Skip to comments.U.S. electricity prices may be going up for good
Posted on 04/27/2014 1:50:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Experts warn of a growing fragility as coal-fired plants are shut down, nuclear power is reduced and consumers switch to renewable energy.
As temperatures plunged to 16 below zero in Chicago in early January and set record lows across the eastern U.S., electrical system managers implored the public to turn off stoves, dryers and even lights or risk blackouts.
A fifth of all power-generating capacity in a grid serving 60 million people went suddenly offline, as coal piles froze, sensitive electrical equipment went haywire and utility operators had trouble finding enough natural gas to keep power plants running. The wholesale price of electricity skyrocketed to nearly $2 per kilowatt hour, more than 40 times the normal rate. The price hikes cascaded quickly down to consumers. Robert Thompson, who lives in the suburbs of Allentown, Pa., got a $1,250 bill for January.
"I thought, how am I going to pay this?" he recalled. "This was going to put us in the poorhouse."(continued)
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Obama: My Plan Makes Electricity Rates Skyrocket (IN HIS OWN WORDS): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4
Of course, everyone knows energy prices must necessarily skyrocket. Obama told us.
Thanks, zero...you have helped us all...higher electicity, you want $10.00 per gallon gasoline.....you have done a swell job. of being the worst president in history!
Time for some change.
“How am I going to pay this [$1,250 January electric bill]?” Robert Thompson whined.
Just exactly what did you think would happen when you voted for a communist pie-in-the-sky unicorn fancier, Robert? He told us what he was going to do. (I’m just assuming he voted for the dictator because he lives in blue collar PA)
“WHERE’S MY FREE S__T?”
There is no maybe about it.
I work for an electric utility. They have shutdown perfectly good BASE LOAD coal burning power plants because the EPA has made it too expensive to run them.
Our area has been hit hard by deindustrialization so electricity demand has hit hard yet. But more shut downs of older plant (used when peak load is expected).
During Obamas war on coal 20% of our coal generation has been or will be decommissioned. In order to take these plants off the tax rolls they must be rendered unusable so they can never again be operated.
So if we should have a resurgence in the economy we must build new generation facilities. Obama would want us to build supposedly environmental friendly Renewables. Too bad that Renewables are by far the most expensive electric generation available by at least 300%.
The War on Coal is in reality the WAR ON AMERICA.
As you know, renewables aren’t dispatchable. The TRUE capital cost of a renewable plant is the generating capacity PLUS the storage capacity. Or, if you prefer, the renewable generating capacity PLUS the cost of conventional fossil capacity to take its place when the sun isn’t shining and the wind isn’t blowing.
Either way, the honest apples-to-apples, all-in systems cost of renewables is probably 4x conventional plants, roughly 2x for basic cost of the generating capacity and another 2x for having to build 100% backup which is either storage or fossil.
Some renewables are dispatchable but they are also very expense and emit Green House Gases
Waste Burners are dispatchable. Those that burn industrial waste and municipal waste could be dispatchable but are in my experience very unreliable because they are shut down for repairs more than they are operating.
The only waste burners I know of that are reliable is those that burn lumbering waste. But their generation is typically used entirely onsite.
The rest of your post is dead on.
No worries, the ‘Almighty Government’ will subsidize your higher cost.
How does someone run up a $1250.00 electric bill in a month, who isn’t already well off enough to pay for it?
Wrong comparison, since we're not building nukes. What's the equivalent in windmills or square feet of Reid property sporting solar?
We are probably the only country on the planet that has intentionally destroyed itself so utterly completely over the last decade. What a mess.
Could that coal capacity be brought online quickly once Obama is out of office?
My advice is hook a generator to your bicycle if you want to watch tv and pedal that thing all you 0 voters. You folks put yourself here, shame you took us with you.
I was in the coal business and still have kin in it and in the utility business and they were saying the same thing. Then they were told to shut up or lose their jobs.
It is true, the War on Coal is really the War on the Middle Class.
How much longer must we wait?