Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The weapons man: ‘I gave the IRA powerful anti-tank shells the US Army used in Iraq war’
Belfast Telegraph ^ | 28 April 2014 | Suzanne Breen

Posted on 04/27/2014 11:30:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The IRA has a secret arsenal of deadly munitions capable of bringing down military helicopters and penetrating PSNI Land Rovers, killing all personnel traveling inside.

Millionaire Florida stockbroker turned IRA gunrunner, Mike Logan, says he sent the powerful incendiary shells to the Provisionals who tested them and were “delighted with the results”. […]

As well as arming the Provisionals with hundreds of handguns as previously reported, he has now disclosed that he also sent munitions as powerful as those the US Army deployed against Saddam Hussein in the Iraq war.

He claims that years after the IRA ceasefire, the Provos were still keen to buy heavy weapons capable of killing dozens of police officers and British soldiers. …

(Excerpt) Read more at belfasttelegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antitank; gunrunner; ira; mikelogan; northernireland; thetroubles; weaponssmuggler

1 posted on 04/27/2014 11:30:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

Comment #2 Removed by Moderator

To: Olog-hai
"Powerful incindiary shells"...?

I don't know what they're refering to and I'm real sure they don't know either.

3 posted on 04/28/2014 12:34:23 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: F15Eagle

If I am reading article correctly- this all took place at least 10 yrs ago.
Why the sudden interest, am I missing something?


4 posted on 04/28/2014 12:37:32 AM PDT by Nailbiter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai
Much ado about nothing. From the article:

“I sent them .50 calibre shells called Raufoss rounds,” Logan says.

“The Americans used them to annihilate miles of Saddam Hussein's tanks in Iraq. I can't stress how powerful they are.

“These shells are armour piercing. They penetrate the vehicle they're fired at, then explode and ignite. They can incinerate everything and everybody inside.

“I bought 20 of them for just $10 a piece at a gun show. I sent them to Spike. On my next visit to Ireland, he said he was delighted with them. The look on his face was priceless.

“He told me he'd personally tested one of them on a scrap car down South. He said, ‘Wow, they're good. They really do the business.' There are still 19 of these rounds out there. Somebody somewhere in Ireland has them.”


5 posted on 04/28/2014 1:01:06 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #6 Removed by Moderator

To: Yo-Yo

Nothing unless terrorists use them?


7 posted on 04/28/2014 1:22:15 AM PDT by Olog-hai
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: elhombrelibre

The IRA has been at this for close to a century now; these are the long-time buddies of the PLO and other Islamic terrorists, don’t forget. They have no doubt that they know what they have, even if some press drones do not.


8 posted on 04/28/2014 1:28:59 AM PDT by Olog-hai
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai
What the US used for anti-armor in Iraq is depleted uranium rounds in 120mm tank rounds, in 25mm in the Bradley fighting vehicle, and the 30mm gun on the A10. These are kinetic rounds that have a spalding effect that's consequences possibly are the incendiary effect that the article mentions. I don't see the IRA having a Bradley Fighting Vehicle, an M1 tank, or an A10. Unless these rounds are some type of .50 cal, I don't think there is much applicability. The man may be as wicked as the article suggests, but a lot of these guys are also blowhards when it comes to ordnance.

I know about the long standing contact the IRA has with other terrorists groups.

9 posted on 04/28/2014 1:59:17 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: elhombrelibre

There are armor piercing incendiary .50 cal rounds.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raufoss_Mk_211


10 posted on 04/28/2014 2:48:05 AM PDT by SargeK
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai
I want britan the hell out of Ireland. They stole food from them and then they starved them. They are terrorists!!!
11 posted on 04/28/2014 3:45:35 AM PDT by GregB (In memory of Past Your Eyes.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nailbiter

Anniversary of the Easter Rising of 1916 just past this week? Wikipedia has an article on it for quick info. For entertaining info look up Foggy Dew by the New Dubliners.


12 posted on 04/28/2014 3:52:40 AM PDT by BudgieRamone (Everybody loves a bonk on the head.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

And just where and how did he acquire all of those munitions and guns? .....Had to be crooked Federal govt. sources that had access to the goods and the ability to divert them, as well as allowing them to be shipped out of country.


13 posted on 04/28/2014 4:07:52 AM PDT by octex
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SargeK

Yes, of course. They’re called APIC-T. However, you are talking about the tanks the US destroyed in Iraq, the number destroyed by .50 caliber rounds would be pretty far down the line. Also, while they’d be a bad thing in the hands of a terrorists organization, the number they’re talking about (19 rounds) is not a great number. They’re bullets, not nukes.


14 posted on 04/28/2014 4:17:27 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: BudgieRamone; Nailbiter

Young Dubliners, Foggy Dew: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28Bq_2soGIA


15 posted on 04/28/2014 4:30:18 AM PDT by vladimir998
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: F15Eagle

19 .50 cal rounds?!? OMG!

Lock down all the schools, hide the women and children!


16 posted on 04/28/2014 4:31:49 AM PDT by glorgau
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

Comment #17 Removed by Moderator

To: Olog-hai

It’s a British press. They get all in a dither about .22 caliber ammunition, too.


18 posted on 04/28/2014 4:49:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

Fortunately, no one would want GB in her current state. It’s no wonder that Scotland wants independence.


19 posted on 04/28/2014 6:18:11 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: elhombrelibre

Agreed but the Provos are not going after MBTs, but lightly protected personnel carriers.

But yeah, what are they going to do with 19 rounds that they couldn’t do far more effectively with IEDs? Also, they need a gun to fire them from. Did this guy sell them a Barrett too?

The article is pretty drama queen-ish.


20 posted on 04/28/2014 7:49:46 AM PDT by SargeK
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: GregB

No, it was their own people that did that. The landowners were still Irish.

Besides, so long as they are both part of the European Union, one will never be “out of” the other. The whole principle of “ever closer union” after all.


21 posted on 04/28/2014 9:08:49 AM PDT by Olog-hai
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SargeK

Agreed. They’re selling papers.


22 posted on 04/28/2014 12:34:40 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: BudgieRamone

interesting Thanks


23 posted on 04/29/2014 12:22:20 AM PDT by Nailbiter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: GregB

No, they didn’t. Britain in fact gave the Irish food at cost to the UK, and both Protestants and Catholics died in the famine, at least 100000 Protestants died, the UKs own people in Ireland, in the north. Possibly as high as 300000.

The UK also repealed the corn laws to help the Irish. The British made mistakes but the idea they killed only Catholics and did so deliberately is a nonsense.

I want you the hell out of the US, give your land back to the Indians, and apologise for all the brutality against them, I mean if the Brits get out of Ireland, it’s only fair......mmmkay?. If the Brits are terrorists so are you.


24 posted on 04/29/2014 1:25:13 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson