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OK to sell widow’s home over $6 bill, judge rules
Associated Press ^ | Apr 28, 2014 5:51 PM EDT

Posted on 04/28/2014 5:32:19 PM PDT by Olog-hai

A widow was given ample notice before her $280,000 house was sold at a tax auction three years ago over $6.30 in unpaid interest, a Pennsylvania judge has ruled.

The decision last week turned down Eileen Battisti’s request to reverse the September 2011 sale of her home outside Aliquippa in western Pennsylvania.

“I paid everything, and didn’t know about the $6.30,” Battisti said. “For the house to be sold just because of $6.30 is crazy.” …

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: aliquippa; eileenbattisti; evictingtheelederly; houseflippers; pennsylvania; propertyspeculators; robberbarons
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Back to the days of devouring widows’ houses, I see.
1 posted on 04/28/2014 5:32:19 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

There is hardly a government in the nation that wouldn’t do the same.


2 posted on 04/28/2014 5:33:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Olog-hai

Sent letter first class, not returned, sufficient notice for something of this gravity.

Uh, huh.


3 posted on 04/28/2014 5:34:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I am curious, was this the same home in which she was LIVING?

If it was a second home, it might be easier to get things confused.


4 posted on 04/28/2014 5:36:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Olog-hai

Since Obama’s Auntie went to the big Hut in the sky, I guess they can give this poor woman her old Apartment.


5 posted on 04/28/2014 5:37:08 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: Olog-hai

couldn’t they simply just take it out of her bank account, the $6 or some other asset. I just feel that someone in power want the land/asset she occupy for cheap and trying to force her out


6 posted on 04/28/2014 5:37:45 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Blood of Tyrants

And they will continue as long as the men in the family simply do nothing.


7 posted on 04/28/2014 5:38:02 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: Olog-hai

How about a little commonsense, if not justice?


8 posted on 04/28/2014 5:38:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Olog-hai

So, which one of the Judge’s friends bought the house?


9 posted on 04/28/2014 5:41:04 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Olog-hai

While the government office needs to be excoriated - at the least - over pushing the issue to seizure, does the judge in fact have room to rule otherwise without “making stuff up”?


10 posted on 04/28/2014 5:41:18 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Olog-hai

Sounds like they need to change the law to have a minimum amount, say $1,000 balance, that is owed for them to seize the property.


11 posted on 04/28/2014 5:42:07 PM PDT by Hugin
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12 posted on 04/28/2014 5:42:31 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Olog-hai

May the judge and the plaintiff with the lawyer soon stand before the perfect judge to see how justice is really done.


13 posted on 04/28/2014 5:44:12 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Olog-hai
Rules are there for a reason...but six dollars? Sixty thousand...absolutely.Six thousand...yes.Six hundred...maybe.Six dollars....disgraceful.
14 posted on 04/28/2014 5:45:43 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Hugin

Something along the lines.

...there were likely many steps where the local government made very bad decisions, any one of which could have stopped this travesty.


15 posted on 04/28/2014 5:46:49 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Olog-hai

this is why government should not be involved in healthcare, education, or charity. it’s inherently not designed to be. this exemplifies why. idiotic zero tolerance exemplifies why.


16 posted on 04/28/2014 5:48:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

This is also an example of why government needs to be reduced to the size it was intended. And, why the judiciary needs renewal.


17 posted on 04/28/2014 5:52:22 PM PDT by Rodentking (There is no God but Yahweh and Moses is his prophet - http://www.airpower.blogspot.com/)
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To: Rodentking

renewal and always removal capability of one or more ways.


18 posted on 04/28/2014 5:53:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Olog-hai

If her home’s valuation for taxes was $280,000, but it sold for $116,000 she was obviously paying too much in taxes.

I think she’s 53. In Texas when you turn 65 they won’t boot you out of your home for failing to pay property taxes. They will wait until you die, then the lien agains your property is acted upon.

Does PA have a law for those over 65 like Texas does?


19 posted on 04/28/2014 5:53:56 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: Olog-hai

So somebody bought a $280K house for $116K from an old lady’s estate, basically cheating her. It says a lot that nobody in the building where this originated reached into their pocket and handed over seven bucks to clear the matter up.


20 posted on 04/28/2014 5:58:56 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: lepton

In a courthouse full of lawyers who make $100+ dollars per hour, no one considered taking $6 from their wallet to make this problem go away?


21 posted on 04/28/2014 6:00:22 PM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: sockmonkey

You’re talking about Pennsylvania. That should explain a lot.

Hope lightning strikes the house after she moves out.

Burn Baby Burn!

Some politicians, attorneys and judges are just plain shitheads.


22 posted on 04/28/2014 6:04:07 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: CaptainMorgantown
In a courthouse full of lawyers who make $100+ dollars per hour, no one considered taking $6 from their wallet to make this problem go away?

Well, it was a courtroom full of lawyers. Did you expect better?

23 posted on 04/28/2014 6:04:46 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: MSF BU
So somebody bought a $280K house for $116K from an old lady’s estate, basically cheating her. It says a lot that nobody in the building where this originated reached into their pocket and handed over seven bucks to clear the matter up.

I know of a county Trustee who used to do just that. Elderly farmers etc came in a few dollars short and he said don't worry about it and put the money in. Now there are corrupt hawks just waiting to grab an "opportunity" as they like to call it.

24 posted on 04/28/2014 6:07:25 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Jim Robinson

A little true story about payments. I dropped dead of cardiac arrest on Aug. 11, 2009. Was revived but in a coma for almost a week. Awoke in pretty good condition but not able to read much for a good while.

Got a call at home a few weeks later from my Mortgage Company asking me why I hadn’t paid the month’s loan.

Told him that I had died and was in recovery. He didn’t seem to understand that I was in no condition to deal with it. When he asked if I was going to send the payment in immediately, I politely told him to go fuck himself and that I would send it in when I was physically able. And that I was going to talk to his superior and tell them what an asshole he was.

Didn’t get another phone call. Did send in the check a little later with an explanation. No problems after that.


25 posted on 04/28/2014 6:08:32 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: CaptainMorgantown

“In a courthouse full of lawyers who make $100+ dollars per hour, no one considered taking $6 from their wallet to make this problem go away?”
*********************************************************************

It is likely that one of those lawyers and/or a crony of the judge or one of those lawyers was the person who stole the widow’s $260,000 house for $166,000.

Shakespeare was right; first get rid of the lawyers.


26 posted on 04/28/2014 6:11:38 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Olog-hai

If I were the judge I would have pulled 7 bucks out of my pocket and said “case closed” You can have your house back Ma’am.


27 posted on 04/28/2014 6:15:09 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Gay State Conservative

Just wow! 6 lousy bucks! This stinks to high heaven!

I don’t care how long it was that she didn’t pay $6. And first class mail only? Not something more official than that? How about they hand her the notice in person, like you would get with an arrest warrant?

Common sense is sorely lacking, and we are screwed because of it.


28 posted on 04/28/2014 6:21:36 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace

In person? You know that you are talking about government employee. You want them to get off their fat butts and do something, are you crazy. Whoever runs this department should be fired for being so stupid that they allowed this to ever happen.


29 posted on 04/28/2014 6:34:51 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: HiTech RedNeck
A few months back after reading one of these type of stories I decided to play devil's advocate and find out what MY county required for notification.

Let me tell you something: It would serve everyone here in their best interest with property rights to learn the lien process in their county.

Some of you may have no idea. Mine is below (redacted for the sake of public comment):

Notice of lien may be issued by the Tax Administrator or his or her deputy whenever the operator is in default in the payment of said tax, interest and penalty and shall be recorded with XXXXXX County and a copy sent to the delinquent operator. The personal property subject to such lien seized by any deputy or employee of the Tax Administrator may be sold by the Department seizing the same at public auction after 10 days notice which shall mean one publication in a newspaper of general circulation published within the County.
That's ALL that the Code says about property tax lien notifications in MY county.

So, y'all tell me...without knowing the code in the subject County, let alone your own County, is it fair to be judgmental against these folks???

30 posted on 04/28/2014 6:48:08 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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I hope lightening strikes the judge.

There is a reckoning coming...


31 posted on 04/28/2014 6:49:58 PM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: Olog-hai

One more pertinent thing about that county code I posted:

My mailman is dyslexic; I get my neighbor’s mail with regularity.

However, I know for a fact that some mail never gets to me and said neighbor NEVER brings me mail.

I don’t trust my County; neither should you.


32 posted on 04/28/2014 6:53:18 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Jim Robinson

How about a little commonsense, if not justice?

Call Guido, para la familia......


33 posted on 04/28/2014 6:53:56 PM PDT by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Texas had to pass a law in the past few years because home owner’s associations had the right to foreclose for unpaid dues, and were doing so for a few hundred dollars. In some cases, the letters were addressed to dead spouses and assumed to be meeting notices or “please come to the block party” and ignored until elderly women were kicked out of their homes for $300-$600 in unpaid dues.


34 posted on 04/28/2014 6:54:51 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Olog-hai
If they absolutely have to drive in a debt, why not take a few belongings to cover the value. Why the whole house?

35 posted on 04/28/2014 7:07:58 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Olog-hai

They do that here too,

I always pay mine.


36 posted on 04/28/2014 7:39:00 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Battisti, who still lives in the house, said Monday that she plans to appeal to Commonwealth Court”


37 posted on 04/28/2014 7:43:22 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Gay State Conservative

IRS agents storm California car wash — to collect 4 cents

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/03/13/90329/irs-agents-storm-sacramento-car.html#storylink=cpy


38 posted on 04/28/2014 7:45:30 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Olog-hai

Foreclosure 101 in Texas is that IF you buy a house at foreclosure your purchase is not final for 30 days so that the person foreclosed on can have time to “redeem” the home through whatever means that may become possible him/her.

I would say too that ANYBODY at a Texas Foreclosure Sale would GIVE this woman $6.30. Something is not right about this story.


39 posted on 04/28/2014 7:48:23 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Olog-hai

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


As I posted earlier, what happened to her 8th amendment protection against excessive, cruel or unusual punishment?

Seizing a quarter million dollar home over a six dollar debt seems to be very excessive punishment to me.

-PJ

40 posted on 04/28/2014 7:49:58 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Rules are there for a reason

Ya mean like our rules and laws regarding our borders and sovereignty which have been ignored on dedicated on by millions? How about those bankers BTW?

41 posted on 04/28/2014 8:03:17 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Rules are there for a reason

Ya mean like our rules and laws regarding our borders and sovereignty which have been ignored on defecated on by millions?

How about those bankers BTW?

42 posted on 04/28/2014 8:04:00 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Olog-hai

Cheating widows and orphans is a sin that cries out to Heaven for vengeance.

I wouldn’t want to have been involved with this case.


43 posted on 04/28/2014 8:11:23 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: MSF BU

“It says a lot that nobody in the building where this originated reached into their pocket and handed over seven bucks to clear the matter up.”

That’s exactly what I thought. NO ONE in the assessor’s office or the prosecutor’s office, no one anywhere along the line was willing to cough up $6 ??? Guess that’s a place I wouldn’t want to live. PA is utterly corrupt in any case.


44 posted on 04/28/2014 8:11:27 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

What’s interesting is banks have collected millions on most modest homes which are 50 or so years old and have changed owners 4 times or more. The amount of interest paid on those loans is just staggering. Then add in property taxes. Homes are money consuming machines.


45 posted on 04/28/2014 8:27:58 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: tbw2

How could a homeowners association foreclose on a house? Did the people buy the house from the HA?


46 posted on 04/28/2014 8:52:18 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Olog-hai
It cost the government more than 6 dollars to get the 6 dollars.

The government needs to eat its own cooking.

47 posted on 04/28/2014 9:57:54 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Olog-hai

Hahahahaha... People still believe in property right... Thats only if youre an illegal squatter.. Hahaha


48 posted on 04/29/2014 12:08:41 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: logi_cal869

A general cynicism about the modern state of government could be excused.


49 posted on 04/29/2014 1:23:18 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: EDINVA

Or someone pay this widow a visit.

Can’t you feel the ice?


50 posted on 04/29/2014 1:25:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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