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The gun supremacists' folly (barf alert)
Milwaukee J-S ^ | 28 apr 2014 | E.J. Dionne,Jr

Posted on 04/28/2014 3:16:55 AM PDT by rellimpank

Have we gone stark raving mad?

The question is brought to mind by the new gun law signed last week in Georgia by Gov. Nathan Deal. You might have thought that since the United States couldn't possibly have more permissive firearms laws than it does now, nothing more could be done to coddle the gun lobby and tip the balance of our statutes away from law enforcement. Alas, you would be wrong.

The creativity of the National Rifle Association and other organizations devoted to establishing conditions in which every man, woman and child in our nation will have to be armed is awe inspiring. Where imagination is concerned, the best absurdist artists and writers have nothing on the NRA. No wonder Stephen Colbert has decided to move on from the realm of satire. When parody becomes reality, the challenges facing even a comedian of his talents can become insurmountable.

You might not have thought that the inability of people to pack while praying was a big problem. Georgia's political leaders think otherwise, so the new law allows people to carry guns in their houses of worship. True, congregations can set their own rules, but some pastors wonder about the confusion this provision will create, and those who would keep their sanctuaries gun-free may worry about being branded as liberal elitists. Maybe the Georgia Legislature will help them by requiring a rewrite of the Scriptures. "Blessed are the peacemakers" can become "Blessed are the gun owners."

You will also be able to tote weapons into bars and their parking facilities if the bar gra

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; mandatorybarfalert; mba; rkba
--the usual from E.J.--
1 posted on 04/28/2014 3:16:56 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

E.J.’s mouth didn’t get that way from eating bananas.


2 posted on 04/28/2014 3:24:45 AM PDT by Octar
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To: rellimpank

Hey EJ, ESAD, you worthless fascist.


3 posted on 04/28/2014 3:27:47 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; george76

—ping—


4 posted on 04/28/2014 3:29:58 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Apple Pan Dowdy; bfh333; Broker; clee1; ctdonath2; dansangel; Dick Bachert; ...

GA FReeper ping.

More hyperventilation from the Left over HB 60.


5 posted on 04/28/2014 3:37:46 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: VRWC For Truth
ESAD, you worthless fascist.

I'll put you down as "leaning negative".

;-)

6 posted on 04/28/2014 3:38:05 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: rellimpank

Every time gun law are eased guys like this yell that the streets will run red with blood. And it never happens!
That’s because people who are law abiding don’t run around committing crimes like murder and assault with a deadly weapon!
Duh!


7 posted on 04/28/2014 3:40:39 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: rellimpank

Hey E.J. My wife and I talked about this last night. Nathan brought the bill to Ellijay near where we live to sign it. EXCITING! Done at high noon.....had a barbeque afterwards, too!

Nathan put up his right hand and flipped a big ole country boy bird to Atlanta Gun Grabbers and those new Democrat funded Mommies against Guns (whatever the hell they call themselves). We laughed and laughed about it for about 10 minutes...

There’s your folly, E.J.


8 posted on 04/28/2014 3:41:03 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Effing gun grabbers suck. : )


9 posted on 04/28/2014 3:44:02 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: rellimpank

Wow! So much stupidity in one place! And, no time to respond.
Suffice to say that E.J. does proud the dhimmicrap, libtard attack on firearms ownership and self protection.

As it has been said...I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
And, because when seconds count, the cops are minutes away.

The sad part of this is that the libtards will come crying for protection when the SHTF, never realizing or caring that their own control-freak-mindset created the problem.


10 posted on 04/28/2014 3:44:33 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: rellimpank

Read it again.
This time, replace “cops” and “authorities” with JACKBOOTED GOVERNMENT THUGS.
This guy is absolutely correct. If you want tyranny and absolute “government” control—this kind of bill is a disaster.
It all depends on your point of view.


11 posted on 04/28/2014 3:48:50 AM PDT by Flintlock (islam is a LIE, mohammmud a CRIMINAL, sharia is POISON!)
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To: rellimpank
Only three comments (so far), all opposing the opinion. Most recent comment:

"--if the "gun" situation has proven anything over the last twenty-some years , it is that the proliferation of legally purchased firearms has occurred at the same time as a general lowering of crime rates except in a rather easily defined social and ethnic group found primarily in large, densely populated urban areas where "legal" firearms purchase is almost unknown---"

True, dat.

12 posted on 04/28/2014 3:52:58 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Sooth2222

—yep—those of us “gunnuts” who post on the J-S usually outnumber the anti’s about ten to one-—


13 posted on 04/28/2014 3:59:32 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank
“Blessed are the peacemakers”

Probably doesn't realize what he did there.

14 posted on 04/28/2014 4:32:36 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: rellimpank
Actually, I could think of a lot more y'all could do to "appease" gun enthusiasts like me, who believe that "...Shall not be infringed." means just that.

We could start with a repeal fest which would remove laws from the NFA of '34 to the present, for starters.

Then I might feel a tad appeased.

Until then, we fight.

15 posted on 04/28/2014 4:42:49 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: rellimpank

I see Ol’ Mush Mouth is at it again, distorting facts and verbally defecating the end product.


16 posted on 04/28/2014 4:52:57 AM PDT by Viking2002
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To: rellimpank

EJ clearly stand for Enervating Jackass. Maybe EJ is too young to remember a time when the KKK was bombing and burning churches but it takes a special kind of stupid to reason that the peaceful intentions of parishioners somehow equates to peaceful intentions of others. I’ve seen obvious proof to the contrary.


17 posted on 04/28/2014 5:02:32 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: rellimpank

“You might not have thought that the inability of people to pack while praying was a big problem”

Mmmm. Christians are being slaughtered in houses of worship all across the globe. When we have a “president” who will always stand for muslims when ill winds blow, ya’ have to know that the slaughter of Christians in this country can’t be far behind with the “president” making sure that no harm befalls them when acting out.


18 posted on 04/28/2014 5:13:48 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: CrazyIvan

Aside from the mountains of data proving “Peace through Strength” works.


19 posted on 04/28/2014 5:21:06 AM PDT by G Larry (In the beginning there was "Right" and "Wrong" and we've been compromising in the "Wrong" direction)
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To: rellimpank

I’m trying to think of the last Dionne column I’ve read where I’ve agreed with him on at least a few issues. I can’t think of one. In every column of his I’ve read over the years (and I’ve read scores), he comes off as a complete leftist loon. Even some other lib scribblers (Richard Cohen) have written columns where I’ve agreed with some of the things they’ve written.


20 posted on 04/28/2014 5:27:38 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: rellimpank

Usual TRIPE! Where is his diatribe tripe on SHOELACES? Fence Post? Ask the mother of this 8 year old about the SHOELACES.

PLEASE HELP GET NIKI JUSTICE. ALL FEDERAL AND STATE APPEALS HAVE BEEN EXHAUSTED, ALL DUE PROCESS FOR THE PREP DONE!

NONE FOR THE VICTIM OR VICTIM’S FAMILY!

Ashley Nichole (Nikki) Read 8 yrs old. Here is something you can do to help this 8 year old. She has waited 24 yrs for JUSTICE to be carried out. JUST IMAGINE IF SHE WERE YOUR DAUGHTER, GRAND DAUGHTER, SISTER, NIECE.

You do not have to live in TN to call our governor to request justice for Nikki.

TN Gov email is bill.haslam@tn.gov PHONE calls work best 615-741-2001 TN Gov .

David Keen
http://murderpedia.org/male.K/k/keen-david.htm

This CHILD RAPIST/MURDER HAS RUN OUT OF ALL 20 YRS OF APPEALS, 2 JURIES HANDED DOWN THE DEATH PENALTY, TN GOV Halsam still has NOT SET AN EXECUTION DATE OR SIGNED A DEATH WARRANT, tell him to carry out his Constitutional duty!

This is going on 20 years of appeals. DNA & confession proved he did it.

He raped, strangled to death with her OWN SHOE LACES 8 year old Ashley ‘Nikki’ Read and then threw her body in the river. Even helped hunt for what was thought to be a missing child. Justice has been denied, her mom Debbie still grieves as there is no closure allowed by the Injustice system. She ended up having a nervous break down because it has taken so long and still NO JUSTICE for Nikki.


21 posted on 04/28/2014 5:29:28 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: servo1969

Here in Wisconsin, people are armed to the teeth. Yet outside of Milwaukee, gun violence (or violence period) is rare. The leftist conceit is that having access to firearms turns a normally mild-mannered, peaceful lover of all people into a raging, homicidal maniac. When that doesn’t happen, libs are not happy. Because it destroys their argument.


22 posted on 04/28/2014 5:30:29 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: rellimpank

Word of caution, crime is not counted accurately. More of our governments fuzzy math tricks. It is Hierarchical Counted, only the most serious crime is counted if there were actually 4 crimes committed at the time. Kidnap, rape, rob then kill a person, only the murder counts. Rest flushed down the toilet.

Local State 11 month 29 day facilities are at a 85%+ RECIDIVISM rate. Depending on state and county. 85% is Memphis/Shelby County, TN.

Recidivism
http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=17
These offenders had accumulated 4.1 million arrest charges before their most recent imprisonment and another 744,000 charges within 3 years of release.

Older study, but invaluable info.

Keep in mind the sampling was just 45%, they originally committed 25,900 crimes, when placed early release under ‘community’ supervision for parole and probation they then committed another 74,400 new crimes. That folks adds up to 100,300 crimes, and many times more than in victims. As there are multiple people affected when a child is raped or a person murdered.

Probation & Parolee’s

https://www.ncjrs.gov/txtfiles/ppvsp91.txt
In 1991, 45% of State prisoners were persons who, at the time they committed their offense, were under conditional supervision in the community—either on probation or on parole. They then committed an additional 74,400 new crimes. Their original crimes add up to 25,900. The NEW crimes FAR out ceded their REPEAT CRIMES. Total 100,300 crimes this is JUST 45% of the parole and probation population.

FBI: More Club and Hammer Homicides Than Rifle

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/14107-fbi-more-club-and-hammer-homicides-than-rifle

More guns less crime
http://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2012/07/28/assault-weapons-facts-vs-fiction/

WORST GENOCIDES IN HISTORY
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html

Doctors kill 2,450% more Americans than all gun-related deaths combined
http://www.infowars.com/doctors-kill-2450-more-americans-than-all-gun-related-deaths-combined/


23 posted on 04/28/2014 5:42:18 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: rellimpank
...the United States couldn't possibly have more permissive firearms laws than it does now...

Ha! That's a good one. I believe only a couple of states have "Constitutional Carry." In other places you are banned from open/concealed carry. In many places you must get a "permit" to exercise your right. Hey, how'd you like to have to get a permit to set up a facebook account? How about a license for an email address? Sound idiotic, sound like a violation of your 1st Amendment rights? But hey, the founding fathers never anticipated that technology... (shooting down another argument from the libtard gun-grabbers)

How about other gun laws? Background checks to make a purchase. Magazine capacity limits. Banned features. Banned imports. Banned ammunition. Gun free zones.

So the whole idea of "...couldn't possibly have more permissive firearms laws..." is blatantly incorrect and calls into question everything the "article" is based on.

Oh, and if you are looking for an example of "stark raving mad" just consider that many places - including most schools - have a security strategy that is basically "put up a 'gun free zone' sign and hope for the best." Yet every single mass shooting event, with only one exception, since 1960 has been in a place where private citizens were barred from being armed. That is madness.

How many more innocents, particularly innocent children, have to die before it finally sinks through the thick, indoctrinated skulls of the liberal idiots that gun free zones do not work! To me, these are the surest signs of liberal mental illness. Seriously, not making a joke, not just taking pot-shots at liberals. I truly believe that advocates for gun free zones are suffering from some form of mental illness, some cognitive disconnect. Anyone with a shred of common sense can see that they will not work, that they render people vulnerable. Yet liberals are so blinded by their faith, so disconnected from reality that they continue to promote gun free zones. Madness. They should seek professional help and treatment. Soon. Today.

24 posted on 04/28/2014 6:25:42 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: rellimpank

It would have been nice if this fool had read the bill before he started to knee jerk bloviate but then again, I beginning to believe Democrats are incapable of anything other than emotional outbursts based on what they perceive to be true rather than what is true.


25 posted on 04/28/2014 6:29:58 AM PDT by mort56
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; blackie; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Boilerplate bleating from the frightened, angry, little sheep.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

26 posted on 04/28/2014 6:45:16 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: CrazyIvan

When I was a kid I always snickered in church when the Beatitudes were read and “Blessed are the Peacemakers” made me picture Jesus and His disciples armed with long barreled Colt six shooters.

Anyway, Dionne is this disgusting little man with a real case of power envy. He looks at liberal heavyweights like LBJ, Ted Kennedy, and Robert Byrd and thinks, “if only that were me”.

Hey - they’re all dead. The day looks better already.


27 posted on 04/28/2014 6:47:04 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: driftless2

—yeah—I check his first few lines to see if it’s the usual anti-gun garbage, and in instances like this pass it on—otherwise he is a total waste of time-—


28 posted on 04/28/2014 7:14:42 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank

“Georgia’s political leaders think otherwise, so the new law allows people to carry guns in their houses of worship.

So what is the problem? I’m sure that EJ wouldn’t be caught dead in a church.


29 posted on 04/28/2014 7:26:30 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Octar

“Blessed are the peacemakers”

Yeh Colt Peacemakers. :-)


30 posted on 04/28/2014 7:36:57 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: CrazyIvan

I caught that too, Peacemakers.
Just how do you enforce the Peace?
Not by bleating like sheep.
I really sense desparation in the cries of the liberals
as though they are finally catching on that the country
is not turning their way.


31 posted on 04/28/2014 7:41:17 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: rellimpank

32 posted on 04/28/2014 7:55:47 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: rellimpank

Whether parishioners are forbidden, allowed, or required to carry firearms within a church is a matter for that church, and only for that church. The government has no business in the matter.


33 posted on 04/28/2014 8:19:19 AM PDT by jdege
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To: rellimpank

Ah, Newspeak! Lovely to have our Orwellian betters inform us of the new, approved, politically correct vernacular. We have “Gun Supremacists” now, a rather nasty slur that deliberately resembles White Supremacists, and from a headline yesterday, “Gun Reform” instead of the more accurate “Confiscation by a Fascist Government”. The arbiters of modern language are working overtime to frame the issue their way but I think we’ve reached the point where it’s too stilted and contrived to catch on. If E.J. could possibly feel any shame for promoting idiot neologisms, he should.


34 posted on 04/28/2014 8:48:19 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: rellimpank
You might have thought that since the United States couldn't possibly have more permissive firearms laws than it does now, nothing more could be done to coddle the gun lobby and tip the balance of our statutes away from law enforcement.

So....then you admit the current batch of laws isn't as biased toward freedom as you've been telling everyone. Shocking admission. Thanks!

35 posted on 04/28/2014 9:12:12 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: rellimpank
You might not have thought that the inability of people to pack while praying was a big problem.

People can and have gone into churches and committed mass shootings. Wouldn't it make sense to have the non-deranged people capable of defending themselves?

those who would keep their sanctuaries gun-free may worry about being branded as liberal elitists.

So your position is that we should enact liberal laws so liberals can pretend not to be liberal? That's the first time I've heard that one. Can't do the time, don't do the crime. Plus, if you prefer a gun-free congregation, wouldn't you prefer that those nasty freedom-lovers be driven out to worship somewhere else anyway by finding out who you guys really were?

36 posted on 04/28/2014 9:17:28 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Sooth2222

Waycisss!


37 posted on 04/28/2014 9:19:37 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: freeangel
When we have a “president” who will always stand for muslims when ill winds blow, ya’ have to know that the slaughter of Christians in this country can’t be far behind with the “president” making sure that no harm befalls them when acting out.

....which they can't do if those darned Christians can shoot back.

38 posted on 04/28/2014 9:22:42 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: driftless2

Agreed. I can’t read the guy without constantly mumbling “What a moron!” under my breath every three sentences.


39 posted on 04/28/2014 9:40:31 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: rellimpank

More thumbsucking from E.J. whoopee...


40 posted on 04/28/2014 5:34:33 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Smokin' Joe

Awesome, someone that agrees with me that we need to repeal NFA 34.


41 posted on 04/28/2014 7:19:44 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a pessimist, I say plenty of negative things. Consider it a warning of sorts.)
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To: wastedyears

Oh, I think that too.


42 posted on 04/28/2014 8:19:44 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: rellimpank
Okay EJ, we get it...you don't like us having guns. You want 'em? Come get 'em, Commie.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

43 posted on 04/29/2014 6:28:53 AM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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