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Rand Paul Wins Maine straw poll
politico.com ^ | 4/27/14 | MIKE ALLEN

Posted on 04/27/2014 3:36:28 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who spoke Saturday at the Maine Republican Convention, was the big winner in the party’s straw poll. Paul took 26 percent of the vote, to 14 percent for the second-place finisher, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas).

With 690 ballots cast at the convention in Bangor, the order of finish was:

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.): 176

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): 98

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker: 70

Dr. Ben Carson: 62

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie: 60

Jeb Bush: 57

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.): 37

Mike Huckabee: 28

Condoleezza Rice: 26

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arkansas; US: Florida; US: Kentucky; US: Maine; US: New Jersey; US: Texas; US: Wisconsin
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He also endorsed Collins in the race against the commie democrat Shenna Bellows.

Harry Reid has to go.

1 posted on 04/27/2014 3:36:28 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Pauls are very good at winning straw polls.


2 posted on 04/27/2014 3:38:21 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: onyx; Jim Robinson; laplata; Morgana; SoConPubbie

Go Ted Cruz!


3 posted on 04/27/2014 3:38:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Don’t the Pauls always win the straw polls? The Paulistas are good at rigging the vote for their guy but have a harder time in the actual election.


4 posted on 04/27/2014 3:38:40 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"
I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.
[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]

5 posted on 04/27/2014 3:38:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]

6 posted on 04/27/2014 3:39:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'
Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists. [by "anti-government activists" is meant church-burning Christian-murdering jihadists]
[Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]

7 posted on 04/27/2014 3:39:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Rand Paul's immigration speech
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...
[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]

8 posted on 04/27/2014 3:39:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Well, he’s winning straw polls and scientific polls as well. Straw polls are not scientific but winning is better than losing.


9 posted on 04/27/2014 3:40:20 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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10 posted on 04/27/2014 3:41:33 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Wow, Pauls and polls, and Rand Paul is campaigning for Susan Collins.

What a floundering rino he has become.


11 posted on 04/27/2014 3:45:38 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

I think Paul is intentionally running in the middle as a tactic to get elected.


12 posted on 04/27/2014 3:47:47 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
All I care about it cutting the poverty-creating, slavish $4 trillion government by at least 80% (=$800 billion - still to big, but it's a start) and replacing it with the CLEAR ALTERNATIVE: THE WEALTH-CREATING VOLUNTARY FREE MARKET ECONOMY. This is BY FAR the #1 POLITICAL ISSUE.

So far to me, Rand has best articulated the focus on doing this.

13 posted on 04/27/2014 3:49:17 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: BarnacleCenturion; Greetings_Puny_Humans

Are you referencing those “happy smoke” polls in Colorado, again?


14 posted on 04/27/2014 3:51:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Zeneta

The middle of what?

Since when is coming out as he has moving left on abortion, gay marriage, and the party platform on social issues, being soft on national defense, and sounding so racial as he has recently, “the middle”?


15 posted on 04/27/2014 3:52:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

It’s not hard to bus in a few hundred people to vote for you in the straw poll. Ron Paul did it all the time, and used to win the CPAC straw poll every year.

Typically, Ron Paul would get something like 70% in a straw poll, and then in a real election would get about 2 or 3%.

It looks like Rand Paul learned from his daddy.


16 posted on 04/27/2014 4:00:43 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Maine.....home of those wonderful conservatives Susan Collins and Angus King.....not.


17 posted on 04/27/2014 4:06:39 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Cicero

Okay I’m supporting Cruz all the way, and I’m disappointed by the recent antics of Paul.
That said, I will take him any day over Jeb or Crispy Creme any day of the week.
I’m glad to see all the RINOS in the field.
That gives us a chance to get a conservative nominee for the first time in almost 30 years.


18 posted on 04/27/2014 4:07:03 PM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am hoping that conservatives can come together behind Ted EARLY so that we don’t have the endless sniping and “I won’t ever vote for that candidate” that doomed us last time around.

Paul is a libertarian and has his dad’s ground crew going for him. I prefer a man like Ted who is a true conservative and a man of principle


19 posted on 04/27/2014 4:08:53 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

See my tagline.


20 posted on 04/27/2014 4:11:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: wideawake

Like Father Like son


21 posted on 04/27/2014 4:13:35 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: wideawake
Pauls are very good at winning straw polls.

Do they bus in college kids for these things?

22 posted on 04/27/2014 4:19:59 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: wideawake

Ru Paul’s expiration date has passed. He might get more votes in the DNC primary against Shillary.


23 posted on 04/27/2014 4:21:53 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know if I can match your $$$ but my time and enthusiasm are definitely there. Am going to do all I can


24 posted on 04/27/2014 4:24:42 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: ansel12
what a floundering rino he (Rand) has become

Gosh, I don't know. Someone described him as the Howard Dean of the Republican Party. He's all over the place, not always rational in his choices, but sure does shake things up.

It just might be that people across the political spectrum are totally fed up and don't want to be told who they're supposed to vote for.

Cruz beat Christie, Jeb, and Ryan. That's good. I doubt the Rand Paul votes would have one of those three as their second choice. So in a way this is real good news.

25 posted on 04/27/2014 4:28:59 PM PDT by grania
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Happy smoke polls? What’s that? Did the Paulistas pipe in marijuana smoke at a polling place or something?


26 posted on 04/27/2014 4:39:15 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Not surprising. I have always thought it a little strange that “libertarians” are at heart big-government people; they just want the government to approve of whatever it is they want to do, which is usually something involving drugs. They want no moral restrictions on anything. Paul has already said that the GOP has got to abandon the “social issues,” by which I assume he means opposition to abortion and opposition to the destruction of marriage, so of course he’s going to be popular in Maine and popular with liberals.


27 posted on 04/27/2014 4:42:04 PM PDT by livius
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To: grania

What’s he shaking up?

He campaigns for Romney, McConnell, Susan Collins, moves left on abortion and gay marriage, and social issues, the border, he seems fairly typical for a weak and floundering republican.


28 posted on 04/27/2014 4:43:18 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

I think Rand Paul is establishing a position for pure political reasons regarding his electability.

He is using the rhetoric from what has been successful among democrats over the years.

He is going after the middle.

To capture the middle, he needs to tease them with “perfectly vague” statements.

If you go back six months or a year you would not find him making these statements.

He is going to run for President and is building his “history” on inclusion.

See, we conservatives actually care about what people say.

Liberals and many in the middle don’t.

They hear what they want to hear and will vote for the guy that gives them the one thing that they care about. They will disagree with 90% of what is said, but vote for him either way.

Conservatives, on the other hand, will reject a candidate for the 10%, while agreeing with the balance.

I think what people say should be held in the highest regard. But that is me.

I hate politics and I think most Conservatives hate politics. We want the un-nuanced positions that provide a sense of certainty.

Our culture has changed.

Do you think the average college kid is going to vote for a hard core republican?

These kids are passionate in their ability to shut down the conservative opposition.

Rand Paul is not stupid.

I am confident that he knows the difference between what it takes to get elected and the statements he makes to do so.

BTW, I’d rather see Ted Cruz or Scott Walker running than Paul.

But that’s just me.

We’ve done this conservative vs. Libertarian argument before.

I still contend that the libertarian is the only possible winner in 2016.


29 posted on 04/27/2014 4:46:42 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Meaningless. Too many white voters in Maine. Paul is not impressed.


30 posted on 04/27/2014 4:48:17 PM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: Zeneta

Libertarians war against conservatism, that is Rand Paul’s war.

Romney won hugely with Independents.

Paul has made liberal statements before the last 6 months, remember that he was a big supporter of Mitt Romney and campaigned for him.


31 posted on 04/27/2014 5:00:40 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

             

32 posted on 04/27/2014 5:22:32 PM PDT by tomkat (3% +1)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Amen to that.

Rand Paul will never win anything. He has to much wackiness from his dad.

Go Ted...save this desperate country.

33 posted on 04/27/2014 5:30:37 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Zeneta

F Rand Paul. Liberaltarians make me sick.


34 posted on 04/27/2014 5:31:36 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: ansel12

Paul has made liberal statements before the last 6 months, remember that he was a big supporter of Mitt Romney and campaigned for him


Ok, I know, I know.

None of what he says matters.

He is running for President in 2016.

It’s the platitudes that get elected in our retarded culture.

So, while Rand Paul “speaks” about immigration he holds dear to “States rights”.

The middle doesn’t understand “States rights”.

What was it that Reagan said about “Abortion”, legal but rare.

Personally, I am whole hardheartedly against abortion. I am against gay marriage.

What Rand Paul is doing, what he is saying, is that whatever you believe is fine, but you need not look to the Federal Government for answers.


35 posted on 04/27/2014 5:35:02 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: ohioman

Sadly, it will be the libertarian that wins the next election.


36 posted on 04/27/2014 5:37:14 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Nifster; 2ndDivisionVet
I don’t know if I can match your $$$ but my time and enthusiasm are definitely there.

2ndDivisionVet has no money. Or if he does he's a liar.

When he was begging for help, I sent him $20.00 and he never even thanked me.

Even when I brought it up he denied it.

Not saying he's full of shite...just draw your own conclusions.

In fact, after I sent him $20 and inquired if he got it, he sent me an email asking for even more...still no note of thx.

37 posted on 04/27/2014 5:43:13 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Zeneta
What was it that Reagan said about “Abortion”, legal but rare.

What????? The strong pro-life president Reagan who is a hero to the pro-life movement and who wrote a book on abortion in 1983?

And what is this nonsense about the "federal government" Rand Paul is running to head the federal government, that means gay marriage in the military and federal employment, and immigration, and abortion in federal hospitals and on military bases.

What are you trying to sell?

38 posted on 04/27/2014 5:44:07 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Deadeye Division; BarnacleCenturion

Nothing is more pure white than libertarianism.


39 posted on 04/27/2014 5:45:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Reagan, Yes, pro life, however he was actually responsible for much of what has become of the entire abortion industry.

His greatest regret.


40 posted on 04/27/2014 5:48:20 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: RoosterRedux; Nifster

My Lord. Yes, you once sent me some money when I was down and out and you say that I never thanked you, so then I thanked you, repeatedly. I don’t recall asking you for more. How many years ago was that? Plus, I never said I’d be giving millions to Sarah Palin, I said I’d “raise” a certain amount. Again, I thank you for helping us out when we were at a low point, but when does this end? Do you want blood or something?


41 posted on 04/27/2014 5:49:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion; All
Mike Pence 2016....
42 posted on 04/27/2014 5:52:19 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: LucyT; Jim Robinson
Lucy, you once asked me who it was, in addition to MestaMachine, who took advantage of the kindness of Freepers (in asking for donations). I said "no comment" because I didn't want to be a snitch.

Well, now I do want to be a snitch...because this SOB is a liar...and he is still lying.

I am a monthly supporter of FR and sent money to MM and to 2ndDivisionVet.

Only 2ndDiv refused to thank me and even asked for more cash.

I sent 2ndDiv a $20 bill wrapped in a single piece of stationery with a note of encouragement...not a check because I didn't trust him...and apparently with good reason.

Unless he is completely senile or overcome with $20 donations...he would have notice my kindness.

But alas, he didn't.

43 posted on 04/27/2014 5:55:20 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: wideawake

Any poll (straw or otherwise) where Governor Sarah Palin isn’t among the top finishers is immediately suspect. Given that she didn’t any votes at all, this poll is utterly fraudulent.


44 posted on 04/27/2014 5:56:02 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: RoosterRedux; LucyT; Jim Robinson

A gift is a gift.

Quitchurbitchin!

If you gave it for praise, it was evil anyway.
.


45 posted on 04/27/2014 5:59:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Zeneta
Reagan, Yes, pro life, however he was actually responsible for much of what has become of the entire abortion industry. His greatest regret.

What an idiot, I thought your posts for Paul were very odd, but they kept getting odder, and now this insanity.

You also ignored the portion on Paul and gay marriage, and abortion, and the federal government, and his position against social conservatism being the pro-big government position.

46 posted on 04/27/2014 6:00:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s the way it is with Pharisees.
.


47 posted on 04/27/2014 6:03:10 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
I gave it in private. And was asked for more but never thanked.

What have you given to those Freepers in need.

I was broke (taking care of elderly parent with all I had) and had nothing, yet I still sent $20 I didn't have to a Freeper in need.

Don't you tell me what my reason for giving was.

When you are broke and you still give all you have, let me know. Until then STFU.

48 posted on 04/27/2014 6:03:14 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: editor-surveyor
BTW, how much have you sent to 2ndDivisionVet?

Just curious to see if you have matched the Pharisees?

49 posted on 04/27/2014 6:05:28 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, your a money guy ?

I possibly called you.

You are a connector ?

Does your money influence politics ?

It should.

It does.

But between all the money and back room deals what stands alone is the ability of that one person to break free from what they have been told to think.

Nobody is going to tell me “What to Think”

I reject out of hand your presumptions.


50 posted on 04/27/2014 6:07:50 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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