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Cliven Bundy and a nation of cowards
conservativenews and views.com ^ | 04/25/14 | Dwight Kehoe

Posted on 04/26/2014 8:05:08 PM PDT by kindred

Prior to revealing once again what duplicitous, dishonest race baiting liars infest The New York Times and the spinelessness which continues to ulcerate the Republican Party and those phonies who claim to stand for its long forgotten guiding principles, it needs to be made clear just who and what Cliven Bundy is.

Who is Cliven Bundy, really?

Cliven Bundy is a man who hails from an earlier generation, not savvy in the ways of “political two-stepping” which, while he has been struggling to keep a family business viable, has been refined to an art form by those in Washington D.C. and the mainstream media.

Cliven Bundy is hardened to the environment of hot, windy and dry deserts, where finding a small patch of grazing grass could mean the difference between life an death for his livestock, his employees and the ranch which has survived the elements for generations. He is a man who knows his mind and his heart and he is a man who speaks from them.

Cliven Bundy has fallen prey to the arrogant and manipulative progressive agenda driven press. And right on cue, as predictable as lies in an Obama hate speech, yellow bellied conservative politicians and pundits offer up their tiny little dust bunny brains to be vacuumed from the debate. But “moron” our side in a moment.

The white man’s speech code

What Cliven Bundy has failed to learn, is that white people in this new generation, have been funneled into very tiny area of free speech. He wasn’t informed that there are certain words which can’t be used, under the certainty of banishment from society, when discussing topics of race.

For example, the word cotton is just fine as long as you are referencing the undergarments of a same sex couple. The word porch, is also fine if you are talking about not being able to build one in violation of Agenda 21. But the use of these two words as well as several others, is prohibited in any sentence or phrase subjecting in race. Cliven Bundy missed that memo. He may have been occupied with something called, work.

The poltroons’ gallery

Getting back now to that despicable rag, once the go to place for all the news fit to print which has now become all the leftist propaganda that fits in print. One could forgive Cliven Bundy for falling prey to those scoundrels, as once again they edit and manipulate the words of a political enemy to fit their repulsive agenda. But those on our side, the likes of Hannity, Greta and that self serving Beck, as well as Rand Paul, all of whom know the filthy rules of this game, they instantly jump aboard the attack train, shivering in the knowledge and outrage that a white person actually used the words, cotton and porch.

Keeping in mind, these nervous poltroons, the same brilliant sophisticates who for over six years now have failed to recognize Obama for the Constitutionally ineligible race baiting Communist he is, have profoundly and assertively pronounced that a hard working private citizen is a racist dog.

Please review these two embeds. The first is the unedited version of what Cliven Bundy said. While his expertise clearly does not dwell in grammatical prose and for sure does not employ “political two-stepping”, there is not one word of what he says that can be intellectually disputed.

The second is the edited version which, for those not understanding the parameters of the business of journalism and the need to conserve time and print, left out comments which clearly show Cliven Bundy’s concern for the minorities and the harm which has come to them.

(Editor’s Note: Maybe The New York Times didn’t want you to catch those remarks. But Ambassador Alan Keyes caught them.)

Of all those supposedly on our side, the right side, Glenn Beck is by far the most repulsive with his parading around the set of the “Network you are building” gloating and bubbling with excitement over the demise of Rancher Bundy. You need to understand here, that Mr. Beck believes his audience is made up of a bunch of idiots with attention deficit disorder. What many may not know is that Glenn had put himself in a very tight pickle last week.

His viewers and his website visitors were outraged and they let him know it. If you missed it, Glenn in his typical, I’m so smart and you’re so stupid pomposity, declared that those great Americans who went to the aid of a private citizen being bankrupted by the Federal Government, were no better than the Occupy Wall Street vermin. You remember them. The drug addicted, slothful, intentionally unemployed New Americans who despise hard work and material goods. Those who whiled away their “occupy” hours raping fellow occupiers and crapping in flower gardens, curbs and on parked cars.

Granting his listeners with all the recollection ability of 4th stage Alzheimer victims, Glenn could hardly contain his glee as he refocused from denigrating patriots to joining The New York Times in pulverizing a private citizen. Great job Mr. Beck.

For Glenn’s sake and the many others who’s yellow “de-racing stripes” seem to have obscured their ability to comprehend what Cliven said. Here it is in plain language.

The Federal Government, which is dominated by lifetime operatives of the Democratic Party, have created a class of people who don’t need to work. Those people, at the detriment of each of their lives and the future of their children are used by the Democrats as pawns. The party that fought civil rights, that held a former KKK Senator in the highest of regard, is keeping the black population in a kind of slavery for the purpose of maintaining a voting block which keeps the progressives in power and in control.

in his own way, Mr. Bundy charged the Federal Government and its proxy, the Democratic Party of creating and perpetuating a form of slavery and prideless existence that may well be less gratifying than the time when they worked hard and held core family values, even as they endured the plight of slavery. Cliven Bundy did not blame Black Americans for this. He placed the blame right where it belongs. The progressives cannot have that. Can they?

If you will recall, Eric Holder, very early on in his tenure of destroying our Constitution, made a statement which infuriated me as well as others. He said

America is a nation of cowards when it comes to talking about race.

My gosh Mr. Holder, why do you suppose that is?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
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It seems the lamestream media of obamanation will lie and deceive the simple mush minded of the nation with impunity as they are and have been doing since the feminists took over and have been destroying this nation more effectively than a stanking army ever could have hoped to do.
1 posted on 04/26/2014 8:05:08 PM PDT by kindred
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To: kindred

I watch FOX news, but after they ie, Bill O’Reilly used this piece from the NYT (Really Bill, you’re using the NY Times?) I’m about to give up on FOX as well.


2 posted on 04/26/2014 8:09:56 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: kindred

Well written. And it certainly needs to be said. I find it discouraging how easily the racist manipulators in the lamestream press can destroy conservative reputations, even among Freepers.

One wrong word, and whoever they attack is finished.

Nonsense. What he said was perfectly true. LBJ and his Democrat Plantation, which broke up black families and perverted or destroyed their culture, is in many ways worse than slavery.

That is not to say that slavery is supportable or excusable. It merely points out how EVIL the Democrat manipulation of black culture has been.

It’s not accidental that the Democrats were, in fact, the chief supporters of slavery and Jim Crow laws—until they saw a way to enslave blacks and put them back on the plantation through political manipulation and misuse of taxpayer money.

And conservatives are dropping Cliven Bundy like a hot potato because he didn’t say this carefully enough, using the right language? Language which the Orwellian left is constantly changing, so as to trap the opposition?

What a load of horse manure.


3 posted on 04/26/2014 8:13:01 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: kindred
Now you people stop that... Or Ill Shoot!!



the author hit a home run with the bases loaded!

Thank you!
4 posted on 04/26/2014 8:14:47 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: kindred

5 posted on 04/26/2014 8:15:21 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: kindred
Sorry, it was a standing army. Half of the nation is at war and the other half has their heads buried in the sand with their butts bare ass naked up in the air for easier kicking. The racist obama regime is on the warpath and must be dealt with according to their racist hatred for those who work hard and profit therein.
It is time for the conservatives to pick their own candidate for President for a change as the right is sick of all the pantywaist conservatives put up the the rino left.
I feel ex Governor Huckabee would be great for all parties of the right wing and he would fight the good fight and is not a proud and arrogant man as so many of the liberal rino right wingers are.
6 posted on 04/26/2014 8:15:47 PM PDT by kindred (They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy. Salvation by Lord Jesus only!)
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To: Cicero

Amen to that.


7 posted on 04/26/2014 8:17:14 PM PDT by kindred (They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy. Salvation by Lord Jesus only!)
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To: Shadowstrike

Why wouldn’t Ted Baxter use the NY Slimes?


8 posted on 04/26/2014 8:19:44 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: kindred

Didn’t Cliven Bundy volunteer his statement, unsolicited? If he did, then he made a grave mistake - one that even he could have easily avoided.

If he was led into making the statement, and I don’t believe he was, then that puts it in a different light, and I’m much more forgiving of his error.

No doubt, the liberals would have certainly tried to lure him into such a trap - and it may have happened anyway - but with all the examples out there of how they bring down an opponent, and where they most like to attack, shouldn’t he have known better than to hand it all to them voluntarily?

If I have it wrong, about him not being led into the trap, then I’m happy to be corrected on that aspect of the matter.


9 posted on 04/26/2014 8:19:58 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: Shadowstrike

YES!

Nobody,it seems, will say what is on their mind.

But I will.

F’em all.


10 posted on 04/26/2014 8:20:17 PM PDT by logitech (It is time.)
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To: kindred

Spot On!


11 posted on 04/26/2014 8:23:35 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Shadowstrike; SkyPilot; justiceseeker93; ridesthemiles

Judge Pierro tells it like it is about Hairy Reid:

http://freedomfightersofamerica.blogspot.com/2014/04/judge-jeanine-pirro-opening-statement.html


12 posted on 04/26/2014 8:25:03 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: kindred

Great article. Cliven Bundy continues to draw out the enimies of freedom.


13 posted on 04/26/2014 8:35:16 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Cicero
I agree with almost your entire post - except this. It wasn't a case of saying it the “right” way or the “wrong” way. It needn't have been said at all.

Was he right in what he said? I think so.
Was he right in saying it? Not strategically speaking. There was no upside to his comments, even if he had been heard absolutely correctly by sympathetic listeners - none.

In terms of winning his point and loosening the federal stranglehold on private citizens - it was a foolish thing to say; obviously incendiary with no chance of helping his case.

A caveat, if he was led into making the statement, I am more sympathetic.

14 posted on 04/26/2014 8:41:54 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: logitech

The “Bad” words are changed so often by Mr. Microphone,who could keep track ?

They are out to destroy You at all costs so understand that and focus.

As wise as Serpents and gentle as Doves.


15 posted on 04/26/2014 8:42:21 PM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: Big Red Badger

I thought it was “…harmless as doves.” (not that it makes any vast difference)


16 posted on 04/26/2014 9:21:30 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Due to rapidly increasing cost of ammo, there will be no warning shots!!!)
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To: kindred

We’ll have see how Vanity and the rest two step on Monday. I predict that Beck will look straight into the camera and say “isn’t it shameful how these Conservatives were duped? I’ve stood with Mr Bundy all along.”


17 posted on 04/26/2014 9:26:04 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: kindred

Oh, and to the author; Well done!


18 posted on 04/26/2014 9:28:01 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: kindred
...the spinelessness which continues to ulcerate the Republican Party and those phonies who claim to stand for its long forgotten guiding principles...I was especially sad to see Krauthammer abandon Bundy so ferociously on Fox last week - as a psychiatrist he is doubtless very familiar with the concept of institutionalization, the idea that some people can becomes so acclimated to a bad situation such as a mental hospital or penitentiary that even when given the chance to leave, they wish to remain, and in fact can function very poorly outside the setting without considerable time and "rehabilitation" - and then there was the program I watched on the History Channel last weekend about the captivity of the Jewish people by the Egyptians. Though many Jews were held in slavery, the Egyptian law required that they be freed after six years of servitude. But a good number supposedly found the conditions under slavery less onerous than they would face if free, and often petitioned to remain with their masters. Bundy was only expressing a viewpoint similar to this - that for some slavery might not have been as destructive and threatening as what they faced when given their freedom - he expressed it without much articulateness and eloquence, but it is sad that more didn't want to take the time to try to hear what he was really saying - especially those who supposedly once made a living listening to and trying to understand others....
19 posted on 04/26/2014 9:29:03 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: kindred
VERY WELL SAID!!!

But the use of these two words as well as several others, is prohibited in any sentence or phrase subjecting in race. Cliven Bundy missed that memo.

I put that memo in the shredder and burned the chads.

Speak the truth. Repeat the truth when challenged. Never back down, never apologize. The Truth will make you free.

20 posted on 04/26/2014 9:43:49 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: kindred

I learned a long time ago that press personnel can be issue baiters for whatever cause they choose. There is no honor when matters come to making a story. A person has to be very, very careful when dealing with modern day press personnel and Mr. Bundy has just been given a lesson in a time frame past his generation. I say this from being older than Mr. Bundy and having experience in dealing with the press.


21 posted on 04/26/2014 9:44:51 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: GilesB
and I’m much more forgiving of his error.

Error? ERROR?!?!?!?!

Horseshit!

He spoke the truth. The democrat party has made welfare slaves of a huge fraction of the black population in America. They're bought and paid for ... with OUR tax money ... and they do their masters' bidding.

22 posted on 04/26/2014 9:48:04 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: NorthMountain

Try to follow - it isn’t a matter of truth or false. One can speak the truth and still make a mistake, as Bundy did here.

It doesn’t matter that he was right - and I’ve said I think he is right in what he said - what matters is in saying it, he hamstrung his case, and for no good purpose. There was no chance that saying what he said would help his cause - all it could do is hurt it, and it has.

This was predictable, so it was an error to make a statement, even a true statement, that was harmful to his case with no chance of helping it.

He should have stayed focused on his cause, it was all going his way - now, not so much.


23 posted on 04/26/2014 9:56:01 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: kindred; Jim Robinson
This is a Republic of the several States; the notion of nation can be twisted to say that a central government (prone to tyranny) knows best.

We know better.

24 posted on 04/26/2014 10:07:38 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Cicero

What about the millions of “negroes” that ow their own businesses and the even more numerous poor whites on welfare? Why in the world would he pick out some blacks?


25 posted on 04/26/2014 10:10:16 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: GilesB

Try not to be a condescending jackass.

I’m sick of a hypersensitive, eager to be offended society in which everyone must walk on eggshells to avoid falling afoul some unwritten speech rule invented by the communists in Big Media.

SCREW IT!

Hurt his cause??

I’ll tell you what’s hurting his cause:

YOU ARE!!! You and all the other supposedly conservative morons who are jumping his case because some simpering faggot at the New York Times told you to. Cut it out. You’re disgusting. That goes double for supposed conservative leaders like Beck, Hannity, and the increasingly insane Rand Paul.


26 posted on 04/26/2014 10:13:48 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: NorthMountain

It is hard NOT to be condescending to someone so devoid of strategic thought.

I don’t take my cues from anybody - I heard about it, then listened to Bundy say what he had to say, did not listen to anybody else before forming my opinion that he made a grave strategic error. I don’t care what he was talking about, I don’t care if it was PC or not, all I care about is that it derailed Bundy’s cause, and his cause was on the way to doing serious damage to the BLM, the feds and Harry and the kid.

I suppose, in your pursuit of speaking the truth, if you were introduced to your pastor’s (or boss’s, or important customer’s) heavyset wife you would feel obliged to spout, “Gee, you’re fat!” wouldn’t you? Well, it would be true, so you would be right! And instead of walking on eggshells you will speak the truth...and be set free! Right? No, it would be a strategic mistake - just like Bundy’s statement was.

The only thing that should matter for Bundy is if he helps his cause. He didn’t, he hurt it. And the damage was predictable. So you tell me, is doing something that predictably hurts your legitimate interests a smart thing, a good thing, the right thing?

I’m hurting his cause? Hardly!! I only dream my words have so much impact - but if I could speak to Cliven, I would say the same thing to try and help him regain his focus. I’m speaking here in what I fear is a futile attempt to get the discussion back on track - but idiots like you want to keep it off topic in order to prove what? That you have no idea how to win a debate?

You are so ignorant of what is actually happening that you expend your energy defending the correctness of what he said (when I have never said he was wrong in what he said, only in saying it) - which is EXACTLY what Harry and the Whores want you to do. What they don’t want is for us to ignore what he said, and stay focused on grazing rights and BLM and Harry’s felonious pocket-lining and federal force and intimidation of citizens. So you go right ahead and do exactly what Harry Reid is hoping you will do. I will condescendingly pat you on the head, and talk to folks who have a clue.


27 posted on 04/26/2014 10:38:38 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: Cicero

BUMP!


28 posted on 04/26/2014 10:38:44 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: kindred

I remember the adage,’there is no such thing as a stupid question’. Guess Bundy wasn’t given that leeway.


29 posted on 04/26/2014 10:41:16 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: GilesB
I don’t take my cues from anybody

So you say ... your actions prove otherwise.

all I care about is that it derailed Bundy’s cause

"It" did nothing. A militant homosexual communist at the New York Times tried to derail Mr. Bundy. You're helping the queers in Big Media. Shame on you.

30 posted on 04/26/2014 10:54:44 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: kindred
I stopped trusting the so-called “conservative” talk show weenies when they BLATANTLY failed to notice in 2008 that Obama was very likely ineligible to be president. Then they ignored it AGAIN in 2012. Coulter even had the audacity to call the Article 2, Section 1, defender CRANKS and used the KKK to push home her point.

My conclusion:

If hardcore tyranny comes to this nation. Rush, Hannity, Beck, Levin, Coulter, and the rest will prostitute their talents to the fascist oligarchy. They will lick the jack boots crushing our necks. Bet on it.

31 posted on 04/26/2014 10:58:01 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: GilesB
Missed this whopper first time through:

I’m speaking here in what I fear is a futile attempt to get the discussion back on track

Horsecrap! Again. If you were serious, you'd be talking about BLM overreach, Jackbooted thugs, screwed up land rights, and Harry Reid's corruption.

But you're not. You're on several threads, ranting against Mr. Bundy.

32 posted on 04/26/2014 10:58:23 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: GilesB

I am beginning to think you are a paid troll.


33 posted on 04/26/2014 11:00:35 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: NorthMountain

You’re a fool - that’s what I’ve been talking about. I didn’t change the subject, Bundy did of his own free will, and you toddled right along after him - doing exactly what Harry wants you to do.

You exemplify poor strategy. The reporter’s sexual orientation has nothing to do with the issue - so you please Harry again with your bile. And the reporter did not entice Cliven to say what he said, Cliven said it voluntarily.

Do you have any family caught up in the BLM grazing rights battle? If not, then don’t try to preach to me about the subject at hand.


34 posted on 04/26/2014 11:16:23 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: wintertime

I am supposed to by intimidated by your insipid musings?

I have family in the fight, for your information - fighting the same fight, and the same folks as Bundy was fighting.


35 posted on 04/26/2014 11:18:23 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: NorthMountain

No, I’m railing against his foolish strategic faux pas - trying to get thinking folks to stop chasing the racial red herring and get back on the trail.

I think Judge Jeanine heard me.


36 posted on 04/26/2014 11:41:44 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: kindred

bkmk


37 posted on 04/27/2014 2:15:45 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? ;-)
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To: NorthMountain

Bravo...! Sunshine patriots (LOW INFORMATION VOTERS) turn traitor when the rubber hits the road.


38 posted on 04/27/2014 3:33:16 AM PDT by swampfox101 (l)
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To: GilesB

Yeah! Right!


39 posted on 04/27/2014 4:43:40 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: GilesB

Very eloquent and I agree with you. Shame Bundy didn’t have someone there to warn him about what the media would try to do to help the Reid cause.

I still don’t know what was asked Bundy in order to get his opinion on race. Had nothing at all to do with his cause.


40 posted on 04/27/2014 5:03:32 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest

It doesn’t really matter. He is going to prevail in the exchange. There are those that shake in their boots at the thought of PC language abuse. The control of the language is going to be the downfall of moon bats and those scared of moon bats.


41 posted on 04/27/2014 5:10:46 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert

I agree that that is true, but in this instance Bundy was naive. I know he isn’t a racist, but the climate we are in now, we need to focus on where we gain ground and not get tangled in the weeds.

Now each time Bundy and his plight is mentioned, it comes with a disavowal of his race comments.

It hurts, but we need to refocus on why we even know about Bundy. I think the attempt of the Texas land grab has refocused back to the government land grab.

The Texas rancher was on Judge Janine last night. He was very articulate and I sensed he will stay focused.


42 posted on 04/27/2014 5:19:30 AM PDT by dforest
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To: NorthMountain
Hurt his cause??
I’ll tell you what’s hurting his cause:
YOU ARE!!! You and all the other supposedly conservative morons who are jumping his case because some simpering faggot at the New York Times told you to. Cut it out. You’re disgusting. That goes double for supposed conservative leaders like Beck, Hannity, and the increasingly insane Rand Paul.


43 posted on 04/27/2014 5:27:47 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: dforest

So if you are not a political pro get off the stage?

absolute drivel.

The war is conducted with words. Bundy’s words were totally correct and absolutely on the mark. He poked the hornet’s nest and stirred up trouble.

He did not get tangled in the weeds, he scythed the weeds.

When you advocate not telling the truth, you are an advocate of the lies.


44 posted on 04/27/2014 5:30:38 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert

Wow, talk about making stuff up. This is all made up by you. Who said he shouldn’t tell the truth? Fine, tell the truth and make sure you say it in a way that helps you instead of hurting you.

Like, if someone asks you about big government. Say” A large overreaching government helps nobody, it hasn’t helped blacks, the unemployed, small business and ranchers etc.”

Next question.

Who said he should get off the stage? I hope he stays on the stage and wins his battle. Geesh


45 posted on 04/27/2014 5:36:00 AM PDT by dforest
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To: NorthMountain

46 posted on 04/27/2014 5:48:44 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: wintertime

Think what you will - you are unimportant to me.

But I do appreciate your eloquent and snappy reply! LOLOL (laughing AT you)


47 posted on 04/27/2014 6:25:09 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: kindred

Has to be something illegal going on when the media whips up hatred toward an old cow rancher. Some big scandal under the surface about to be uncovered, and needing serious distraction.


48 posted on 04/27/2014 6:48:49 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: GilesB

Yes, true. But he isn’t a politician, he’s a cowboy. And what he said wasn’t racist. He made a mistake giving the press an opening to slam him by misrepresenting what he said. That doesn’t mean conservatives should throw up their hands and toss him under the lying lamestream bus.


49 posted on 04/27/2014 7:18:59 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: kindred
Huckabee has a lot of 'pubs who like to mention his negatives. I wonder how much of that is that he made such a serious run for the nomination that they had to prop up McCain as the "unstoppable favorite" in order to deny Huckabee any chance at the nomination.

He's articulate and folksy and can win people over. I thought he is pro-invasion. That signals someone who would be in lock-step with the elite.

50 posted on 04/27/2014 7:27:38 AM PDT by grania
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