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“British Tea Party” UKIP could beat out the Conservatives, Labour, and the Lib Dems in EU elections
Townhall.com ^ | April 28, 2014 | Nick Sorrentino

Posted on 04/28/2014 7:32:26 AM PDT by Kaslin

Though there are important differences in the the flavors of UKIP and the Tea Party in the US, both groups represent a pro market, pro entrepreneur, deeply middle class, anti centralized government, and anti-establishment perspective. Both represent a reemergence of classical liberalism (with exceptions on both sides) on a large scale.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: cronycapitalism; neilfarage; nicksorrentino; ukip

1 posted on 04/28/2014 7:32:26 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Nigel Farage is the greatest leader and speaker the people of Britain have seen since Thatcher.


2 posted on 04/28/2014 7:33:49 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: Kaslin

The British are Finally saying”Enough”!!Does that give anybody any ideas on this side of”The Pond”??


3 posted on 04/28/2014 7:42:34 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: bandleader

How about co-opting UKIP’s “British jobs for British workers?” American jobs for American workers!! Let’s reduce legal immigration.


4 posted on 04/28/2014 7:45:41 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

That’s the ticket. It’s a natural to bring the union voting machine into the Tea Party and out of the party of corporate crony Rats. But it’s a longshot.


5 posted on 04/28/2014 7:55:24 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: Kaslin

UKIP is an actual party. Immigration is a central concept to UKIP. The UKIP is strongly nationalistic and contends that both legal and illegal immigration have changed British culture. The UKIP wants out of the EU. Smaller government is a secondary concern to UKIP.

The TEA party is a voting block, not a party. It is focused on a smaller government. Immigration is an issue in that illegal aliens are provided with unfunded benefits that cost the taxpayer more money. Nationalism is only an issue if it is in regards to smaller government and less taxes.

The two are not alike at all.


6 posted on 04/28/2014 8:00:06 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Kaslin

I believe a well funded third party could make the Republican Party extinct. The rinos would head to the dems where they belong, and a patriotic party would capture the old GOP and a lot of independents.


7 posted on 04/28/2014 8:14:40 AM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: kidd

Many, especially those on the left and the liberal Media think that the Tea Party is a political party, which as you said is not. They don’t get that there is a big difference between an actual party like UKIP and a voting block or idea like the Tea Party.


8 posted on 04/28/2014 8:16:23 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Defiant
Keep on dreaming. What third party? Do you realize there are dozens of third parties around?
9 posted on 04/28/2014 8:19:52 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

The rinos come out of the woodwork any time someone suggests that. It is true, though. Remember a putz named Perot? He was winning the race when he dropped out. Never fooled me,but he tapped into a desire to be rid of the shackles of the two parties, especially when a rino Bush was in charge of one of the parties. Get enough money for backing and some familiar names to join up (Palin, Cruz, Rush) and it could happen pretty quick. You’d see a groundswell, in fact. It would start with a Presidential run that would align with tea party conservatives. The infrastructure of state and local organizations wouldn’t happen overnight, but over time as people switched.


10 posted on 04/28/2014 8:29:20 AM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: Kaslin
Do you realize there are dozens of third parties around?

True. But until recently there have also been two distinct opposing major parties on the ticket.

Will you still be poo-pooing third parties when your beloved Republican party formally endorses amnesty and a "new improved, conservative version of Obamacare"?

11 posted on 04/28/2014 8:36:06 AM PDT by nitzy
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To: kidd
Immigration is an issue in that illegal aliens are provided with unfunded benefits that cost the taxpayer more money.

Legal immigration costs the taxpayers far more money than illegal aliens. And legal immigrants vote two to one Democrat and favor Big Government to a far greater extent than the native born. The Tea Party should learn from UKIP on the issue of legal immigration that takes American jobs and depresses wages.

12 posted on 04/28/2014 8:40:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

My impression has been the opposite.

First, legal immigrants don’t vote. They have to become citizens to be legal and vote. I’ll assume you meant naturalized citizens.

Second, my experience with naturalized citizens from eastern europe and asia are that they are overwhelmingly conservative, as most have escaped some liberal hell-hole. I would like to see sources of information that support your post.


13 posted on 04/28/2014 9:28:09 AM PDT by kidd
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To: kidd
First, legal immigrants don’t vote. They have to become citizens to be legal and vote. I’ll assume you meant naturalized citizens.

Yes, legal immigrants are provided with green cards and a path to citizenship. Once they have citizenship, they can vote legally.

Second, my experience with naturalized citizens from eastern europe and asia are that they are overwhelmingly conservative, as most have escaped some liberal hell-hole. I would like to see sources of information that support your post.

Immigration's Impact on Republican Political Prospects, 1980 to 2012

I am truly flabbergasted that you don't know this.

14 posted on 04/28/2014 9:41:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kidd
How Mass (Legal) Immigration Dooms a Conservative Republican Party
15 posted on 04/28/2014 9:44:35 AM PDT by kabar
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To: cotton1706

I love the guy. Its just awesome seeing the rise of UKIP.


16 posted on 04/28/2014 9:46:00 AM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: shove_it

There are big opportunities to do that but corporate goons on the GOP side don’t seem interested in the blue collar vote which tends to be more conservative on many issues. The illegal immigration issue should be a big way to win significant chunks of working class/blue collar black and even Hispanic voters as well as larger portions of blue collar whites which of course are still the majority voting block in the US. We have large segments of unemployed and the last thing we need are us citizens of all stripes having to compete more with illegal alien labor which is used to having zero protections/rights in relationship to employment.


17 posted on 04/28/2014 9:53:48 AM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: cotton1706

From what I have seen I would agree. A game changer.


18 posted on 04/28/2014 10:27:39 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: kidd

USA needs Powerful 3rd Party—Need Liberty Party to grow out of Tea Party-—No more 3rd party wasts votes talk—That Mantra doen’t reflect the new Obama America. People supported Nut case Ross Perot because of NAFTA and “read my Lips” Bush—We gots a whole lot more now! The RINO-Republicans caving into the Progressives and MSM. Who really runs the US? The New Your Times Newspaper? CBS NEWS? Saturday Night Live? Jon Stewart?

Liberty Now! “Let Freedom Ring!”


19 posted on 04/28/2014 10:28:48 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Psalm 144

This is my favorite video of his. Echoes of Patrick Henry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gm9q8uabTs


20 posted on 04/28/2014 10:32:31 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: Defiant

I believe a well funded third party could make the Republican Party extinct. The rinos would head to the dems where they belong, and a patriotic party would capture the old GOP and a lot of independents.

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Indeed it could. It is telling that the post Reagan GOP never made an effort to keep the Reagan Democrats on board. Now, they are actively snubbing the conservative base, with Jeb Bush and Boehner as only the most recent examples of an open animosity for two years now.

The GOP will never again permit significant conservative ascent.


21 posted on 04/28/2014 10:36:40 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: cotton1706

Oh yes! That is the first time I ever heard him. An outstanding frontal assault on the rot that is the EU. I say again, he is a game changer. I wish we had a counterpart.


22 posted on 04/28/2014 10:38:56 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Army Air Corps

Bookmark


23 posted on 04/28/2014 11:32:36 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Maelstorm

Yes! The shine of the 0bama Regime is fading fast for the blue collar working class & those who want a job. Conservative candidates should win in primaries vs RINOs and elections vs RATs if they concentrate their campaign on economic and jobs issues.


24 posted on 04/28/2014 12:21:18 PM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: Psalm 144
The GOP will never again permit significant conservative ascent.

The RINO wing of the GOP has forgotten its roots and will die on the vine, thanks to The 0bamanation. That's my fervent hope and prayer.

25 posted on 04/28/2014 12:29:12 PM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: shove_it

The biggest problem conservatives have is the Republican hereditary class which is also very corporatist in nature. They like their special connections. They like getting cheap immigrant labor on which they can make fortunes not just employing those immigrants but also in driving done the wages of those American citizens they employ. They like not having to truly invest in developing onshore resources when they can simply take advantage of individuals educated at a fraction of the cost required in the US in places like the Philippines. Its a matter of the people at the top like it there and while they talk about the “love” involved in amnesty what they really love is keeping their power and what better way to do that than to add more third worlders who have been raised to think and act like serfs?


26 posted on 04/28/2014 3:08:05 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: cotton1706

“Nigel Farage is the greatest leader and speaker the people of Britain have seen since Thatcher.”

Arguably better, but the verdict will be in the results. If Farage can continue to do what he’s doing and not collapse in some way (which seems to happen more than it doesn’t), he likely will accomplish EVEN MORE than Thatcher, a woman I will ALWAYS admire.


27 posted on 04/28/2014 3:33:34 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Psalm 144

I agree. It’s clearly working with UKIP, and it would be far easier here.


28 posted on 04/28/2014 6:05:17 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: cotton1706
One of mine too. Here he is on Islamification: You Tube Link
29 posted on 04/29/2014 2:07:00 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: cotton1706
Nigel Farage is the greatest leader and speaker the people of Britain have seen since Thatcher.

And before that, Enoch Powell.

30 posted on 04/29/2014 2:08:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Defiant

We need a second party, first.


31 posted on 04/29/2014 2:08:59 PM PDT by dfwgator
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