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Arrested for quoting Winston Churchill: (EU)
The Daily Mail ^ | 4-28-14 | Lizzie Parry

Posted on 04/28/2014 12:27:42 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

A candidate in the European elections was arrested on suspicion of racial harrassment after quoting a passage about Islam, written by Winston Churchill, during a campaign speech.

Paul Weston, chairman of the party Liberty GB, made the address on the steps of Winchester Guildhall, in Hampshire on Saturday.

A member of the public took offence at the quote, taken from Churchill's The River War and called police.

The passage from the book, written by the wartime Prime Minister and first published in 1899, focuses on Churchill's observations about Islam while serving during the Anglo-Egyptian reconquest of the Sudan.

Mr Weston told his audience: 'Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

'Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

'No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.'

Police officers arrested Mr Weston, mid-speech, for failing to comply with their request to move on under the powers of a dispersal order made against him.

He was further arrested on suspicion of religious or racial harrassment.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: churchill; eu; freespeech; islam; leftists; speech; winchester
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Arrested for quoting Winston Churchill: European election candidate accused of religious and racial harassment after he repeats wartime prime minister’s words on Islam during campaign speech


1 posted on 04/28/2014 12:27:42 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
was arrested on suspicion of racial harrassment after quoting a passage about Islam

Islam is now a race?

2 posted on 04/28/2014 12:30:34 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This is exactly the kind of thing Winston was talking about.


3 posted on 04/28/2014 12:31:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I wonder if it was this quote:

 photo Muslim_Dogs_zpsceacb1b0.png

Very succinct and accurate description.

4 posted on 04/28/2014 12:31:58 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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To: rjsimmon

It is what we say it is, Comrade.


5 posted on 04/28/2014 12:32:33 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Fairly accurate. No wonder it was considered over the top...


6 posted on 04/28/2014 12:34:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Aevery_Freeman
This is the passage in question. I don't know if he read the whole thing:
'How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!,' wrote Churchill.

'Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

'The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

'A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

'The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

'Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

'No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.'


7 posted on 04/28/2014 12:36:46 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SpinnerWebb
It is what we say it is, Comrade.

How true that statement. V for Vendetta has come to jolly old England.


8 posted on 04/28/2014 12:39:17 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

A slightly more complete version:

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”


9 posted on 04/28/2014 12:43:14 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: DoughtyOne

The River War is a good book, as it was written mostly on-site or from first-hand knowledge, as opposed to most crap in print about a political situation or war. Churchill was there and wasn’t censored as far as I know. The fact that I got that book and The History of the English Peoples volumes for less than shipping costs with a “DESTROY” stamp on the inside of each cover tells you all you need to know about the educational situation these days.


10 posted on 04/28/2014 12:46:50 PM PDT by gr8eman (There's no "R" in Warshington!)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

To be fair, your quote is not a quote, it’s a paraphrase, and so should not have quotation marks.

Actual quote: “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.”

IOW, he was saying that Islam is capable of inducing in some of its followers a fanatical frenzy, “which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog,.”

Winnie did NOT say that Islam itself is this dangerous, or that it always induces this condition, or that the same condition cannot also be induced by other factors.

His description is more balanced than that, and is not entirely unfavorable to Islam and Muslims.


11 posted on 04/28/2014 12:47:52 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: afraidfortherepublic

How far the Great people of Great Britain have fallen....

It makes one weep.


12 posted on 04/28/2014 12:49:11 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Arrested... For SPEAKING.

F U GBR.

Churchill must be puking in his grave at what a bunch of worthless PC turds the British have become. Why don't the British just provide swords and chopping blocks to the mooselimbs, and lay their necks down for beheading...

13 posted on 04/28/2014 12:50:07 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: gr8eman

For the information of those who are interested in reading this book, they should be aware that there are several versions out there. The later versions are greatly revised, abridged by up to 1/3, and in many cases the most interesting of his opinions about individuals and policies have been cut out, apparently for political reasons.

You want the 1899 two-volume version.


14 posted on 04/28/2014 12:51:02 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: gr8eman

Thanks for the mention. Yes, it does seem to tell a story doesn’t it, the cost of the books and the stamp.

Churchill was an interesting man. Drinking to excess, the guy couldn’t get elected today. And yet, look at the rallying point he was.

His books probably provide too much information on manhood, morals, the right thing to do..., the evils of inferior political movements...


15 posted on 04/28/2014 12:52:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: afraidfortherepublic

bkmk


16 posted on 04/28/2014 12:55:27 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Sicon

Before you curse the UK for falling into the PC trap that lefties and muhamedans built, perhaps you might also take a look within your own 50 (or is it 57?) states. As I recall, of all the major western countries, only one has a muhamedan as head of state.


17 posted on 04/28/2014 1:04:03 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: DoughtyOne

” Drinking to excess, the guy couldn’t get elected today.”

Worse than that, he smoked! Tobacco products!!

The Cubans even named a cigar after him.


18 posted on 04/28/2014 1:05:15 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: afraidfortherepublic
'Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. 'Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. 'No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.'

Truth is the new hate speech.

19 posted on 04/28/2014 1:09:34 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Sicon
Churchill must be puking in his grave at what a bunch of worthless PC turds the British have become.

Churchill is turning in his grave being quoted by Paul Weston. Weston was drummed out of UKIP. His views are a strange amalgam of racial purity, support for homosexual marriage and libertarianism. May he be ignored.

20 posted on 04/28/2014 1:13:57 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Note to self...never quote Reagan in the presence of even a single Rat Party sympathizer.
21 posted on 04/28/2014 1:16:17 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

LOL, what an absurd world we live in.

Sadly, you’re making too much sense on this with regard to today’s society.


22 posted on 04/28/2014 1:22:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: rjsimmon

Remember how V won. That is the rub.


23 posted on 04/28/2014 1:25:54 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Chickensoup
Remember how V won. That is the rub.

Twas a shame to see that beautiful parliament building destroyed but the blast sure was purdy!

24 posted on 04/28/2014 1:41:50 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: rjsimmon

but that was not how he won.


25 posted on 04/28/2014 1:48:34 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

See tagline.


26 posted on 04/28/2014 1:50:56 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a Child Rapist and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: Chickensoup
but that was not how he won.

By killing Creedy? Or are you going deeper into the ideology?

The film is like onions. They have layers...

But then, not everybody likes onions...they do, however, like parfaits!

27 posted on 04/28/2014 1:54:48 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: gr8eman
The River War.......... The fact that I got that book and The History of the English Peoples volumes for less than shipping costs with a "DESTROY" stamp on the inside of each cover tells you all you need to know about the educational situation these days.

Unbelievable!!

28 posted on 04/28/2014 3:01:52 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The rest of the paragraph...

It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
Winston Churchill, The River War

29 posted on 04/28/2014 6:58:26 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Sherman Logan
The post was made in jest.

Thank you for the full quote which is far more damning than my cheap barb.

If you wish to determine the true oppressed minority, see who is not free to criticize.

30 posted on 04/29/2014 4:28:04 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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To: Kennard
His views are a strange amalgam of racial purity, support for homosexual marriage and libertarianism.

I'm afraid I don't see anything necessarily incongruous about this combination of view.

Why can't someone believe in racialism and simultaneously in libertarianism?

31 posted on 04/29/2014 5:17:03 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: publius911
It has already spread throughout Central Africa

It should be pointed out that Christianity is spreading faster in Africa at the moment than Islam.

32 posted on 04/29/2014 5:18:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Thanks for that. I had figured there had to be some editing as Churchill’s writing could be super-detailed which some editors find cumbersome. Considering Churchill was promptly voted out after the war and the present state of England, I am sure most folks over there didn’t want anything to do with the truth in east Africa back in the day let alone Winnie’s opinion!!


33 posted on 04/29/2014 5:49:35 AM PDT by gr8eman (There's no "R" in Warshington!)
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To: gr8eman
In The River War WC said some very harsh things about Kitchener, who was in charge of the British forces in Sudan, and about the British policy there. In particular he poked large holes in the British propaganda claim that they were "rescuing" the poor Sudanese from the oppression of the khalifa. Quite similar to the claim that Iraqis would welcom us when we invaded, though probably with even less justification. Pointing this out wasn't popular among the British military and political elite.

During WWII WC was the head of the Navy and Kitchener was the head of the Army. His previous criticisms obviously created some stresses. :)

34 posted on 04/29/2014 6:23:52 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: afraidfortherepublic

As pointless and ridiculous as this arrest is, he’s been arrested for refusing to move on when asked. Rather than the quote, but the latter makes a better headline.


35 posted on 04/29/2014 1:15:03 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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