Skip to comments.Cliven Bundy and a nation of cowards
Posted on 04/26/2014 8:05:08 PM PDT by kindred
Prior to revealing once again what duplicitous, dishonest race baiting liars infest The New York Times and the spinelessness which continues to ulcerate the Republican Party and those phonies who claim to stand for its long forgotten guiding principles, it needs to be made clear just who and what Cliven Bundy is.
Who is Cliven Bundy, really?
Cliven Bundy is a man who hails from an earlier generation, not savvy in the ways of political two-stepping which, while he has been struggling to keep a family business viable, has been refined to an art form by those in Washington D.C. and the mainstream media.
Cliven Bundy is hardened to the environment of hot, windy and dry deserts, where finding a small patch of grazing grass could mean the difference between life an death for his livestock, his employees and the ranch which has survived the elements for generations. He is a man who knows his mind and his heart and he is a man who speaks from them.
Cliven Bundy has fallen prey to the arrogant and manipulative progressive agenda driven press. And right on cue, as predictable as lies in an Obama hate speech, yellow bellied conservative politicians and pundits offer up their tiny little dust bunny brains to be vacuumed from the debate. But moron our side in a moment.
The white mans speech code
What Cliven Bundy has failed to learn, is that white people in this new generation, have been funneled into very tiny area of free speech. He wasnt informed that there are certain words which cant be used, under the certainty of banishment from society, when discussing topics of race.
For example, the word cotton is just fine as long as you are referencing the undergarments of a same sex couple. The word porch, is also fine if you are talking about not being able to build one in violation of Agenda 21. But the use of these two words as well as several others, is prohibited in any sentence or phrase subjecting in race. Cliven Bundy missed that memo. He may have been occupied with something called, work.
The poltroons gallery
Getting back now to that despicable rag, once the go to place for all the news fit to print which has now become all the leftist propaganda that fits in print. One could forgive Cliven Bundy for falling prey to those scoundrels, as once again they edit and manipulate the words of a political enemy to fit their repulsive agenda. But those on our side, the likes of Hannity, Greta and that self serving Beck, as well as Rand Paul, all of whom know the filthy rules of this game, they instantly jump aboard the attack train, shivering in the knowledge and outrage that a white person actually used the words, cotton and porch.
Keeping in mind, these nervous poltroons, the same brilliant sophisticates who for over six years now have failed to recognize Obama for the Constitutionally ineligible race baiting Communist he is, have profoundly and assertively pronounced that a hard working private citizen is a racist dog.
Please review these two embeds. The first is the unedited version of what Cliven Bundy said. While his expertise clearly does not dwell in grammatical prose and for sure does not employ political two-stepping, there is not one word of what he says that can be intellectually disputed.
The second is the edited version which, for those not understanding the parameters of the business of journalism and the need to conserve time and print, left out comments which clearly show Cliven Bundys concern for the minorities and the harm which has come to them.
(Editors Note: Maybe The New York Times didnt want you to catch those remarks. But Ambassador Alan Keyes caught them.)
Of all those supposedly on our side, the right side, Glenn Beck is by far the most repulsive with his parading around the set of the Network you are building gloating and bubbling with excitement over the demise of Rancher Bundy. You need to understand here, that Mr. Beck believes his audience is made up of a bunch of idiots with attention deficit disorder. What many may not know is that Glenn had put himself in a very tight pickle last week.
His viewers and his website visitors were outraged and they let him know it. If you missed it, Glenn in his typical, Im so smart and youre so stupid pomposity, declared that those great Americans who went to the aid of a private citizen being bankrupted by the Federal Government, were no better than the Occupy Wall Street vermin. You remember them. The drug addicted, slothful, intentionally unemployed New Americans who despise hard work and material goods. Those who whiled away their occupy hours raping fellow occupiers and crapping in flower gardens, curbs and on parked cars.
Granting his listeners with all the recollection ability of 4th stage Alzheimer victims, Glenn could hardly contain his glee as he refocused from denigrating patriots to joining The New York Times in pulverizing a private citizen. Great job Mr. Beck.
For Glenns sake and the many others whos yellow de-racing stripes seem to have obscured their ability to comprehend what Cliven said. Here it is in plain language.
The Federal Government, which is dominated by lifetime operatives of the Democratic Party, have created a class of people who dont need to work. Those people, at the detriment of each of their lives and the future of their children are used by the Democrats as pawns. The party that fought civil rights, that held a former KKK Senator in the highest of regard, is keeping the black population in a kind of slavery for the purpose of maintaining a voting block which keeps the progressives in power and in control.
in his own way, Mr. Bundy charged the Federal Government and its proxy, the Democratic Party of creating and perpetuating a form of slavery and prideless existence that may well be less gratifying than the time when they worked hard and held core family values, even as they endured the plight of slavery. Cliven Bundy did not blame Black Americans for this. He placed the blame right where it belongs. The progressives cannot have that. Can they?
If you will recall, Eric Holder, very early on in his tenure of destroying our Constitution, made a statement which infuriated me as well as others. He said
America is a nation of cowards when it comes to talking about race.
My gosh Mr. Holder, why do you suppose that is?
I watch FOX news, but after they ie, Bill O’Reilly used this piece from the NYT (Really Bill, you’re using the NY Times?) I’m about to give up on FOX as well.
Well written. And it certainly needs to be said. I find it discouraging how easily the racist manipulators in the lamestream press can destroy conservative reputations, even among Freepers.
One wrong word, and whoever they attack is finished.
Nonsense. What he said was perfectly true. LBJ and his Democrat Plantation, which broke up black families and perverted or destroyed their culture, is in many ways worse than slavery.
That is not to say that slavery is supportable or excusable. It merely points out how EVIL the Democrat manipulation of black culture has been.
It’s not accidental that the Democrats were, in fact, the chief supporters of slavery and Jim Crow laws—until they saw a way to enslave blacks and put them back on the plantation through political manipulation and misuse of taxpayer money.
And conservatives are dropping Cliven Bundy like a hot potato because he didn’t say this carefully enough, using the right language? Language which the Orwellian left is constantly changing, so as to trap the opposition?
What a load of horse manure.
Amen to that.
Why wouldn’t Ted Baxter use the NY Slimes?
Didn’t Cliven Bundy volunteer his statement, unsolicited? If he did, then he made a grave mistake - one that even he could have easily avoided.
If he was led into making the statement, and I don’t believe he was, then that puts it in a different light, and I’m much more forgiving of his error.
No doubt, the liberals would have certainly tried to lure him into such a trap - and it may have happened anyway - but with all the examples out there of how they bring down an opponent, and where they most like to attack, shouldn’t he have known better than to hand it all to them voluntarily?
If I have it wrong, about him not being led into the trap, then I’m happy to be corrected on that aspect of the matter.
Nobody,it seems, will say what is on their mind.
But I will.
Judge Pierro tells it like it is about Hairy Reid:
Great article. Cliven Bundy continues to draw out the enimies of freedom.
Was he right in what he said? I think so.
Was he right in saying it? Not strategically speaking. There was no upside to his comments, even if he had been heard absolutely correctly by sympathetic listeners - none.
In terms of winning his point and loosening the federal stranglehold on private citizens - it was a foolish thing to say; obviously incendiary with no chance of helping his case.
A caveat, if he was led into making the statement, I am more sympathetic.
The “Bad” words are changed so often by Mr. Microphone,who could keep track ?
They are out to destroy You at all costs so understand that and focus.
As wise as Serpents and gentle as Doves.
I thought it was “ harmless as doves.” (not that it makes any vast difference)
We’ll have see how Vanity and the rest two step on Monday. I predict that Beck will look straight into the camera and say “isn’t it shameful how these Conservatives were duped? I’ve stood with Mr Bundy all along.”
Oh, and to the author; Well done!
But the use of these two words as well as several others, is prohibited in any sentence or phrase subjecting in race. Cliven Bundy missed that memo.
I put that memo in the shredder and burned the chads.
Speak the truth. Repeat the truth when challenged. Never back down, never apologize. The Truth will make you free.
I learned a long time ago that press personnel can be issue baiters for whatever cause they choose. There is no honor when matters come to making a story. A person has to be very, very careful when dealing with modern day press personnel and Mr. Bundy has just been given a lesson in a time frame past his generation. I say this from being older than Mr. Bundy and having experience in dealing with the press.
He spoke the truth. The democrat party has made welfare slaves of a huge fraction of the black population in America. They're bought and paid for ... with OUR tax money ... and they do their masters' bidding.
Try to follow - it isn’t a matter of truth or false. One can speak the truth and still make a mistake, as Bundy did here.
It doesn’t matter that he was right - and I’ve said I think he is right in what he said - what matters is in saying it, he hamstrung his case, and for no good purpose. There was no chance that saying what he said would help his cause - all it could do is hurt it, and it has.
This was predictable, so it was an error to make a statement, even a true statement, that was harmful to his case with no chance of helping it.
He should have stayed focused on his cause, it was all going his way - now, not so much.
We know better.
What about the millions of “negroes” that ow their own businesses and the even more numerous poor whites on welfare? Why in the world would he pick out some blacks?
Try not to be a condescending jackass.
I’m sick of a hypersensitive, eager to be offended society in which everyone must walk on eggshells to avoid falling afoul some unwritten speech rule invented by the communists in Big Media.
Hurt his cause??
I’ll tell you what’s hurting his cause:
YOU ARE!!! You and all the other supposedly conservative morons who are jumping his case because some simpering faggot at the New York Times told you to. Cut it out. You’re disgusting. That goes double for supposed conservative leaders like Beck, Hannity, and the increasingly insane Rand Paul.
It is hard NOT to be condescending to someone so devoid of strategic thought.
I don’t take my cues from anybody - I heard about it, then listened to Bundy say what he had to say, did not listen to anybody else before forming my opinion that he made a grave strategic error. I don’t care what he was talking about, I don’t care if it was PC or not, all I care about is that it derailed Bundy’s cause, and his cause was on the way to doing serious damage to the BLM, the feds and Harry and the kid.
I suppose, in your pursuit of speaking the truth, if you were introduced to your pastor’s (or boss’s, or important customer’s) heavyset wife you would feel obliged to spout, “Gee, you’re fat!” wouldn’t you? Well, it would be true, so you would be right! And instead of walking on eggshells you will speak the truth...and be set free! Right? No, it would be a strategic mistake - just like Bundy’s statement was.
The only thing that should matter for Bundy is if he helps his cause. He didn’t, he hurt it. And the damage was predictable. So you tell me, is doing something that predictably hurts your legitimate interests a smart thing, a good thing, the right thing?
I’m hurting his cause? Hardly!! I only dream my words have so much impact - but if I could speak to Cliven, I would say the same thing to try and help him regain his focus. I’m speaking here in what I fear is a futile attempt to get the discussion back on track - but idiots like you want to keep it off topic in order to prove what? That you have no idea how to win a debate?
You are so ignorant of what is actually happening that you expend your energy defending the correctness of what he said (when I have never said he was wrong in what he said, only in saying it) - which is EXACTLY what Harry and the Whores want you to do. What they don’t want is for us to ignore what he said, and stay focused on grazing rights and BLM and Harry’s felonious pocket-lining and federal force and intimidation of citizens. So you go right ahead and do exactly what Harry Reid is hoping you will do. I will condescendingly pat you on the head, and talk to folks who have a clue.
I remember the adage,’there is no such thing as a stupid question’. Guess Bundy wasn’t given that leeway.
So you say ... your actions prove otherwise.
all I care about is that it derailed Bundys cause
"It" did nothing. A militant homosexual communist at the New York Times tried to derail Mr. Bundy. You're helping the queers in Big Media. Shame on you.
If hardcore tyranny comes to this nation. Rush, Hannity, Beck, Levin, Coulter, and the rest will prostitute their talents to the fascist oligarchy. They will lick the jack boots crushing our necks. Bet on it.
Im speaking here in what I fear is a futile attempt to get the discussion back on track
Horsecrap! Again. If you were serious, you'd be talking about BLM overreach, Jackbooted thugs, screwed up land rights, and Harry Reid's corruption.
But you're not. You're on several threads, ranting against Mr. Bundy.
I am beginning to think you are a paid troll.
You’re a fool - that’s what I’ve been talking about. I didn’t change the subject, Bundy did of his own free will, and you toddled right along after him - doing exactly what Harry wants you to do.
You exemplify poor strategy. The reporter’s sexual orientation has nothing to do with the issue - so you please Harry again with your bile. And the reporter did not entice Cliven to say what he said, Cliven said it voluntarily.
Do you have any family caught up in the BLM grazing rights battle? If not, then don’t try to preach to me about the subject at hand.
I am supposed to by intimidated by your insipid musings?
I have family in the fight, for your information - fighting the same fight, and the same folks as Bundy was fighting.
No, I’m railing against his foolish strategic faux pas - trying to get thinking folks to stop chasing the racial red herring and get back on the trail.
I think Judge Jeanine heard me.
Bravo...! Sunshine patriots (LOW INFORMATION VOTERS) turn traitor when the rubber hits the road.
Very eloquent and I agree with you. Shame Bundy didn’t have someone there to warn him about what the media would try to do to help the Reid cause.
I still don’t know what was asked Bundy in order to get his opinion on race. Had nothing at all to do with his cause.
It doesn’t really matter. He is going to prevail in the exchange. There are those that shake in their boots at the thought of PC language abuse. The control of the language is going to be the downfall of moon bats and those scared of moon bats.
I agree that that is true, but in this instance Bundy was naive. I know he isn’t a racist, but the climate we are in now, we need to focus on where we gain ground and not get tangled in the weeds.
Now each time Bundy and his plight is mentioned, it comes with a disavowal of his race comments.
It hurts, but we need to refocus on why we even know about Bundy. I think the attempt of the Texas land grab has refocused back to the government land grab.
The Texas rancher was on Judge Janine last night. He was very articulate and I sensed he will stay focused.
So if you are not a political pro get off the stage?
The war is conducted with words. Bundy’s words were totally correct and absolutely on the mark. He poked the hornet’s nest and stirred up trouble.
He did not get tangled in the weeds, he scythed the weeds.
When you advocate not telling the truth, you are an advocate of the lies.
Wow, talk about making stuff up. This is all made up by you. Who said he shouldn’t tell the truth? Fine, tell the truth and make sure you say it in a way that helps you instead of hurting you.
Like, if someone asks you about big government. Say” A large overreaching government helps nobody, it hasn’t helped blacks, the unemployed, small business and ranchers etc.”
Who said he should get off the stage? I hope he stays on the stage and wins his battle. Geesh
Think what you will - you are unimportant to me.
But I do appreciate your eloquent and snappy reply! LOLOL (laughing AT you)
Has to be something illegal going on when the media whips up hatred toward an old cow rancher. Some big scandal under the surface about to be uncovered, and needing serious distraction.
Yes, true. But he isn’t a politician, he’s a cowboy. And what he said wasn’t racist. He made a mistake giving the press an opening to slam him by misrepresenting what he said. That doesn’t mean conservatives should throw up their hands and toss him under the lying lamestream bus.
He's articulate and folksy and can win people over. I thought he is pro-invasion. That signals someone who would be in lock-step with the elite.