Skip to comments.Sarah Palin ‘Waterboarding is How We Baptize Terrorists’
Posted on 04/27/2014 9:25:04 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) defended the controversial enhanced interrogation technique of waterboarding this weekend, and implied that the practice would still be commonplace if I were in charge.
They obviously have information on plots to carry out Jihad, she said at the National Rifle Association (NRA) annual meeting on Saturday evening, referring to prisoners. Oh, but you cant offend them, cant make them feel uncomfortable, not even a smidgen. Well, if I were in charge, they would know that waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists.
Sarah knows exactly what to say to piss off liberals..its so humorous seeing liberals all upset about water boarding yet they have NO problem with Obama blowing terrorists asses up with drones..drones that KILL terrorists OK in the mind of a liberal, but water boarding them is a no no
Although I admire Sarah Palin, and she is an important conservative voice in the sociopolitical arena, I don’t believe that we, as a nation, should water-board anyone.
“Sarah knows exactly what to say to piss off liberals”
Don’t you know the DUmmies are going ballistic over that.
I hope PJ does a piece on them.
Gov Palin....says what is necessary to make liberals heads explode
Oh lighten up ....good lord.
WB kills no one, it just makes them talk.
Intelligence is the most important asset in any war. History has shown that the most ardent ideologues be they religious or politically motivated eventually tell what they know utilizing “relentless coercive techniques”.
Go Sarah go! I’m counting the days until she evicts the current occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Liberals are really inconsistent, they hate water boarding but don’t mind drones being dropped on terrorists without trials..so water boarding not OK but killing them with drones is all good
We waterboard our own troops. It's part of the training for Special Forces.
You would cease this practice?
One thing is certain; Sarah Palin is the voice of Conservative America like no other. She is responsible-in part-for inspiring and motivating a lot of Americans to think boldly and to engage in public discourse and to take action.
Okay. I love it. I hope it’s true and not one of those parody posts.
I was water boarded during military survival training. It is unpleasant as hell, but not torture.
I’m not sure. Training is not to be compared with actual torture.
I’ll have to consult my sibling, who’s a retired soldier.
I just posted this response to another post:
“Im not sure. Training is not to be compared with actual torture.
Ill have to consult my sibling, whos a retired soldier.”
Thank you for serving our country, roughman.
There is no physical pain involved. It causes panic and temporary mental confusion. No lasting effects. Not even close to torture.
So was I.
Didn't leave a mark.
Does the exercise take place over a period of time, or just in a day as you would with gas chamber training? Or has that training changed as well?
Thanks for saying aloud what I was afraid to. You shall not roast alone. ;)
My daughter got waterboarded in the AF. If a girl can handle it, our own AMERICAN girl, then the poor put upon human garbage that tries Killing her and us all can suck it up.
“You shall not roast alone. ;)”
I’ll bring the Smores. I’ll go first. :^)
I must admit....when I first read you comment my first thought was, “At a girl!”. Our American women are tough.
As one soldier stated previously, it’s training. Not the same as torture.
Nacho Libre baptism scene,,
As you can see, you’re not alone. I’ve known for quite some time that there are a lot of Americans who believe that water-boarding is a necessary form of “relentless coercive techniques.”
I do not agree.
Personally I would prefer they just put the terrorist in a room with a soldier and a bacon wrapped baseball bat. And leave him there until compliance was gained. Preferably, if they want martyrdom, give it to them after they talk. It’s their choice after all.
If they want to be treated better, they should not be terrorists to begin with.
From a WWII vets view I can think of many instances where waterboarding could have/might have saved some USA service men lives. The Germans were at times gruesome as to treatment of captives after they, the Germans, were sure no useful info was needed. The Japs were also very favorable to any means to extract battle info and I know that US GIs at times were to engrossed in battle to worry about the lives of the enemy. War is hell and I think people in struggle for their lives or beliefs of survival will look at torture in their own personal perspective.
Nobody in the history of the world ever volunteered to have something like thumb screws or the iron boot applied to them. People volunteer for waterboarding and sleep deprivation. On the other hand I imagine having full knowledge and the choice to do it makes a big difference.
I can sympathize with those that are leery of it, if some official of a state ever ordered it done to me, I would probably considered myself tortured. But if you had knowledge of a bomb or something I might want that guy water boarded. Trusting the state to determine when to have this power is iffy though, and getting more iffy daily. The patriot act is only going to be used for domestic terrorism and all that.
LOL The Governor has put a unique perspective on dealing with Islamists...
My father and sibling served. The only reason I was denied (despite my efforts) enlistment was due to a preexisting medical condition.
We were raised on war stories as well as marathon war documentaries and films. Although I have not witnessed first hand the horrors of war, I have seen it through the eyes of my father, sibling, uncles, friends, as well as those accounts captured on film.
I don’t believe this issue is an easy one to tackle.
BTW, thank you for serving our country.
I understand the potential it will be used against us. I also understand it can ALL be used against us.
I get what you are saying. I understand completely. But to be honest, I just do not care one iota about the life of people that want me dead. they made the choice to do what they do. I do not feel obligated to be remotely nice in return.
the scenario you pose is just another example why it is so crucially important that we elect people of principle instead of going for the almighty win with moral deficient idiots. We need people that are most likely to never turn that against us.
I do not for a second think the crew we have now in either party with about 5 exceptions would bat an eye about torturing us if it got them what they want. Because they are moral deficient idiots. They kill overseas with no legal backing. they will eventually do it here.
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I'm sure under certain circumstances, you would be all for it.
I thought she was Christian? She is now spouting sacrilegious, anti-Christian nonsense? Did she convert to Islam? This is a shame.
And they’ll block the Gosnell movie to mafia tactics standards.
Do you believe that we, as a nation, should survive as a nation? To what degree and at what cost are you willing to abide by and accept in our fight against the clandestine Islamic Jihad?
It has similar results.Panic, feelings of suffocation ,confusion etc. Gas chamber is painful though, burning eyes,skin, mucous membranes. Waterboarding is not painful like the gas chamber. It gives the sensation of suffocating, it is a psychological modality used when urgent and /or lifesaving intel is necessary.Other modalities such as sleep deprivation, isolation and being kept wet, (hosed down periodically) takes time to develop therefore not useful when time is of the essence.
I understand your aversion to waterboarding, much of it is due to mis-information stemming from media bias.
Ask yourself this question: If one of your loved ones was being held by some psychopath, who threatened rape, torture or murder and police had one of his/her accomplices. Time is running out to save your loved one a gruesome death. To what level would you authorize the police to extract information from the accomplice that might save your loved one?
There is a false assumption in your questions. It’s an Either/Or fallacy to think that water-boarding is the only option. I do not believe this form of interrogation is the only option.
I’m not willing to resort to such tactics in order to gather information because I believe there are other ways of gathering intelligence.
I plan to engage in a lengthy discussion with my sibling, a retired soldier who enjoyed a long and distinguished career in the corp, concerning this topic.
“Ask yourself this question: If one of your loved ones was being held by some psychopath, who threatened rape, torture or murder and police had one of his/her accomplices. Time is running out to save your loved one a gruesome death. To what level would you authorize the police to extract information from the accomplice that might save your loved one?”
Excellent hypothetical. Frankly, I don’t know the answer to that. My first reaction would be to use whatever method’s necessary in order to extract information.
It’s seems rather cut-and-dry, but I don’t know if it’s that simple. What if the authorities have the wrong person, and this individual doesn’t know anything? The possibility’s disturbing.
Mongrel dogs that believe murder and genocide must be utilized to advance their faux-religion, do not warrant any consideration or concern from me.
you aren't because you are a weak. Real mean do what is necessary to defend people like you.
A Quote from Orwell fits you.
it was "grossly obvious" that "Those who 'abjure' violence can do so only because others are committing violence on their behalf.
Please stop your sanctimonious blathering. You sound like leftist snob.
I digress, your logic far exceeds my professional experience.
You’re right. My link is screwed up.
I don’t care.
Well, I was going to thank you for a civil dialog involving a controversial topic. You were accommodating, and I do thank you for reserving any ad hominems until that last post. Your comments/questions were informative and I appreciate it.
I entered the discussion knowing that I’d be criticized and slandered for my opinions.
As I stated earlier, I don’t believe this issue is an easy one to tackle. Although, I will say this. There are some on this thread who have made the mistake of assuming that I would somehow resort to interrogating a suspect using a wet noodle or something. That would be an inaccurate assumption.
Man she hit the nail on the head!!! I lika that!
I was civil to you. Just stating the obvious. You have a distorted perception of waterboarding , and to most, perception is reality.
You will not accept any contrary argument, even from people experienced in it.
In response to my hypothetical scenario, you stated what if the accomplice was the wrong person, it frightens me. Yet I explained what waterboarding was, and its temporary effects. Residual effects of waterboarding are benign, yet your reasoning is skewed by your misperception.
At worst the “wrong person” would be pissed off,with no injuries or lingering psychological issues. How then could you justify not using the method if a loved ones life is on the line?
You know what real torture is? Being forced to listen to the song “muscrat love” over and over again while locked in your cell.