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More Rand Paul: I wholeheartedly endorse Susan Collins for reelection in Maine
Hotair ^ | 04/28/2014 | AllahPundit

Posted on 04/28/2014 5:17:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Via Dan Riehl, people are going nuts over this in the Headlines thread but I don’t know why. He’s not endorsing her over some tea-party primary opponent. She has no primary opponent. He’s endorsing her over the Democrat in the race, Shenna Bellows (whose civil-libertarian cred from working at the ACLU evidently gave Paul no pause).

Even Jim DeMint, who once said he’d rather have 30 principled conservatives in the Senate than a 60-seat majority of RINOs, saw fit to endorse Scott Brown on the eve of his big special election upset in 2010. If Rand can hold an extra Senate seat for the GOP in 2014 by nudging Maine tea partiers to pull the lever for Collins, what’s the harm?

Q: You’re going to join U.S. Sen. Susan Collins for a state party fundraiser today. She’s defended National Security Agency spying programs you oppose, and she’s also running against a Democrat, Shenna Bellows, who comes pretty close to sharing your views on that and other privacy issues. Do you support her, despite disagreement on many of those issues?

A: I wholeheartedly endorse Senator Collins for re-election. I think she’s doing a great job for Maine and for the country. … I don’t really know, exactly, what her position is on the NSA; you’d have to ask her about that.

I just know my position, but I think we’re a big political party. There’s room for not-entire agreement on every issue.

So why are grassroots righties annoyed? Here’s a representative comment from Headlines:

Well, since Collins is running unopposed on the Republican side, it’s logical for Paul to support her over her democrat opponent. However, this is less about “GOP unity” than it is about Rand Paul being desperate to publicly secure his position within the GOP establishment ranks – Republicans would have supported Collins without Rand Paul’s endorsement, so, it’s all pretty meaningless as far as the Maine election goes.

Rand Paul wants to make that everyone knows that he has shifted from the conservative side, to the establishment side – and his ‘wholehearted’ support for Collins is just one more box checked.

Yeah, the “wholehearted” Collins endorsement is interesting mainly as a temperature check on how Paul’s effort to mainstream-ize himself before 2016 is going. Nearly every GOP candidate has a problem with either the establishment or with grassroots conservatives. (The only major contender I can think of who really doesn’t is Scott Walker.) Paul’s problem, needless to say, is with the establishment, who think he’s too dovish, too much like dad, and just too anti-status quo to be a safe pick, so he’s been at pains lately to try to solve it. At some point, between endorsing Mitch McConnell and shifting to a hawkish posture on Russia and running away from Cliven Bundy and making status-quo noises on abortion and ObamaCare, he risks pandering a bit too much to the donor class and thereby irritating his base of righties and libertarians. Backing Collins so effusively when he could have demurred with a simple “I always support Republicans over Democrats” might have been the last straw, definitive proof that he’s “over-correcting.” Bad enough that he’d back McConnell, tea-party enemy number one for the moment, over a grassroots favorite, but to cheer on someone who voted for the stimulus? C’mon.

The risk here isn’t that righties won’t forgive him. He’s already hard at work on a remedial pander, floating a bill to cut foreign aid to the Palestinians unless they recognize Israel’s right to exist. The risk is that he’s putting himself at a disadvantage against Cruz in the battle for tea-party hearts and minds while not reaping any concomitant benefits among the establishmentarians he’s trying to impress. Paul doesn’t expect to win their votes; all he wants is for them to see him as an acceptable nominee, sufficiently status-quo that they won’t unite to destroy him if he pulls an upset in Iowa or New Hampshire. He even met with Romney’s donor network recently, the creme de la creme of the GOP donor class, to make nice. How’s it going so far? You tell me:

The darkest secret in the big money world of the Republican coastal elite is that the most palatable alternative to a nominee such as Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas or Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky would be Clinton, a familiar face on Wall Street following her tenure as a New York senator with relatively moderate views on taxation and financial regulation.

“If it turns out to be Jeb versus Hillary we would love that and either outcome would be fine,” one top Republican-leaning Wall Street lawyer said over lunch in midtown Manhattan last week. “We could live with either one. Jeb versus Joe Biden would also be fine. It’s Rand Paul or Ted Cruz versus someone like Elizabeth Warren that would be everybody’s worst nightmare.”…

Ted Cruz, whose wife works at Goldman Sachs, is viewed negatively by many in the industry for his support of last year’s government shutdown and scorched earth approach to political battle. Cruz fired up an activist gathering in New Hampshire earlier this month with the kind of provocative populist message that makes bankers very nervous. “The rich and powerful, those who walk the corridors of power, are getting fat and happy,” Cruz thundered. At the same event, Paul argued that the GOP “cannot be the party of fat cats, rich people and Wall Street.”

As a wise man recently said, the first duty of establishmentarians is to the establishment, meaning that stopping Paul (or Cruz) will almost certainly take precedence for rich Republicans in 2016 over stopping Hillary. I guess, in theory, with enough pandering Rand could convince them that he’s marginally better than her, but how much pandering could he realistically do before convincing his grassroots fans that he’s sold out and would be as disappointing to righties as president as Obama was to hardcore lefties? Maybe there’s no way out of this bind.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; brucepoliquin; kevinraye; maine; paultards; randpaul; randpaulsoros; senate; susancollins
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1 posted on 04/28/2014 5:17:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

FURP!!


2 posted on 04/28/2014 5:18:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I meant I DON’T endorse suzie collins. Yeah, that’s what I meant.


3 posted on 04/28/2014 5:21:01 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Left will stop at nothing to derail an anti-big government candidate. I hope the Right doesn’t help them.


4 posted on 04/28/2014 5:21:24 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: SeekAndFind

The GOPe would have a problem with Reagan.


5 posted on 04/28/2014 5:24:57 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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6 posted on 04/28/2014 5:24:59 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who needs Marxist/Communist Dimocraps when you have Marxist/Communist Republicans? The two parties might as well merge. The end of America keeps marching on.


7 posted on 04/28/2014 5:27:01 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: PapaNew

Rand Paul is not that candidate


8 posted on 04/28/2014 5:27:47 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Paul is an idiot if he thinks he can ingratiate himself with the GOP Establishment. They’ll never trust him.


9 posted on 04/28/2014 5:30:29 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: GeronL

I’m not convinced he’s not. So far from what I’ve seen, he’s been the most vocal about stopping big government.


10 posted on 04/28/2014 5:31:11 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Actually it was the Paul’s who had a problem with Reagan.


11 posted on 04/28/2014 5:33:23 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: SeekAndFind

Support and power over principle. I’ve never liked the “Paulista” foreign policy and now I’m looking at hypocrisy.


12 posted on 04/28/2014 5:34:49 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: SeekAndFind
Doesn't matter that she has no primary opponent.

Collins is actively engaged in spreading marxism in the USA and is working hand in hand with card carrying communists to promote their agenda.

Paul could have just kept silent, but no, he has to endorse her?

More proof he isn't playing with a full deck.

13 posted on 04/28/2014 5:37:12 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: PapaNew
Unfortunately some here have gone full leftard in their behavior and will repeatedly post the same crap again and again and again while hoping we forget the stuff they post once. I mostly just ignore it at this point.

Ted Cruz endorses John Cornyn

Personally I wish all elected people would refrain from endorsing anyone at any time. I prefer Ted Cruz but I haven't seen enough to know if he's running and will vote for Paul over any of the establishment democrats from either side of the aisle.
14 posted on 04/28/2014 5:38:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
So far, I'm rooting for Rand, but here's how I feel no matter who is up there:

It’s nice to elect the right people, but that’s not the way you solve things. They way you solve things is by making it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right things” Milton Friedman, 1975.

15 posted on 04/28/2014 5:41:56 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Rome2000

I agree, this is very discouraging.


16 posted on 04/28/2014 5:43:01 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (100% pure organic, free-range conservative)
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To: SeekAndFind

Without an R behind their name we will never take the Senate or even hold the House. Nothing is perfect.


17 posted on 04/28/2014 5:44:57 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s only the one ugly chick left in the room.

What else was he gonna do?

It’s closing time and sometimes you just go with it.


18 posted on 04/28/2014 5:45:24 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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19 posted on 04/28/2014 5:46:04 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

And they did. The establishment hated him.


20 posted on 04/28/2014 5:48:57 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: PapaNew

I don’t like everything Paul says or does but I don’t think he would simply walk over congress the way Obama has and any number of the progressive republicans would do.

I prefer Cruz but would accept Paul and don’t see anyone on the horizon who looks like they might be worth voting for if they run.


21 posted on 04/28/2014 5:51:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They DID!


22 posted on 04/28/2014 5:53:34 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: DrewsMum

Yep. The GOPe would rather lose to a Rat than win with a conservative.


23 posted on 04/28/2014 5:54:54 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: PapaNew

A liberal who just doesn’t want to pay high taxes needs to be gotten rid of.
The enemy within before the enemy without.

And he can take all his dad’s paultards with him.

Securing the borders first and keeping Obamacare are not negotiables.

There is no alliance here.


24 posted on 04/28/2014 6:02:55 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Idiot
25 posted on 04/28/2014 6:14:02 PM PDT by tomkat (3% +1)
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To: SeekAndFind
This blog post from the “AllahPundit” has already been posted here multiple times.

We can safely conclude that Rand Paul is not popular among muslims.

26 posted on 04/28/2014 6:14:58 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Rome2000

“Paul could have just kept silent”

Cowards stay silent.

The choice is between Collins and a commie rat.

Those who are siding with the commie rat should have the balls to say it.


27 posted on 04/28/2014 6:21:04 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Don’t be silly, he could have just stayed away from Susan Collins.

Rand Paul is telling us who he is.


28 posted on 04/28/2014 6:37:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: cripplecreek

What does the Texas Senator endorsing the other Texas senator, after the primary, have to do with Rand Paul seeking out Susan Collins?


29 posted on 04/28/2014 6:41:58 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: PapaNew
he’s been the most vocal about stopping big government.

I've been hearing big government social liberalism.

30 posted on 04/28/2014 6:43:57 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Jim Robinson

You need to use a hammer and chisel to engrave (in their heads) that this is not a Libertarian website... They just can’t stop pushing for him no matter what proof is thrown at them (that he is a Libertopian/NOT Conservative).


31 posted on 04/28/2014 6:45:00 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: ansel12

LOL

But that’s different.


32 posted on 04/28/2014 6:47:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind
WELL, THAT'S ENOUGH RAND PAUL FOR TODAY (or ever)

33 posted on 04/28/2014 7:18:59 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The choice is between two rats of a similar stench.

Apparently, Paul “wholeheartedly” endorses this infestation (on the Southern border too.)


34 posted on 04/28/2014 7:21:22 PM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Yep. The GOPe would rather lose to a Rat than win with a conservative.

Yup. You got the nail that time bud!

Isn't that what happened in VA recently?

35 posted on 04/28/2014 7:46:18 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (An army of deer led by a lion is more to be feared than an army of lions, led by a deer.)
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To: MrEdd

Either this unconstitutional $4 trillion government is cut by at least 80% (=$800 billion, still too big but it’s a start) or say bye-bye to America. If the Right doesn’t unite against whoever is best focused on this one issue, America is toast.


36 posted on 04/28/2014 8:23:41 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: SeekAndFind

Well Rand your brand of libertarianism is uninteresting to me. I stand with Ted


37 posted on 04/28/2014 8:26:29 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: PapaNew

Rand is NOT a conservative


38 posted on 04/28/2014 8:26:52 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: PapaNew

You apparently haven’t been reading or hearing his most recent stuff

He is a LIBERTARIAN.... he cares not a wit for conservatives


39 posted on 04/28/2014 8:28:13 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

If he’s seriously for cutting the $4 trillion government which threatens our lives, freedoms, and future, I don’t care whether he’s Donald Duck.


40 posted on 04/28/2014 8:30:28 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

You had better care....You act as if there is no other possibility


41 posted on 04/28/2014 8:34:34 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: PapaNew

The debt is at the very highest a tertiary issue.
Never under any circumstances higher.
The currency has collapsed before, and it will again.
Truly educated people are aware of that.


42 posted on 04/28/2014 8:46:48 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Nifster

I care about taking out this $4 trillion government. If YOU don’t care about that as by far the most critical political issue of the day, and if there are enough on the Right like you, then there WILL be no other possibility.


43 posted on 04/28/2014 8:49:27 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: MrEdd

Focus your attention on cutting the multi-tillion dollar government. Government spending is the killer. Cut that and the deficit problem will also be dissipated. If you only focus on the deficit, you allow the possibility of government staying way too big and instead raising taxes which would be an economic catastrophe.


44 posted on 04/28/2014 8:53:33 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

Dead wrong.

Illegals kill people every week
No compromise.

Obamacare is killing people as we speak by reducing access to doctors and medications. No compromise.

Rand Paul is past his due date.

He is a non starter.

You can set a myopic agenda for yourself, but it isn’t going to fly with too many people here. Certainly not a one issue strategy focusing on a lessor issue.


45 posted on 04/28/2014 8:59:42 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Or Christians.
Or anyone not focused on drugs.


46 posted on 04/28/2014 9:01:37 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

There’s no political issue today greater than the coup d’état of America by a massively unconstitutional government. Too bad you don’t get it.


47 posted on 04/28/2014 9:06:27 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: MrEdd

;^)


48 posted on 04/28/2014 9:08:32 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Strike four!


49 posted on 04/28/2014 10:36:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: SeekAndFind

DC has poison juices!


50 posted on 04/29/2014 12:12:05 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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