of better 'flexibility' after re-election probably wasn't such a good idea either.