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Bill O'Reilly: The Cliven Bundy controversy
Fox News ^ | 04-24-2014 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 04/28/2014 6:01:30 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016

When the story broke about the feds going to Nevada, to make a rancher pay grazing fees, my staff did what it always does. We researched and found out the facts and those are these. That rancher Cliven Bundy broke the law for many years by not paying the fees, that the federal government owns the land and that the State of Nevada readily admits the feds have jurisdiction in the grazing controversy. Those are the facts.

So, we presented them to you and then mildly criticized the feds for overreacting. You may remember, Judge Napolitano and I basically said it's a waste of taxpayer money to conduct a raid and seize cattle. You simply use the legal system to eventually make Bundy pay up.

Now, most of you agreed with our analysis. A few threw in with Mr. Bundy but not very many. However some commentators including a handful on Fox News rallied to Mr. Bundy's side. But most Fox News people did not. And that's why we're successful. We have a wide variety of opinion expressed in a vibrant way.

Now, we know that Cliven Bundy is a man who does not see things clearly. He made very offensive ignorant remarks about African-Americans and was roundly condemned for doing so. But here is something interesting. Mr. Bundy is also sympathetic to Hispanics.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: billoreilly; blm; bor; bundy; bundyranch; clivenbundy; foxnews; nevada; oreilly; tedbaxter

1 posted on 04/28/2014 6:01:30 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: PaulCruz2016

Who is this guy an why is anybody paying him attention?


2 posted on 04/28/2014 6:03:02 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: PaulCruz2016

This just in:

Bill O’Reilly is awesome according to Bill O’Reilly!


3 posted on 04/28/2014 6:03:27 AM PDT by Reagan‹berAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: PaulCruz2016

All I can say to Mr. O’Reilly is that “vibrant” is not a substitute for “bloviate”.


4 posted on 04/28/2014 6:04:51 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: PaulCruz2016

Bill is a POS. Who cares what he says?


5 posted on 04/28/2014 6:06:48 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

Ted
Baxter

‘nuff said.


6 posted on 04/28/2014 6:08:08 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: PaulCruz2016

Bug off, Baxter.


7 posted on 04/28/2014 6:08:23 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: PaulCruz2016

O’Reilly does a victory lap for us to marvel at his huge brain.


8 posted on 04/28/2014 6:08:57 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: PaulCruz2016

I haven’t watched him in years. He’s lazy and just reports what his staff tells him to think.


9 posted on 04/28/2014 6:10:35 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: PaulCruz2016
..and yet OReilley's staff was unable to come up with this? When hundreds of others have?

Bravo Sierra.

OReilley is more invested in his own vision of "Fair and Balanced," and particularly of him being seen as the king thereof, than he is in the truth.

Either that, or his staff is inept.


Bundy's Black Militia Body Guard would take a bullet for him

The man in the above YouTube video is named Jason Bullock. He is a is a six-year Army veteran who is out in Nevada and has volunteered to serve as one of Cliven Bundy's bodyguards.

As you can see, Jason Bullock is also a black American.

That's what he had to say about Cliven Bundy, early this week, after Bundy's remarks were widly reported, and when CNN interviewed Bullock and asked him if Cliven Bundy's remarks had offended him.

"No, not at all. Mr. Bundy is not a racist.

"Ever since I've been here, he's treated me with nothing but hospitality. He's pretty much treating me just like his own family.

"I would take a bullet for that man if need be. I look up to him just like I do my own grandfather. I believe in his cause and after having met Mr. Bundy, I have a really good feeling about him and I'm a pretty good judge of character."



A black, veteran Marine, writes his testimonial about Cliven Bundy
The media distorts information to the point of social division. Above is a photo of myself and the resilient, often charismatic, and maybe not so tactful Cliven Bundy. He’s a cowboy and a helluva family man, not an orator.

One thing he definitely isn’t – a racist. I found his comments to not only be NOT racist, but his own view of his experiences. Who the heck are we to determine another man’s perspective on the world around him?! Just because Picasso’s view of the world was abstract, does it negate the fact that his art was genuine?

Furthermore, if you take the time to do your own research, you’ll find that his statements about some black Americans actually hold weight. He posed a hypothetical question. He said, “I wonder IF” … Hell, I’m black and I often wonder about the same about the decline of the black family.

Bottom line is that we are all slaves in this waning republic, no matter our skin color. Mr. Bundy could have used any racial demographic as an example: Native Americans on reservations, whites in trailer parks, etc. He noticed the crippling effects of receiving government “assistance” and the long term result of accepting handouts.

It’s not progress at all. I challenge Sean Hannity, Rand Paul, and others to read my comment and reconsider their position in this matter. Individual liberties are at stake here, yours and mine. THAT is the issue.

Don’t let the liberal media and ignoramuses like Glenn Beck and that weasel Harry Reid make you lose sight of the real issue here: The federal government is a burgeoning behemoth and a bully on a once constitutional playground.I sincerely hope you real patriots out there who can see through the smoke.

Semper Fidelis

These testimonials, from black Americans who know Cliven Bundy personally, and who have been to his home, speak for themselves. All the rush to judgement about this man, is just that. He asked a legitimate question about the impact of the social welfare/subsidy programs on American citizens...and it is an important question. He did not phrase it well...and the comparison to slavery in the south does not hold. So, what? So he is not an orator. So his speech is not eloquent.

Perhaps Cliven Bundy has what some may call a big wart on him. Again, so what? We all do.

That does not make him a racist, or a bigot in the least, despite what Bill OReilly, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and others may think or say. Those people have raitings and a lot of money riding on how they respond and what people think about their words...Cliven Bundy spoke straight...as best he could, and his underlying point is completely valid. And those two black veterans who know him, agree and stand by him. And one of those men feels so strongly about it, that he, a black US Army veteran, would take a bullet for the man. That carries a WHOLE lot more weight with me.

10 posted on 04/28/2014 6:13:38 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: PaulCruz2016

I am LONG over BOR.


11 posted on 04/28/2014 6:15:38 AM PDT by moovova
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To: PaulCruz2016
O'Reilly is a deliberate two-faced, word juggling fool. He wants to have it both ways. He peddles the ‘middle of the road’ BS and I refuse to watch him anymore. What on earth did he just say in this piece anyway? It reads like so much mumbo jumbo to me.
12 posted on 04/28/2014 6:19:43 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: PaulCruz2016

Oh really O’Reilly? Asks Ted O’Baxter. Loofahs on sale in aisle 3!


13 posted on 04/28/2014 6:21:36 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: PaulCruz2016

I have long since given up listening to anything said by A$$wipe O’ Really, it having been proven to me that he serves himself best of all.


14 posted on 04/28/2014 6:25:15 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: moovova

I am long over watching any television news programs.

If I can’t read about it on FR, I don’t need to know it…..


15 posted on 04/28/2014 6:28:51 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: PaulCruz2016
Interesting comment on the economic well-being of blacks. There was a very thorough research project done on the subject that became a book titled Time on the Cross by Robert Fogel and Stanley Engerman. The project was divided into two volumes, the first a readable narrative of the conclusions and the second the actual theory and statistics behind the conclusions.

As a grad student majoring in Cliometrics, I heard both men speak on the book at OSU. Their conclusion was that, in terms of economic well-being, antebellum slaves were better off than postbellum slaves. At the Q&A session afterwards, a black reporter accused Fogel of being a racist bigot, obviously, having not read either volume. When he finished what was really a rant rather than a question, a black lady stood up, look him in the eye, and asked him if he had read the book, to which the reporter admitted he had not. But to save face, he launched into another racist diatribe. The black lady, again, told him he didn't know what he was talking about. Fogel then said: "I see you have met my wife." Oddly...nothing more from the snotnosed reporter.

16 posted on 04/28/2014 6:33:21 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

HE’S DOIN’ IT LIVE.


17 posted on 04/28/2014 6:33:36 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Mechanicos

Exactly. He doesn’t want to know the truth. It’s staring him in the face and he still refuses to look at it. Bill, go back and write your fiction mysteries. You have a real talent there.


18 posted on 04/28/2014 6:52:22 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: PaulCruz2016

Yeah, Bill, and you saw the Obamadork’s “real” birth certificate, too.

You are so full of Obamastuff you’d float.

A pox on Fox for having you.


19 posted on 04/28/2014 7:03:41 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Reagan√úberAlles
Breaking News!

Bill O’Reilly thinks that Bill O’Reilly has a much higher opinion of Bill O’Reilly than can be expressed in the mere word awesome.

20 posted on 04/28/2014 7:06:23 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Please excuse the potholes in this tagline. Social programs have to take priority in our funding.)
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To: econjack

What a great story. Thanks.


21 posted on 04/28/2014 7:10:53 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: basil

Same here.


22 posted on 04/28/2014 7:13:39 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: PaulCruz2016

“If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.” - Thomas Jefferson


23 posted on 04/28/2014 7:14:07 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: McGavin999

The husband still DVRs O’Reilly’s so that he can watch his “Memo”. I have come to despise BOR almost as much as I despise Obamugabe, so I will not stay in the room while he watches.

There was a time when I watched BOR rather regularly, but I now realize what a total jerk he is. What makes it more infuriating is that he pretends to lean toward a conservative perspective. All part of the progressives’ undermining of our culture.

Sadly, my favorite sister will not miss his show and reads all of his books.


24 posted on 04/28/2014 7:16:40 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

Since “racism” is the most pressing issue for our clueless elite then I have a question. Has BOR ever uttered any anti-white statements in his life?


25 posted on 04/28/2014 7:20:44 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

“Millions of other Americans were killed or wounded to end slavery during the Civil War.”

Lost me right there.

Union: ~ 365,000 total dead. 275,200 wounded.
Confederacy: ~260,000 total dead. 137,000+ wounded.
Civilians: 50,000 to 250,000. (No accurate count exists.)

Total estimate, about 1 million.


26 posted on 04/28/2014 7:36:42 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: PaulCruz2016
What you and your common jackasses overlook is that the Southwest is owned by the Federal Government. Ever research that? And then check the rest of America. The Federal Government owns almost nothing except DC. Now why did this happen. Maybe the government decided it wanted to own the west and deny those States sovereignty. And the Government stole the land over time and without consulting the States. A crime was committed and it was to the Western States. The Federal Government owns 83% of the State of NV. Why?
27 posted on 04/28/2014 7:50:58 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Mechanicos

Who is this guy an why is anybody paying him attention?

**************

No one knows. Like teats on a boar, he is just there.


28 posted on 04/28/2014 8:02:16 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Jeff Head

“Bottom line is that we are all slaves in this waning republic, no matter our skin color. Mr. Bundy could have used any racial demographic as an example: Native Americans on reservations, whites in trailer parks, etc. He noticed the crippling effects of receiving government “assistance” and the long term result of accepting handouts.

It’s not progress at all. I challenge Sean Hannity, Rand Paul, and others to read my comment and reconsider their position in this matter. Individual liberties are at stake here, yours and mine. THAT is the issue.”

Superb quote from the marine, which goes right to the heart of the matter.


29 posted on 04/28/2014 8:07:06 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Jeff Head

That was well said and just the way I took Bundy’s remarks.

Besides hasn’t Ted Baxter been saying the same thing as Bundy for months on end but being ever so PC by not using the words slavery or Negro ?

The Factor has been on a Culture Crusade over the entitlement society, and that it will lead to the downfall of America.
He’s been on a rant against the evils of drugs, abortion, street gangs, low expectations, and on and on.

What I notice O’Reilly doing a lot is always finding some scapegoat on the Right that he can tear into so that he can appear fair, honest and even handed. Sickeningly, they all do it. It is like a ritual PC cleansing for the sake of their careers.


30 posted on 04/28/2014 8:08:55 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: PaulCruz2016

“Now, most of you agreed with our analysis. A few threw in with Mr. Bundy but not very many”

Bill you’re insane. Almost nobody agreed with your stupid analysis.


31 posted on 04/28/2014 8:09:58 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: econjack

Excellent anecdote! I first read that in a feminist book titled “Womenfolk” as I recall. A southern feminist had taken up her quill to slay the patriarch dragon and stumbled across the living standard comparison between plantation slaves and housing project and welfare inmates.

The principal evils of slavery were not economic. They were more the slave being forced into a position of dependency, forced association and the threat of confiscation of family members. Sort of what citizens face at the hand of government authorities today.


32 posted on 04/28/2014 8:23:16 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
The difference between oh'really and Baxter is, TED was actually kinda like-able.

http://www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/ted-baxter-bill-oreilly-e1276176229589.jpg

33 posted on 04/28/2014 8:29:49 AM PDT by FBD
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To: PaulCruz2016

Please, you’ve ruined my morning coffee. Bill O’Gasbag doesn’t deserve a single line on FR!


34 posted on 04/28/2014 8:36:15 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: FBD

touche


35 posted on 04/28/2014 8:46:05 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: PaulCruz2016

You forgot to put a BARF Alert on this article.


36 posted on 04/28/2014 8:59:44 AM PDT by FBD
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To: skeeter
F*** iT! LIVE! WE'RE DOING IT LIVE! !!!

http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Bigmageta/media/Bill_Oreilly.jpg.html

37 posted on 04/28/2014 9:08:02 AM PDT by FBD
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To: Jeff Head

Amen Bro


38 posted on 04/28/2014 10:31:38 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Jeff Head

Sean Hannity and or Oriely should interview that black man. He does know what Bundy really is, and it is not a racist.

If they will not interview him, I accuse them of politically correct cowardice.


39 posted on 04/28/2014 10:36:01 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: cpdiii

Seems like BOR is getting his talking point directly from the mac daddy administration.

His interview with mac daddy was as soft an interview as could be possible, while saying that he was being respectful.


40 posted on 04/28/2014 10:53:12 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: PaulCruz2016

0’Reilly sucks and so does his staff’s research.


41 posted on 04/28/2014 12:20:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Jeff Head
So far as I can tell, the only mistake Cliven Bundy made was using the archaic term "Negro." And the only reason that term is archaic (Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. used it regularly, look it up) is because about the time I was in junior high school, it was declared archaic by the thought police. We were told that the proper term was "African-American" or "Black."

Bundy is at least half a generation older than I am, so I would guess he never got the memo from the thought police. Or maybe he just doesn't give a damn.

Whatever. How can it be racist to use exactly the same term used by St. Martin Luther King, Jr.?

42 posted on 04/28/2014 1:39:24 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
.... archaic term "Negro."

"Negro" is now almost the equivalent in politically correct circles of the other "N" word. It is apparently OK for use by the United Negro College Fund. "Colored People" is in the same category, being kept around for the exclusive use of the NAACP.

Under no circumstances must white people use any terms that are exclusively for the use of black people in their everyday speech. Or screen writers like Tarantino.

43 posted on 04/29/2014 2:28:58 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Yo Bro, your homie Barry he be on the down-low.)
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