Skip to comments.The Obamacare Question That Has Democrats Terrified
Posted on 04/28/2014 9:09:09 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
With just 191 days until the Nov. 4 midterm elections, nervous Democrats are scrambling to find an effective answer to the Obamacare question they may fear the most: "Where is the $2,500 in health insurance savings President Obama and Democrats promised me?"
Article Link: The Obamacare Question That Has Democrats Terrified (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/27/The-Obamacare-Question-That-Has-Democrats-Terrified)
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It's coming, we just have to raise your taxes by $5,000 first.
From the looks of that picture, I suspect that $2500 is about an inch north of the finger.
The question that the GOP refuses to ask?
I was wondering about the much denied ‘death panels’?
Do Obama’s reassurances continue to reassure?
"Those Democrats leering over my shoulder owe me bigtime.
The healthcare bill insures we get a permanent Democratic majority."
" All except those Tea Party types, swallowed hook, line and sinker my promises that they could:
(1) keep their existing health plans,
(2) keep their own doctors that they like,
(3) keep their 25-year-olds on the family health plan,
(4) never be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition,
(5) sign up instantly on my tech-savvy government Web site,
(6) buy insurance only after becoming seriously ill."
(7) save $2,500 in annual premiums in the bargain....
(8) All without any new taxes."
"Them sonovagun Tea Partiers will rue the day they criticized my wonderful bill."
JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO 2014-2016 VOTERS As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature plan that was ultimately enacted (by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote) into the "Affordable Care Act:
QUOTING OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if youve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All Im going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. Youll still have choice of doctor.
Repeated over and over by every loyal Democrat---- conning Americans into believing they'd also be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.
LOCK-STEPPING DEMOCRAT PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1930-40's ERA EUROPE.
A POLITICAL BLUNDER OF CEAUSESCUIAN PROPORTIONS---PERPETRATED BY LIES, ADVANCED BY FRAUD
HHS Started Individual Obamacare Applications Prior To Deadline, Obtained Personal Info From States
Shark Tank / FR Posted on Friday, April 04, 2014 by M. Thatcher
In the closing days of the open enrollment period for the Affordable Care Act (ACA) , the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) was mailing out letters notifying certain Americans that they had already started a healthcare coverage application on their behalf.
The HHS letter stated that the information they used to begin the application for individual Healthcare was obtain by the state agency in charge of implementing Obamacare.
The next step for the individual would be visit Healthcare.gov and complete the already started application to see if they qualify for Marketplace coverage.
News of the HHS letter was first mentioned by a listener of the popular Daybreak with Drew Steele Show on Fox 92.5, which is out of Fort Myers, Florida.(Excerpt)
Read more at: http://www.shark-tank.com/2014/04/04/hhs-started-individual-obamaca ...
NEED TO KNOW:
(1) which states participated in giving confidential information to HHS, and,
(2) how would state agencies know which of their citizens would want or need a new Obamacare-compliant policy.......without violating that individual's privacy--and without consulting the individual?
(3) for an application to be legally enforced, the individual would have had to sign it.
(4) Who signed the app? Forgery must be considered.
(5) When a third party commits you to a financial transaction, that person is considered your fiduciary....and CANNOT act WRT a payment method or other financial burden that conflicts with your best interests.
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AND THIS: California enrollees went public with the disclosure that in applying for health care on the state exchange, they received completed "voter registration forms" pre-checked Democrat.
There is only one explanation.
It was a lie.
Answer: “So you are actually stupid enough to believe that we would add 30 million people to the healthcare rolls and costs would go down by $2,500? Gawd you are dumb enough to be a Democrat. Don’t forget to vote for me!”
If there was a second party the administrative malfeasance would be prosecuted. IF.
I don’t think dems are terrified at all. They’ll duck and run, the media will cover for them, they’ll avoid debates and town hall meetings etc. No big deal.
Someone is going to have to come up with another name for what’s now called “Obamacare”. Obama will be out of office in 2017, and the term “Obamacare” will give cover to any and all Democrats forever after. By about 2020, the term will start to sound quite stale and desperate — like “Bush’s fault” sounded by 2011. A label that sticks to Democrats for all time is required.
Congress may force Americans to purchase private products, and Scotus can rewrite law on the fly, for the rats studiously avoided the word "tax" in Obamacare.
“I dont think dems are terrified at all. Theyll duck and run, the media will cover for them, theyll avoid debates and town hall meetings etc. No big deal.”
If not for Obamacare, the cost would have been $2,500 higher. You see, health insurance providers were going to increase premiums by 50%, but due to Obamacare, they only went up an average of 25%. It is sort of like jobs created and saved.
The poster named Donzap posted this on the Breitbart thread. Perfectly compliments your data, Liz:
(((Below is from Donzap, at Breitbart.com)))
These are all direct quotes from Obama, Hillary and Senators about ObamaCare...
The Obama on ObamaCare...
Obama, Aug. 15, 2009: I just want to be completely clear about this; I keep on saying this but somehow folks aren’t listening, if you like your health care plan, you keep your health care plan. Nobody is going to force you to leave your health care plan.
The Obama, March 25, 2010: From this day forward, all of the cynics, all the naysayers, they’re going to have to confront the reality of what this reform is and what it isn’t.
The Obama, June 28, 2012: First, if you’re one of the more than 250 million Americans who already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance this law will only make it more secure and more affordable.
The Hillary on ObamaCare
Hillary Clinton, Sept. 17, 2007 You can keep the doctors you know and trust. You keep the insurance you have,” “If you have private insurance you like, nothing changes, you can keep that insurance.” (Broadlawns Medical Center, Des Moines, Iowa).
The Senators on ObamaCare
Sen. Landrieu (D-LA): If you like the insurance that you have, you’ll be able to keep it. (MSNBCs Hardball, 12/16/09)
Sen. Hagan (D-NC): We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it (National Journals Congress Daily, 6/18/09)
Sen. Begich (D-AK): If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that.
Sen. Bennet (D-CO): Start with the basic principle if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them. We will not take that choice away from you.
Sen. Murry (D-WA): Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it.
(Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)
Sen. Harkin (D-IA): One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in. (Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)
Sen. Schumer (D-NY): If you like your insurance, you keep it. (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)
Sen. Durbin (D-IL): This bill before us on the Senate floor makes it clear that if you have an insurance policy that you like, you can keep it. If you like the doctor that you’re currently doing business with, you can continue to use that doctor. (Teleconference, 12/4/09)
Sen. Reid (D-NV):In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it. (Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)
Sen. Baucus (D-MT): That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it.
(Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)
Sen. Levin (D) Mi. April 6, 2012: And it is important to remember that for those who already have health insurance, the law allows you to keep your existing plan.
Sen. Merkley (D) Or. Nov. 11, 2013: If you like your current health insurance, you will be able to keep it. And you will be able to continue seeing your current doctor.
So each one of the above lied to the American people, or were so utterly ignorant they voted for a law (NOTE: EVery damn one of these quoted Senators voted for the ACA) they didn’t understand.
So they’re either liars, stupid, or (may favorite) stupid liars.
Not one should be reelected, if there is any justice in this country, and the voters of their states had any ethics.
Well, I meant to say democratcare, but demon works, too!
Best analysis I have seen.
Or this one, which they can't say: The projected savings don't come until the entire system is under government control, every citizen is under the government's thumb, and the death panels are in full force.
A truly trivial and irrelevant question, compared to the huge increases of premiums and the incredibly huge increases of co-pay and deductible.
No way that the ADA can be fixed or saved.