Skip to comments.Russian Su -24 scores off against the American "USS Donald Cook"
Posted on 04/27/2014 5:13:29 AM PDT by Renfield
Russian Sukhoi Su -24 with the newest jamming complex paralyzed in the Black Sea the most modern American combat management system "Aegis" installed on the destroyer "USS Donald Cook". Pavel Zolotarev, Deputy Director, Institute of USA and Canada, shares details about this version which is being actively discussed in the Russian media and by bloggers.
US destroyer "Donald Cook" with cruise missiles "Tomahawk" entered the neutral waters of the Black Sea on April 10. The purpose was a demonstration of force and intimidation in connection with the position of Russia in Ukraine and Crimea. The appearance of American warships in these waters is in contradiction of the Montreux Convention about the nature and duration of stay in the Black Sea by the military ships of countries not washed by this sea.
In response, Russia sent an unarmed bomber Su- 24 to fly around the U.S. destroyer. However, experts say that this plane was equipped with the latest Russian electronic warfare complex. According to this version, "Aegis" spotted from afar the approaching aircraft, and sounded alarm. Everything went normally, American radars calculated the speed of the approaching target. And suddenly all the screens went blank. "Aegis" was not working any more, and the rockets could not get target information. Meanwhile, Su-24 flew over the deck of the destroyer, did battle turn and simulated missile attack on the target. Then it turned and repeated the maneuver. And did so 12 times.
Apparently, all efforts to revive the "Aegis" and provide target information for the defence failed. Russia's reaction to military pressure from the United States was profoundly calm, feels the Russian political scientist Pavel Zolotarev:
The demonstration was original enough. A bomber without any weapons, but having onboard equipment for jamming enemy radar, worked against a destroyer equipped with "Aegis", the most modern system of air and missile defence. But this system of mobile location, in this case the ship, has a significant drawback. That is, the target tracking capabilities. They work well when there is a number of these ships which can coordinate with each other somehow. In this case there was just one destroyer. And, apparently, the algorithm of the radar in the "Aegis system on the destroyer did not load under the influence of jamming by the Su-24. It was therefore not only a nervous reaction to the fact of flying around by the Russin bomber which was common practice during the Cold War. The reaction of the Americans was due to the fact that most modern system, especially its informative or radar part, did not work adequately. Therefore, there was such a nervous reaction to the whole episode.
After the incident, the foreign media reported that "Donald Cook" was rushed into a port in Romania. There all the 27 members of the crew filed a letter of resignation. It seems that all 27 people have written that they are not going to risk their lives. This is indirectly confirmed by the Pentagon statement according to which the action demoralized the crew of the American ship.
What are the possible consequences of the incident provoked by the U.S. in the Black Sea? Pavel Zolotarev forecasts:
I think that Americans are somehow going to reflect on improving the system Aegis". This is a purely military aspect. In political terms, there is hardly any likelihood of demonstrative steps by either side. That is enough. Meanwhile, for Americans it is a very unpleasant moment. In general, the missile defence system which they deploy involves huge expenditures. They have to prove each time that it is necessary to allocate funds from the budget. At the same time, the ground component of the ABM was tested in ideal conditions and showed a low efficiency. This fact is concealed by the Pentagon. The most modern component, the sea-based system "Aegis" also showed its shortcomings in the present case.
The system with which the Russian Su-24 shocked the American destroyer "Donald Cook" has the code name "Khibiny". This is the name of the mountain range on the Kola Peninsula in the Arctic Circle. "Khibiny" is the newest complex for radioelectronic jamming of the enemy. They will be installed on all the advanced Russian planes .
Recently the complex has undergone regular testing exercises on the ground in Buryatia. Apparently, the tests which were conducted under conditions as close to real as possible, were successful.
All your signal are belong to us!
LOL! At least Ivan has a sense of humor.
From the American side:
On 12 April 2014, the USS Donald Cook was "buzzed", 12 times by a Russian Su-24 bomber jet. According to U.S. military officials the crew aboard the Donald Cook made several attempts to radio the Russian warplane asking the pilot what his intentions were and sending warnings to remain at a safe distance, but the Russian pilot did not respond.
According to U.S. sources it appears the plane was not armed.
While American military officials consider the incident provocative they say the encounter ended without incident.
Hardly sounds like they jammed it or anything like that, just a "buzz".
“After the incident, the foreign media reported that “Donald Cook” was rushed into a port in Romania. There all the 27 members of the crew filed a letter of resignation.”
I doubt this very much.
I’d take any Kremlin reports with several pounds of salt right now. (As I would take any White Hut “#” reports.) Popcorn time.
Thank you. I only read the first two paragraphs before I responded. On second read, I picked that up. As with our own media, one is left having to determine which, if any, elements of truth are in the report...
As Spock (the alien, not the lousy author of stupid how-raise-your-kids books) said, “Military secrets are the most fleeting.”
If this is true, and I doubt we’d announce that it was, then the trip there was worth it. Depending for your very survival on something that has already been countered is a need-to-know intel tidbit.
Probably because it's fantasy.
One would hope that the U.S. does have countermeasures and is only letting the Russians think they were effective via this press release, but with MomJeans destroying our military, the probability is that we are sitting ducks.
After the incident, the foreign media reported that “Donald Cook” was rushed into a port in Romania. There all the 27 members of the crew filed a letter of resignation. It seems that all 27 people have written that they are not going to risk their lives. This is indirectly confirmed by the Pentagon statement according to which the action demoralized the crew of the American ship.
I don’t buy this for a second. A crew of 27 on an Aegis destroyer? And they ‘resigned’? C’mon. I understand that this is the millenial Navy but I ain’t buying this.
Anyways, I think the real story is the Fencer flew towards the DDG, was obviously not armed, and like several times in the past was allowed to do its maneuvers. There was no jamming of the AN-SPY1, no plasma stealth or other make-believe technologies, and it was another silly game.
“There all the 27 members of the crew filed a letter of resignation.
Well, since there are 281 crewmembers, I think we can bin this account right now.
Baghdad Bob has finally obviously come out of retirement to personally take charge of Russia’s Ministry of Communications and Mass Media.
Why do the Russians do this?
They exaggerate their capabilities, which in turn results in the U.S. bolstering its actual military development to counter something that was grossly over rated in the first place, thus putting the Russians even further behind.
Of course with this administration, things are very different!
If this is true, it’s not surprising. Aegis is 80s technology and our government in it’s belief that no one is going to develop anything to defeat it has done nothing to replace it. As far as the Montreaux Convention, war ships are required to file a declaration with Turkey 21 days in advance and normally can stay in the Black Sea for 21 days. Turkey can waive this 21 day limit for a longer stay if they like since they are in control of the strait. The Cook has been there 17 days. Mass resignations is not unheard of. My daughter knows of a recent incident where that happened.
Looks like Soviet Pravda and Izvestia are back in business.
Aegis is obsolescent, but the Soviets are doing us a favor if they show us their countermeasures prior to combat. The Navy does have a high priority program to develop a more modern radar system, if Obama doesn’t scuttle it.
The is pure propaganda BS. Classic Soviet era BS.
I agree. It would be stupid to show you cards like this. Sounds like propaganda.
Must be a Russian version of the Onion.
One SU-24 with an EW pod did not shut down Aegis. Ridiculous.
The Su-24 would have to be more EW hardened than the ship (or the avionics might not function). Is that possible?
The only serious point, which isn’t even made here, is that the US Navy would have a very hard time conducting war time operations in the Black Sea.
The USN is centered on carrier strike groups and they aren’t going in there. US DDGs are not battle cruisers and they would be very exposed to massed missile attacks, without a long enough reach to do anything but play defense.
How about “the Russians have now admitted to committing an act of war against the US” ?
Plus enlisted members of the crew can not resign. Junior officers (less then 6 years of service) can not resign either.
The Cold War ENDED almost 25 years ago and WE WON!!!
No need for further military R&D. Now let’s move on and show that we can bomb Botswana into submission.
Just a dumb old grunt here, but I call BS on this article.
And how in hell can a military person RESIGN from active duty? Hey Top, I resign. Yeah. Sure. LMAO
True. Use of EW measures preemptively against a US warship could certainly be considered a hostile act.
In the past Pravda and Izvestia were models of leftist propaganda and disinformation. Now, they take lessons from the New York Times! /S
The truth can be verified by the DOD and told to the public.
However, since the election of the “Communist in Chief”, NOTHING CAN BE BELIEVED from the government...PERIOD!
Now we find ourselves in a real fix since all statements from the government (on all levels from local to national) are first, assumed to be a lie unless proven otherwise.
This is just how far down the sh.t hole we have come.
Part is not boolshiite which is that any USN units operating in Black Sea are toasted blini in the event of hostility. Don't call it "BLACK SEA," Call it "Lake Russki."
SU-24? Is Russki A-10 equivalent, only faster. In fact, look like the losing Lockheed entry in the A-10 competition of yesteryear.
It looks like a classic EMP attack.
The su24 is more like the F111. i think you are confusing with SU25
Why do I think this is BS?
You really need to study what EMP is and not listen to the press hype.
Obviously this is a typo and they meant to say
287, also that the crew asked to join the Russian
navy for protection...
I am so embarrassed that I am resigning from the crew of the "Donald Cook!" If we have a destroyer named "Donald Duck," I will immediately re-enlist and volunteer for Black Sea duty.
Renfield, internalize what LaV said.
True. Use of EW measures preemptively against a US warship is an act of war. There, fixed it.
Hard to believe........but would not be surprised by our diminishing sea power under our current commie/socialist administration. They’ve cut the military, brought in women and homosexuals to help run fighting ships.....we’re in deep do do.
Considering that Russia a few months ago trumpeted that the Ukrainian Navy’s flagship had defected while it was returning from exercises with NATO, tells you something. The ship docked at Odessa rather than sailing to Sevastopol and surrendering.
The Russian flight was a PR gimmick. The news and story line plays well in Moscow and it’s music to the ears of pro Russkis everywhere.
I call bullshit.
I’m quite sure a lot military software is garbage.
>>2) The U.S. has revealed that the Russians were effective.
Where and how?
While this article is likely BS, we know the Russians, and the Chinese, have been working on countermeasures for US tech for years now.
GPS spoofers we already know about. Sat attack systems and Drone communications scramblers have been publicly talked about, while EMP bursters have been rumored for over a decade now.
Who knows what else is in the pipeline, especially with Chinese cooperation.
We can’t expect our opponents are going to sit idly by while we go stagnant.