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Latest Obamacare Challenge for Dems: Where's My $2,500 Savings?
NewsMax ^ | 27 Apr 2014 | Greg Richter

Posted on 04/28/2014 6:44:30 AM PDT by Cheerio

As the midterm election approaches, vulnerable Democrats have a new worry that may be difficult to spin: Where did the promised $2,500 savings in health insurance premiums go?

As a candidate in 2008, Barack Obama repeatedly said his healthcare plan would reduce the typical family's annual premiums by up to $2,500 per year. Often, he did not include the caveat "up to," simply saying the "typical" family would save about $2,500 a year on premiums.

But now, a month past the signup deadline for coverage, comparisons for the typical family's then and now premium costs are difficult to come by. The Obama administration isn't issuing such numbers. At best, it has said the costs are "lower than projected," reported most recently by the Los Angeles Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: dems; obamacare

1 posted on 04/28/2014 6:44:30 AM PDT by Cheerio
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To: Cheerio

W. stole it.


2 posted on 04/28/2014 6:45:20 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Cheerio

What he really meant to say was “I’m gonna give you entitlement leeches way more than $2500 of free medical care you don’t have to pay sh!t for.”


3 posted on 04/28/2014 6:45:42 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Cheerio

Well, that was an “average”.

Once you take into account the “divide by zero” amounts of “savings” that those who didn’t have insurance and are now getting it for “free”,

then that $2500 average “savings” can be justified.


4 posted on 04/28/2014 6:46:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Cheerio

On, come on...You all know this clown is an inveterate liar, why would you expect something even closely resembling the truth to dribble out?


5 posted on 04/28/2014 6:47:47 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: Cheerio
Where's My $2,500 Savings?

That's a racist question, why ask it? /sarc

6 posted on 04/28/2014 6:49:12 AM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: econjack

I agree. Liars lie. Its what they do. Obama is an expert.


7 posted on 04/28/2014 6:50:36 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Cheerio

Bump for later


8 posted on 04/28/2014 6:51:50 AM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: Tulane

If you want your $2,500 savings don’t sign on to 0h bummer-noncare.


9 posted on 04/28/2014 6:51:55 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: Cheerio

They’ll probably tell us that “our” $2,500 savings was redistributed to a poor, more deserving individual in the form of a subsidy.


10 posted on 04/28/2014 6:52:16 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: jsanders2001

He could have said the average family would save $500,000 dollars. Would not have mattered.

The average LIV listening to his speeches heard that their healthcare would be FREE.

THAT is why he is really in trouble.


11 posted on 04/28/2014 6:52:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cheerio

If the MSM researched and reported every lie he has told, they’d have to hire a thousand new reporters.


12 posted on 04/28/2014 6:57:29 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Buckeye McFrog

And your average liberal O-care supporter heard
“you’re a good person for wanting to give everyone free healthcare”.


13 posted on 04/28/2014 6:58:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Cheerio

A question: if the $2,500 savings are not there but the prices are lower than projected, isn’t that an admission that they flat out lied when promising the $2,500 reductions?


14 posted on 04/28/2014 6:59:49 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Gaffer

Sounds as plausible as anything. Ding the increasingly rare taxpayer who is being played for a sucker.

As Iowa farm corny as it sounds, we need to all embrace God again. We’ve been treating God like a sometimes acquaintance, even to the point that sometimes is only once on the weekend, and something more like an every minute, every hour, every day embrace will be needed to blast past the grasp of hell. (That even kind of rhymes... Blast past the grasp! Blast past the grasp! to the tune of Bang Shang a Lang)

This is hurting even the “entitlement” class. They are living lives full of ennui. Mere dollars alone don’t satisfy. What are they used for? To buy emptiness? If they heard a rousing gospel, that situation could change and Obama and his minions could have a serious political rebellion on their hands, but grounded in a theological rebellion.


15 posted on 04/28/2014 7:00:02 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: MrB

Even this will turn out to be ennui if there is nothing more. People won’t want it for their empty meaningless lives. We’ll be seeing suicides and “euthanasia” like in the Netherlands.


16 posted on 04/28/2014 7:02:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
They are living lives full of ennui

Their entitled boredom unfortunately translates into vehemence and harm against others that deign to criticize their useless existence. Any hint of proposing they actually earn what they get is met with vitriol and arrogant defiance. Our leader and his ilk perpetuate it with their pitiful accommodation.

I wholly agree. They need GOD. They don't need Allah, they don't need the Messiah - they need GOD. But they won't get a leader who doesn't even know what that is unless it is his image in the mirror.

17 posted on 04/28/2014 7:12:44 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: corlorde

While the branding of someone as “racist” still has some measure of sting, it is certainly much less effective today than it was only a few years ago, primarily because of its inappropriate application and extreme overuse.

In fact, it may be turning into a sort of badge of honor, indirectly tweaking both Eric Holder and the Current Occupant now squatting in the White Hut, both of them being examples of the cruelty and ruthless nature of promoting someone though Affirmative Action.

Once they had been promoted beyond their level of competency, they are daily proven to be the phony mediocrities they really are.

“Where’s My $2,500 Savings?”

“Don’t know. Above my pay grade.”


18 posted on 04/28/2014 7:13:43 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: Gaffer

I think upside-selling will be suitable. That it’s worth it to go to the bother of pursuing an enterprise that does not deal in misery and degradation. “You ought to earn...” is going to fall flat if they put their hope in the Enemy. They see this in a purely humanistic framework and of course it sounds like nonsense in that framework.

“You can gain great dignity by...” points, if indirectly, to God.


19 posted on 04/28/2014 7:16:25 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: econjack
"You all know this clown is an inveterate liar, why would you expect something even closely resembling the truth to dribble out?"

The only thing worse than the lies he speaks, are the lies he doesn't speak.

20 posted on 04/28/2014 7:16:39 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Gaffer

“God loves you and YET, He wants you to love Him more than you do now, and He wants to make that possible if you are willing to walk through the trials that will take.”

That is, I believe, the key or very close to it. I do robustly affirm that Christianity is a valid explanation of how this takes place. God undergoing visible agony for the sake of love, and yet insisting that love BE love. He isn’t interested in being a sugar daddy for a devil.


21 posted on 04/28/2014 7:20:56 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: jsanders2001

Liars lie. Its what they do. Obama is an expert.

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Yes, he’s pretty good at it but then again most Americans are quite gullible and easily fooled. Its not hard taking candy from a baby.


22 posted on 04/28/2014 7:33:08 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Buckeye McFrog

He also promised “Recovery Summer” five years ago. He lies with complete impunity.


23 posted on 04/28/2014 7:36:29 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard

> Yes, he’s pretty good at it but then again most Americans are quite gullible and easily fooled. Its not hard taking candy from a baby

Too bad the babies can vote. The look for qualities like “coolness”and “swagger” you know. “Well duhhhh...it’s like waaaaay more important than character or experience ya know”....


24 posted on 04/28/2014 7:56:03 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

> Yes, he’s pretty good at it but then again most Americans are quite gullible and easily fooled. Its not hard taking candy from a baby

Too bad the babies can vote. They look for qualities like “coolness”and “swagger” you know. “Well duhhhh...it’s like waaaaay more important than character or experience ya know”....


25 posted on 04/28/2014 7:56:45 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Cheerio

Well, if you had insurance and were paying $2,500 plus for it and now you can’t afford it, I guess you could say that because of Obamacare you are saving $2,500?


26 posted on 04/28/2014 8:06:40 AM PDT by mom.mom
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To: PoloSec
The only thing worse than the lies he speaks, are the lies he doesn't speak.

Good point...

27 posted on 04/28/2014 8:15:04 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: Cheerio

People are just too ignorant to see it! Shut up and listen to your overlords!


28 posted on 04/28/2014 8:54:07 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Cheerio

Both yahoo and the NYT have articles saying basically, “Despite the fact that most Americans are SO much better off with the Affordable Care Act, a small minority are not, and for some reason, people have a negative view of it.”

How I hate the lying liberal media. Sometimes I wonder if they are self-deceptive libs, but sometimes I know they are just Goebbels-like propagandists shilling for the state. This is one of those times.

No, the reason the people HATE the “ACA” is because practically NOBODY is better off with it. And the only reason they have any signups at all is because the tyranny of the state is FORCING them.


29 posted on 04/28/2014 9:10:28 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: I still care
Both yahoo and the NYT have articles saying basically, “Despite the fact that most Americans are SO much better off with the Affordable Care Act, a small minority are not, and for some reason, people have a negative view of it.”

SPIN it all you want lying OMG media - when people get the bill who are you going to believe the OMG Obama media or your own lying eyes?

White House feeding the morning media






30 posted on 04/28/2014 11:32:37 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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