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Cliven Bundy Delenda Est [must be destroyed]
The American Thinker ^ | April 26, 2014 | Clarice Feldman

Posted on 04/27/2014 6:19:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

During the Punic Wars Cato and other notable Romans argued that Carthago Delenda Est, that is, Carthage must be destroyed. Substitute sympathetic ordinary Americans, like Cliven Bundy, Joe the Plumber, and the superbly talented Sarah Palin for Carthage, and you have the rallying cry of the Democrats and their media enablers who will use any pretext to demonize those who dare to challenge their power..........

........... This week’s victim was a nice rancher, Cliven Bundy, who got the sort of isolate and target Alinsky-style treatment we’ve seen others get. His opponents hurl a false charge against him, rely on doctored quotes from an unsophisticated speaker and people who should know better run away from the forum for fear their sparkling white togas might get spattered with mud. They still don’t get it. Wait to see what the person actually said, instead of taking the word of Media Matters or the New York Times. Think about why the person is being attacked and by whom before you hoof it away.........

He is no more a racist than is E.W. Jackson, Thomas Sowell, or honest observers like the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan. Government welfare programs have destroyed the black family with horrible consequences. And the blacks who support Bundy and protect him have defended him against these spurious charges of racism.

But Bundy must be tarred because this latest government action against him exposes the corruption of Majority Senate Leader Reid, brings into question the continued control of such vast stretches of the West by the federal government and shows horrified Americans the brutal tactics, lies, and objectives of the Bureau of Land Management. It’s race used as a “look, squirrel” distraction from the obvious. Don’t be like the white toga ninnies. Do not flee from the forum.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: alinsky; blm; bundy; bundyranch; claricefeldman; clivenbundy; corruptreid; harryreid; nevada; racism; randpaul; randpaullist
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Great piece. Deserves FULL read.
1 posted on 04/27/2014 6:19:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

But, but... The super patriot said that if I stand with Bundy I am supporting evil, and that my duty as a creature of God is to stand with LOVE against the forces of darkness... or something.


2 posted on 04/27/2014 6:28:01 AM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Delenda Est

what is that supposed to mean. What language is it in. Talking bout Nevada It might be Spanish. It could be Chinese also since Harry Ried is over his head in Chinese monies. Is it latin or Italian?

3 posted on 04/27/2014 6:29:12 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

“Delenda Est” is a short story written by Poul Anderson, part of his Time Patrol (1960) series. The title alludes to the Latin phrase Carthago delenda est (”Carthage must be destroyed”) from the Third Punic War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delenda_Est


4 posted on 04/27/2014 6:31:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mountainlion

Latin.


5 posted on 04/27/2014 6:36:06 AM PDT by Ray76
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I have two College degrees and probably have not run across this phrase. The “low information” persons would really be at a loss. I traced my ancestry back to Troy so I suppose I should study the place. I have read Josephus and the Iliad and the Odyssey.
6 posted on 04/27/2014 6:38:32 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Ah Yesiree bob

Delenda Est...makes a great cracker....

Michelle like them with peanut butter





seriously though...some things never change

Thank you.
7 posted on 04/27/2014 6:38:55 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How soon before the “zampolit” arrives?
I have seen him in some key threads recently.

Just a heads up about a recent “political officer” that will infest a thread, dominate it, debase free thinkers and castigate those that question him.

Such as in the recent MH370 threads.


8 posted on 04/27/2014 6:39:48 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: Ray76

I took Latin in 1963, ouch.


9 posted on 04/27/2014 6:40:38 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks...marked for later FULL read.


10 posted on 04/27/2014 6:44:54 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the TRUTH; speak without fear." (Glenn Beck))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

All of it true, 100%

But the damage is done.

Even if the NYT and Media Matters were to publish retractions, few will hear of it.

Because the MSM, Academia, Entertainment, and the DemonRAT party are one and the same, they own the public perspective.

We are just discontented rabble to them, and they are even working now to shut us completely out of the public square. We are as a mouse to a lion: safely ignored regardless of our quixotic attempts to take it down.

Soon, their worldview will not just dominate, but prevail.

The only hope we have is to infiltrate their institutions with right-thinking people, to work from the inside out. This is what the demonic Left has been doing for over 100 years! It is quixotic at best to think we can take that down in any less time with any less effort.

Problem is, unlike the demonic Left, we love our families and our work. Most, if not all, of us work. I heard a stat on Howie Carr the other night that 40% of DemonRAT voters work, 77% of independents work, and 90% of Republican voters work.

Most of us are really to busy to really DO anything about this, except vent off in forums like this one.

It will take millions of people who are willing to sacrifice their jobs, their homes, even their families to overcome what the Left has done to this country.

And I don’t mean armed insurrection.

I mean infiltration into Academia, Entertainment, MSM, and even the DemonRAT party itself.


11 posted on 04/27/2014 6:45:13 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is a kickassed thread worthwhile for everyone here to read.


12 posted on 04/27/2014 6:45:32 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I remember.

Almost as far back as the Punic Wars there was this.

Nelson Rockefeller's public relations head, Stuart Spencer, "We had to destroy Barry Goldwater as a member of the human race."

13 posted on 04/27/2014 6:46:10 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

QuoteJames_Otis_Jr • 7 hours ago

Naturally, the progressive establishment found their prey and devoured it before anyone could even figure out that Bundy’s statements were doctored.

Not that we should be surprised one single bit.

But it is ironic that Bundy is forever tainted as a racist by the low information crowd for pointing out the obvious and tragic circumstance of the plight of blacks in the United States, a circumstance that was created with the full approval and thunderous applause of the very people that are lynching Bundy right now.

It will be a great day indeed when the New York Times finally goes bankrupt and ceases publication. A more traitorous rag could hardly be found
of the Day!

What shall we call Hannity, Beck etc that now have turned on Bundy? This wasn’t about the rancher, it was about the excessive use of force by the BLM.


14 posted on 04/27/2014 6:48:12 AM PDT by griswold3
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Much of what I’ve been saying here. Thanks for posting this.


15 posted on 04/27/2014 6:48:56 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: mountainlion

I believe Clarice Feldman is targeting her excellent piece at the shameful “toga elites” who shamelessly and blindly threw Rancher Bundy under the wheels of their fleeing chariots. Rather clever of her.


16 posted on 04/27/2014 6:49:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Money Quote: "people who should know better run away from the forum for fear their sparkling white togas might get spattered with mud." Me thinks she is speaking of Senator and Presidential aspirant Rand Paul. Along with the entire Fox News lineup.
17 posted on 04/27/2014 6:52:06 AM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: mountainlion

Idiot


18 posted on 04/27/2014 6:53:23 AM PDT by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: Westbrook
...But the damage is done.

It is not done. This "damage" needs to be highlighted for the lies it represents. Letting it go reinforces all the hateful characterizations the Left has hung on conservatives. Bundy's lynching presents us with a place to stand and fight -- not retreat. It needs to be highlighted and ridiculed, NOT dismissed by turning tail and running.

19 posted on 04/27/2014 6:53:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Westbrook

Be very careful of whom you hate because you soon become just like them.
Like my Mom says, ‘When you dance with the devil, the devil doesn’t change. The devil changes you.’


20 posted on 04/27/2014 6:54:57 AM PDT by griswold3
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To: griswold3

“This wasn’t about the rancher, it was about the excessive use of force by the BLM.”

Exactly so. Which is why I stand with Mr. Bundy regarding the above issue, and detest the excessive abuse of governmental power that put the life and liberty of he, his family, and many supporters at risk.

But, while Mr. Bundy is an individual citizen like any of us, and has the Constitutional right to say whatever he wishes about other topics, there are times when it’s better not to.


21 posted on 04/27/2014 6:58:02 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: griswold3

He works for Beck.


22 posted on 04/27/2014 7:00:49 AM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“...But the damage is done.
It is not done. This “damage” needs to be highlighted for the lies it represents. Letting it go reinforces all the hateful characterizations the Left has hung on conservatives.”..

I think we can anticipate more of the media whores vial to fall upon Mr. Bundy for anything that he says. Indeed, the media twisted his point and used it against him, a common tactic of those who are desperate. This practice will continue and WHAT OTHER media, short of FOX, would actually speak the truth? It’s time to declare WAR on the media itself. They are NOT journalists, they are indeed WHORES to odumbo and his ilk.


23 posted on 04/27/2014 7:02:51 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Harry Reid will teach him to exercise his First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights!


24 posted on 04/27/2014 7:03:50 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: griswold3

We are going to end up dancing with the devil in the moonlight before this is all over.


25 posted on 04/27/2014 7:04:38 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bundy was saved — by Donald Stirling


26 posted on 04/27/2014 7:05:45 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: griswold3

In the pale moonlight.


27 posted on 04/27/2014 7:07:04 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, he spoke truth to power.

... and then what happens ~


28 posted on 04/27/2014 7:07:39 AM PDT by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Agree, great summary and insight.


29 posted on 04/27/2014 7:08:16 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: HMS Surprise

Yep! I heard Beck’s rant against the man.


30 posted on 04/27/2014 7:09:30 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

My troops used to drive me nuts 40-odd years ago with a very dismissive ‘It don’t mean nuttin, LT’

Increasingly, whatever the left throws at us don’t mean nuttin.

‘There’s somethin happenin here. What it is ain’t ezactly clear.’


31 posted on 04/27/2014 7:17:09 AM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: BenLurkin
In the pale moonlight.

One of the best "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" episodes ever, by the way.

32 posted on 04/27/2014 7:23:17 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: PraiseTheLord

Idiot

Your screen name and remarks seem to be in conflict.


33 posted on 04/27/2014 7:25:13 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: PraiseTheLord

Yep.


34 posted on 04/27/2014 7:30:05 AM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Many FReepers were shouting this very same thing the moment this “news” hit the street...

Unfortunately, we were having to tell fellow FReepers, many of whom remain convinced that Mr. Bundy Delenda Est because “he just shouldn’t have the nerve to talk like that.” “Who does he think he is? Some private citizen to whom the 1st Amendment still applies?”


35 posted on 04/27/2014 7:35:30 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: mountainlion

No conflict. Truth is truth. Idiot


36 posted on 04/27/2014 7:36:03 AM PDT by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

OK, I have had some coffee and things are making more sense. I misread “Majority Senate Leader Reid” and saw “Majority Senate Lucifer Reid” though. Another cup and I will try the whole article.


37 posted on 04/27/2014 7:38:14 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The militias protecting him should have sent some PR operatives as well. Our entertainment media complex, which is the high-ground controlled by the enemy, is where battles are now fought.


38 posted on 04/27/2014 7:38:33 AM PDT by PGR88
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No conflict. Truth is truth. Idiot

I will admit to brain damage form high explosives in Viet Nam and a decade of alcohol abuse and even some comprehension problems. I guess I don't know what an idiot is.

39 posted on 04/27/2014 7:52:09 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: griswold3
What shall we call Hannity, Beck etc that now have turned on Bundy?

Lets add Megan and the big O and then I call all four fools that are not really reporting nothing more than the NYT. I dropped them from my TV since I have not heard a complete apology from three and a sad half hearted excuse for his stupidity from Hannity. Americans, the four are now trash and no excuse except maybe they should take a clue from Judge Jeanine.

40 posted on 04/27/2014 8:01:06 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Westbrook

I tried running for the local school board to do just that, infiltrate. The people elected the local union leader who was also janitor for the district. I only lost by 50 votes.


41 posted on 04/27/2014 8:03:06 AM PDT by thirst4truth (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’ve said for years that until Conservatives start really fighting the left, we will never win.

Destroy marriages, ruin homes, obliterate life savings, make people unemployable, make children cry, etc.

As long as our side keeps looking for ‘another way,’ we’ll always be on the defensive, and lose more times than not.


42 posted on 04/27/2014 8:08:24 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

“...or honest observers like the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan.”

Cough...

[queue creepy background music]

Clarice...I ate his liver with some Fava beans and a nice Chianti...

;-)

I do agree with her analysis that too many people who should have been side by side with these citizens out in Nevada were noticeably absent from the front line...

But, you get a bunch of Veterans who only want to visit their memorials in D.C. (right in their backyard, which were shut down by you know who) and you can’t keep them away from the cameras then...Much less be silent about that kind of outrage...

I would surmise my opinion that these temporary occupants of those offices have clearly defined their opportunistic courage, and defined their subtle cowardice at the same time...

I was criticized for not being right there with Cliven Bundy getting a photo op with me shaking his hand for daring to criticize the timely aghast commentary (after the dust had relatively settled in Nevada) of Rand Paul...

I should know better than criticize such a stalwart libertarian, masquerading as a conservative...

But see...When the problem is nationwide, why does anyone really have to go on those kinds of distant road trips when you have your own similar problems brewing right here in your own neighborhood???

Just remember, people like us do not go out looking for trouble anymore...It comes and finds you...Better to fight (resist) in your own hood, where you know it and the people better than the opposition, than the alternative...

I believe we have enough beans and bullets to handle most contingencies out there...

Just my opinion...

And yes, I did read the full text at the link...;-) thanks CW...


43 posted on 04/27/2014 8:22:04 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: griswold3

> Be very careful of whom you hate

Uh, where did I say I hate anybody?

All I said, IIRC, is that we need to have a long term strategy to overcome them, but that, unlike the indolent Left, most of us are too busy to be able to do that.


44 posted on 04/27/2014 9:34:04 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: thirst4truth

> I tried running for the local school board to do just that,
> infiltrate. The people elected the local union leader who
> was also janitor for the district. I only lost by 50 votes.

Good for you! Keep the pressure up, if you can, and run again.

But you probably don’t have as much time on your hands as the union janitor.


45 posted on 04/27/2014 9:35:31 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: PGR88
The news this weekend is filled with the story about L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling instructing his girlfriend not to bring black people to his games - a man who seems to possess many "uncomfortable" character flaws and holds obvious prejudices but because of his money and his access to power and fame, the L.A. Chapter of the NAACP was scheduled to give Sterling a lifetime achievement award. And this is NOT the 1st time that he's received a lifetime achievement award from the L.A. Chapter of the NAACP (amid controversy)- 2009:

Clippers owner Donald Sterling, accused of racism and embracing a “vision of a Southern plantation-type structure” in a lawsuit filed in February by Elgin Baylor, will be given a lifetime achievement award next week by the NAACP. . . .

Leon Jenkins, president of the Los Angeles branch of the civil rights organization, says of the much-maligned Sterling, “He has a unique history of giving to the children of L.A.,” revealing that the owner donates anywhere from 2,000 to 3,000 tickets a game to youth groups for nearly every Clippers home game.

Noting that the NAACP had made plans to honor Sterling before Baylor filed suit, Jenkins says, “We can’t speak to the allegations, but what we do know is that for the most part [Sterling] has been very, very kind to the minority youth community.” NAACP explains why it is honoring Clippers owner Donald Sterling (May 2009)

And NO ONE knew he was a racist? Really? Please!

Yet Rancher Bundy is maligned by the Left and hung out to dry by the Right.

46 posted on 04/27/2014 9:37:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That Latin quote was not “must be destroyed”, but “has been destroyed” — an after-the-fact report from the forces which razed it. There was an earlier quote for the prior call to destroy Carthage: “Carthaginem esse delendam”, or “to be destroyed”, before it was attempted.


47 posted on 04/27/2014 9:43:16 AM PDT by expat2
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To: expat2

Thank you.


48 posted on 04/27/2014 9:48:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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49 posted on 04/27/2014 10:41:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: HMS Surprise

GB the new Messiah of whats happening now is a loon. Maybe he should backslide and snort a line of coke to clear his head.

I am about half convinced that Brother Beck is seriously a shill for the govt. He definitely has a hidden agenda and its not good for me and thee. I love the new stuff he’s adding to the bible. :-)


50 posted on 04/27/2014 12:34:25 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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