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Why It Makes Sense For Toyota To Leave California For Texas
Forbes ^ | 04/28/2014 | Dale Buss

Posted on 04/28/2014 11:39:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

For Japanese auto brands, the logic of keeping their U.S. sales and administrative arms in California is breaking down under the outsized penalties of conducting business in the Golden State and the changing dynamics of the North American automotive industry. So Toyota is leaving, according to Automotive News.

And where is Japan’s biggest automaker relocating its sales and marketing operations in America? Why, North Texas, of course. The move MOVE -5.08% to Plano, Texas, will involve most of the 5,000 managers and employees at Toyota’s current Torrance, Calif., headquarters, the magazine said.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry apparently didn’t even have to make a recruiting trip to southern California to get Toyota to do this, although he has helped lure plenty of companies with that gambit over the last several years.

And yet Texas has scored one of the biggest prizes so far in its very focused, state-on-state battle with the administration of Gov. Jerry Brown to get plum companies now headquartered in California to abandon the bluest state for the reddest one.

Clearly, Perry caressed a trump card in the fact that Toyota has enjoyed a deep relationship with Texas through its $2.2-billion truck-assembly complex near San Antonio.

Plus, the fact is that, as Toyota has become a more U.S.-centric company with important assets all over the country, it makes sense for the Japanese market leader to distribute its operations in a new way. Toyota’s 14 North American manufacturing facilities now build 71 percent of the vehicles the company sells in the United States, up from 55 percent in 2008.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: california; plano; texas; torrance; toyota; youaskedforit; yougotit

1 posted on 04/28/2014 11:39:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Not sure I like it. Mark my words. That 5000 corporate office will be bringing along the Ca infection with them.


2 posted on 04/28/2014 11:43:05 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here are some of the reasons why it makes sense to move to Texas:

* In the annual Chief Executive magazine “Best States / Worst States” ranking that surveys CEOs for their opinions, Texas has been holding on to the No. 1 spot for a while; California seems permanently relegated to No. 50.

* Business Taxes in California are too complicated.

* Burdensome regulations and regulators that have managed to stifle the entrepreneurial energy of thousands of companies.

* Cost of living for employees is SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER in Torrance than in Plano, and housing costs are 63 percent lower in Plano.

* If even Hollywood movie studios are souring about producing flicks in California, you know you’re in trouble.


3 posted on 04/28/2014 11:43:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jerry Brown says good riddance.

He don’t need no greedy companies in CA.

He has ‘the people’


4 posted on 04/28/2014 11:48:43 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: SeekAndFind

Why does it makes sense? Oh, I think I know the answer: Toyota Motor Sales de México already has a corporate office in Mexico City.


5 posted on 04/28/2014 11:51:17 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: sickoflibs

Ca. could turn out to be Detroit on Steroids!


6 posted on 04/28/2014 11:52:08 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Not going to last long....Libs are moving in because they ruined their own areas....Worked with several that moved down here for work and complained about how hot is down here...and the word “ya’ll” was irritating...and how the Texas accent sounded “retarded”...and how we were so “bubbafied”...Ugh.


7 posted on 04/28/2014 12:01:05 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be," -Epitap)
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To: SeekAndFind
It's not as easy to deCalifornicate a lot of the folks who are used to California liberalism as it was to delouse a group of refugees back in WWII.

Probably at least twenty percent of the people will be dyed in the wool Califoricators of a mind to "straighten out" any place not like California. If California wasn't so screwed up already those folks would probably look for another job to stay in California but with things as they are, it's possible most of them will move to Texas and whine about how "backwards" it is.

JMHO

8 posted on 04/28/2014 12:01:06 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

The good people of Texas IMO, should make it a point to lose the southern hospitality each and every time a Californicator mouths off and tell them to go to hell/back to California, that they are on YOUR turf now and to shut the hell up until they hit the New Mexico border.

PLEASE! For your own safety. Do NOT let them do to you what they are doing to Arizona.


9 posted on 04/28/2014 12:04:31 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Toyota is not moving to Texas. They are moving to Dallas.

“I Don’t Live in Dallas”
by Jarrod Birmingham”
Well the city’s so big nobody knows where it starts or where it ends
If you’ve got the money you can buy you up a lot of friends
‘Cause they’ll take anybody who drives a nice car
Got a place just for you up in Highland Park
If I don’t ever go there it’ll be all right with me

Chorus
‘Cause I don’t live in Dallas I live in Texas
Where we ain’t got no hockey
And no damn metroplexes
I don’t live in Dallas I live in Texas
And if I don’t ever go there it’ll be alright with me

Now Benny Hinn comes on Sundays everybody’s gonna go sing along
‘Cause they can’t start their football ‘til all wide receivers post bond
You’re a whole buncha yuppies with nothin’ to do
But keep Isuzu in business you all know it’s true
I’d like to sell you to Oklahoma if they could only afford you


10 posted on 04/28/2014 12:07:32 PM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: Don Corleone
Ca. could turn out to be Detroit on Steroids!

I don't know how. According to our most powerful politicians, illegal aliens are the key to economic success.

11 posted on 04/28/2014 12:11:48 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wish Rick would shut up. We don’t need more libs moving here. They have ruined Dallas and Austin and are working on Ft. Worth and other places.


12 posted on 04/28/2014 12:12:43 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Rashputin

>Probably at least twenty percent of the people will be dyed in the wool Califoricators of a mind to “straighten out” any place not like California

baseless speculation. you really have no idea whether or not they are one or the other.


13 posted on 04/28/2014 12:13:03 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: SeekAndFind

An employee making $100k will find..after NO state incomes taxes, and MUCH lower housing costs..it’s like getting a 25% RAISE..


14 posted on 04/28/2014 12:17:13 PM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: DesertRhino

I do agree with you!


15 posted on 04/28/2014 12:18:27 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: DesertRhino

my thoughts exactly.


16 posted on 04/28/2014 12:19:20 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: RitchieAprile
It's a bad habit of a weak and lazy brain muscle to yell "baseless" at anything you disagree with.

I know about what percentage of people who moved to Charlotte from liberal wonderlands as banks relocated had that attitude and see no reason why it would be any different if not worse with people moving from California to any place outside of California.

17 posted on 04/28/2014 12:20:06 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Don Corleone
RE :”Ca. could turn out to be Detroit on Steroids!”

Hispanic version maybe.

They don't appear to be unhappy with what Dems in charge of CA been doing the past few years.

18 posted on 04/28/2014 12:20:53 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: Resolute Conservative

Don’t let them ruin it. They are outnumbered at the polls.

They try here in middle TN also but we just overwhelm them and they have to just sit and whine and when they do we laugh and point.

More than most “run away”.


19 posted on 04/28/2014 12:22:24 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conseravtives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good news for north Texas, more traffic.


20 posted on 04/28/2014 12:22:56 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: Rashputin

I wasn’t yelling. merely pointing out the lack of substantiation.


21 posted on 04/28/2014 12:23:29 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: SeekAndFind

In a nutshell, this is symbiotic of one of the greatest liberties this country has: preservation of states’ rights.

As long as states maintain the rights reserved for them under the Constitution, then a move like this benefits the country. Why? Because a state that becomes an overbearing-stifling state that preys on its most productive citizens, will have those productive companies and individuals leave for better pastures.

In time, the voters of the state seeing their tax base leave will throw out the govt leaders who caused their standard of living to be reduced.
This should always be supported as it improves each state.

Once the feds are the source of all this like taxation, benefits, etc, then people and companies in one state have zero benefit to move to another state to improve themselves. The feds and libs win.

The Confederacy had the founders’s intentions right: The best defense against an onerous central govt is to make it be responsible for as little as possible


22 posted on 04/28/2014 12:31:29 PM PDT by bestintxas (Every time a RINO bites the dust a founding father gets his wings)
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To: Norm Lenhart
In my experience, that's the best way to deal with it.

That can lead to the ever popular whining about "the lack of Southern hospitality I thought the South was famous for" and you have the conversation on the right track.

When the canard about hospitality drools down their chin you simply point out that helping them to understand Southern hospitality is exactly what required you to explain that a guest shouldn't complain about their host should wait until they're no longer enjoying the hospitality of the host to do so. You were just helping them learn the rules of hospitality so they won't make a fool of themself again. A very considerate thing for you to do, no?

Such folks are beyond the gentle, "now don't be ugly" chiding someone who notices a fine crack in a china cup receives. They need to have it pointed out to them that they weren't actually invited, they're just being tolerated.

Regards

23 posted on 04/28/2014 12:33:19 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: RitchieAprile
You've substantiated that you have no substantiation for you're objection. Thank you.
24 posted on 04/28/2014 12:34:16 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

I have no idea what you are trying to say, but that’s ok.


25 posted on 04/28/2014 12:37:11 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Dallas59
and how the Texas accent sounded “retarded”

I'll bet that most native Texans can write in cursive though.

26 posted on 04/28/2014 12:39:13 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. 1 Cor 16: 32)
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To: ken5050

“An employee making $100k will find..after NO state incomes taxes, and MUCH lower housing costs..it’s like getting a 25% RAISE..”

And feel guilty about it.
And want to raise the quality of the local schools.
And want much much more in services, probably being in an IT job where they do not see too many unwashed.
And the next thing you know, they are signing petitions to get increased tax assessments on the ballot.

You’ll see it, mark my words.


27 posted on 04/28/2014 12:48:53 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: RitchieAprile
Thank you for playing.

Every little bit of exercise that weak muscle gets will help you build it into something other than watered down oatmeal.

I do hope you have a lovely day now, ya' hear?

28 posted on 04/28/2014 12:50:09 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s likely that a good number of the Toyota California employees that move to Texas will be able to pay cash for their new Texas home after they sell their overpriced California houses to some suckers staying in the “Golden” state.

Most will be VERY happy after they settle in to their new homes in Texas. I just hope only a small minority will bring their California “progressive” political beliefs with them.

The later other companies are to follow Toyota’s lead on exiting California, the less well off the employees will be (as, gradually, there will be fewer and fewer people wanting to pay astronomical prices for the overpriced California homes).


29 posted on 04/28/2014 12:52:27 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

PLANO, TEXAS (where Toyota is moving) has been ranked by Forbes as America’s SAFEST CITY.

See here:

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/egim45edhe/1-plano-texas/

It says:

The affluent Dallas suburb has a median household income of $79,234, 60% above the national average; a police force made up of college graduates; and a strong community watch program.


30 posted on 04/28/2014 12:55:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: DesertRhino
Not sure I like it. Mark my words. That 5000 corporate office will be bringing along the Ca infection with them.

You got it. 4500 more dem votes.

31 posted on 04/28/2014 12:59:10 PM PDT by Digger
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To: DesertRhino

When Nissan relocated to Tennessee less than half of the employees relocated. The same will be for the Toyota employees.


32 posted on 04/28/2014 1:12:51 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
"The same will be for the Toyota employees."

I hope you're right for the sake of folks in Texas. Too often people who flee places they've helped destroy with lefty politics seem intent on destroying the places they flee to.

33 posted on 04/28/2014 1:26:59 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
Too often people who flee places they've helped destroy with lefty politics seem intent on destroying the places they flee to.

A welcome wagon program for those types should include a request that they not support the kinds of policies that made it necessary for them to flee. The one who vote RAT out of habit might get their eyes opened.

34 posted on 04/28/2014 1:58:03 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

That’s OK. We just want the jobs, not necessarily the people currently in them. ;-)


35 posted on 04/28/2014 2:19:00 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Resolute Conservative

Respectfully, the people employed there actually . . . WORK !
I am sure they will become good Texans. Trust me on this one, thanks :)


36 posted on 04/28/2014 2:44:12 PM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: DesertRhino; RitchieAprile; Rashputin; reddevil; Digger
Not sure I like it. Mark my words. That 5000 corporate office will be bringing along the Ca infection with them.

This might serve as an antidote to your concerns:

TEXAS MORE RED FROM BLUE STATE EXODUS

37 posted on 04/28/2014 2:49:04 PM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants his suicidal worshipers to become suicidal bombers.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now if Boeing had moved their headquarters to Texas...


38 posted on 04/28/2014 3:22:43 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: DesertRhino
That 5000 corporate office will be bringing along the Ca infection with them.

I've never heard of a corporate move where the whole staff pulls up stumps and moves with it. Most of them are mid and lower level administrative people who can find jobs in California. I doubt more than 30 or 40 percent will make the move.

39 posted on 04/28/2014 3:38:25 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: House Atreides; All

Take’em out to the old J.R. Ewing place. Show’em what a Texas slum looks like. There’s room to breathe in Texas and it’s still affordable to the middle class.


40 posted on 04/28/2014 3:42:55 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: jttpwalsh

I don’t question their work, it is what they bring with them as far as political persuasion. The last place I worked was full of under 30’s, foreigners, and yankees that all worked hard, but I could not stand the daily trashing of my country from the foreigners and the constant left wing points of view and ideas on how to change things here to be like where they just fled.


41 posted on 04/29/2014 5:46:30 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Thanks for the reply; I understand your point of view. My experience, here in California, as one of that 40% who produce, so that 60% can stand idle is, that the working folks, here, are sick of it. California is a beautiful place, but the SF-LA voting block has turned common sense on it’s head, and is trashing the place, so to speak. Many of us remain, due to family, or other obligations, but begrudgingly so. Many others wish to get a clean start, somewhere else, in ‘Free America’. My sense is, that the working folks who relocate to Texas will be mostly pleased, and become good Texans. FREEgards !


42 posted on 04/29/2014 6:52:21 AM PDT by jttpwalsh
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