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Holodomor (English) The Original Holocaust *Ukraine 1932 - 1933.
YouTube ^ | Uploaded on May 14, 2011 | desip.igc.org

Posted on 04/27/2014 6:43:05 PM PDT by WhiskeyX

The Original Holocaust *Ukraine 1932 - 1933. Video.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: genocide; holomodor; russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 04/27/2014 6:43:05 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Wouldn’t the original Holocaust (industrialized murder) be the Turkish Muslim (with German technical ‘advisors’) slaughter of Armenian and other Christians?


2 posted on 04/27/2014 6:48:13 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: WhiskeyX

Thank you.


3 posted on 04/27/2014 6:49:14 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: jjotto

I’m sure the Ukrainians murdered in the millions by the Russians through deliberate starvation really could care less about which of these great genocidal holocausts was the first or the largest.


4 posted on 04/27/2014 6:51:04 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: NFHale

Ping.


5 posted on 04/27/2014 7:03:09 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: jjotto

Began almost exactly 99 years ago to the day; 24 April 1915. Don’t think for a minute that Stalin wasn’t just as aware of it as Hitler was.


6 posted on 04/27/2014 7:20:32 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: WhiskeyX

It matters because the world did nothing, so Stalin knew the world would do nothing again...


7 posted on 04/27/2014 7:21:44 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: WhiskeyX
Seven million Ukrainians were shot or starved. Several million more were sent to the gulag.

The history of all that hidden by pro communist and pro Soviet leftists.

Didn't Roosevelt refer to Stalin as "Uncle Joe"?

8 posted on 04/27/2014 7:37:51 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: WhiskeyX

Just in time for the 130th anniversary of his birth on Dec. 21, the state-run polling agency VTsIOM released a survey showing that despite the millions of Soviet citizens who fell victim to purges, starvation and summary executions under Stalin’s regime, 54% of Russians now have a high opinion of his leadership qualities. And when asked about his personal attributes, 50% of respondents said they viewed them as average or above average — up from 45% when the same survey was conducted in 2000.

This is no historical accident. The Russian government has been sending clear signals in recent years that Stalin’s achievements must be revered — despite the “mistakes,” as officials often put it, that were made during his time in power. During Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s annual call-in TV show earlier this month, which included several staged questions aimed at sending the public a message, Putin warned Russians against making any “overall judgment” against Stalin. To prove his point, he cited the forced collectivization of agriculture, a process that historians say caused millions of deaths from starvation in the 1920s and ‘30s, when Stalin was general secretary of the Communist party. “It’s true, there was no peasantry left after that,” Putin said. “Everything that happened in this sphere did not have any positive effect on the villages. But after all we did get industrialization.”

Last year, a new history textbook was adopted for schools, which makes mention of the repressions of the Stalin era, but also describes the leader as a “competent manager.” The characterization in the book — written with the help of a historian from Putin’s United Russia party — drew fierce criticism from historians in Russia and abroad. But perhaps the most blatant example of rewriting history yet came in August, when the city of Moscow unveiled an inscription to Stalin in the marble entryway of the Kurskaya Metro station. In giant letters, it reads: “Stalin raised us to be loyal to the fatherland, inspired us to labor and great works.” The praise caused an outcry from human rights groups and opposition politicians, but officials haven’t taken any actions to remove it.

What’s behind the move by the government to rehabilitate Stalin’s image in the eyes of the public? Some opposition politicians believe it’s tied to the United Russia party’s efforts to solidify its power. “The state is hinting that Stalin’s tactics are also part of its arsenal for controlling the country,” says Sergei Mitrokhin, the leader of the opposition Yabloko party. The widespread sympathy toward Stalin, he adds, is also a result of the lingering impact of Soviet propaganda, which the Russian government never tried to erase from the public consciousness after communism fell. “All countries emerging from totalitarianism and evolving into a normal form of government carried out a long and difficult program of reforms and re-education, of coming to grips with the past,” he says. “Germany is still carrying out de-Nazification, while we never even began this process.”

More:
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1949500,00.html


9 posted on 04/27/2014 7:48:02 PM PDT by No One Special
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These are the cadavers of victims of Moscow. Now Moscow wants to say that there are not many Ukrainians in the eastern Ukraine. In Kharkiv most folks speak Russian except in villages where some still speak Ukrainian. But it is the city people who are getting the publicity today. UkraineCirca1933 photo HolodomorHigher_zpsbc5286b7.jpg
10 posted on 04/27/2014 8:12:58 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: WhiskeyX

stalin was a despicable piece of garbage may he burn in Hell forever


11 posted on 04/27/2014 8:13:52 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Monterrosa-24

The video pointed out that Kharkiv was one of the hardest hit areas. There’d be many more Ukrainian speakers there if they had not been murdered.


12 posted on 04/27/2014 8:22:47 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: WhiskeyX

Later


13 posted on 04/27/2014 8:47:16 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissingerhaha)
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To: WhiskeyX

And let us not forget the Holocaust by Bullets, 1938-1941, also in the Ukraine, by Germans who went village to village with lists, set up camp, pressed local Ukrainians into service, dug a great ditch usually off in the woods somewhat, and executed the Jews with one bullet to the head, all through however many nights it took, covering the bodies loosely with dirt during the day. Some recalled: “The dirt moved!” 1.5 million murdered.


14 posted on 04/27/2014 9:07:38 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: jobim
And then the early forties brought this to Ukraine...

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15 posted on 04/27/2014 9:42:39 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: WhiskeyX

Bump


16 posted on 04/27/2014 9:44:25 PM PDT by Argus
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To: jobim

“And let us not forget the Holocaust by Bullets, 1938-1941”

Yes, and let us also note how Germany has received punishment for its war crimes, while Russia and Russians still go unpunished and are often in denial of their Holomodor and Katyn Forest crimes. In the event Polish suspicions eventually are proven to be valid, present day Russia may have renewed the Katyn Forest crimes by the downing of the Polish flight at Smolensk and then executed the survivors of the air crash on their way to commemorate the Russian war crimes in the Katyn Forest.


17 posted on 04/27/2014 9:48:19 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Ruprecht Jamieson

“Actually Germany received a slap on the wrist compared to the crimes it has committed.”

Yet Russia and China have each far outpaced the criminal losses of life and atrocities inflicted by Germany and suffered no substantial punishment or even the slap on the wrist for those crimes. So, by your own reckoning Russia and its people still have that slap on the wrist coming to them for their crimes. Many Germans have worked to atone for the German crimes, while Russia has been striving to commit more and more of those same crimes.


20 posted on 04/27/2014 11:12:06 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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