Skip to comments.Ownership of Federal Land: Answers Suggested by the Bundy Standoff (Eminent Constitutional Scholar)
Posted on 04/29/2014 6:00:39 AM PDT by xzins
The Bundy stand-off in Nevada has induced several people to ask me about the extent to which the federal government can own land, at least under the Constitutions intended meaning. As it happens, in 2005 I studied the issue in depth, and published the following article: Federal Land Retention and the Constitutions Property Clause: The Original Understanding, 76 U. Colo. L. Rev. 327 (2005).
In a nutshell, heres what I found:
(1) Most commentators on the issue have staked out one of two polar positions. One position, which is current U.S. Supreme Court doctrine, is that the federal government may acquire and own any land it wishes for any governmental purpose, not just for its enumerated powers. The other polar position is that the federal government may own land only for the purposes enumerated in the Enclave Clause (the national capital and Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings) and that the equal footing doctrine requires that all other federal land within a prospective state be handed over the state government upon statehood.
(2) In fact, both polar positions are falseand very clearly so. This shines through when you study the Constitutions text, meaning, and background. By background, I mean its drafting history, the ratification debates, 18th century law, and so forth. However the constitutional text alone should be sufficient to cast both polar claims into doubt. The text of the Constitution grants the federal government no plenary power to hold land, only to dispose. A general power to hold is just not in there. The second polar position is also contradicted by the text: The equal footing doctrine is not there either. (It was a feature of certain pre-constitutional documents, such as the Northwest Ordinance.)
(3) The Constitution grants the federal government authority to acquire real estate and other property to carry out any enumerated purpose, either in the exercise of a core power (such as maintain a Navy) or through the implied powers memorialized in the Necessary and Proper Clause. Thus, Congress may acquire land to build post Roads (limited access highways), house tax collectors, and build lighthouses under the Commerce Power.
(4) Further, the Constitutions Treaty Power authorizes the federal government to acquire territory.
(5) However, land acquiredthrough, for example, the Treaty Powermay be held only for enumerated purposes. Land not needed for such purposes must be disposed of within a reasonable time. The federal government should have disposed of BLM grazing land long ago.
(6) In fact, for the federal government to own a large share of American real estate (currently about 28 percent) is directly contrary to certain values the Constitution was designed to further.
(7) Disposal does not require handing real estate over to state government. On the contrary, in many situations doing so would conflict with federal officials duties of trust. In each instance, disposal should be effectuated so as to further the general welfare. In the case of some parcels, it may mean transferring to state government. But it may also require selling to the highest bidder, or, in the case of environmentally sensitive lands, transferring to perpetual environmental trusts, as is commonly done in England.
(8) The Enclave Clause (Article I, Section 8, Clause 17) is really more about governmental jurisdiction than ownership. The federal government can have an enclave in which much of the territory is titled to private partiesas is true of Washington, D.C. Its just that in an enclave, federal rather than state jurisdiction is supreme. Enclaves may be held only for enumerated purposes (as signaled by the use of the 18th century legal term needful). State consent to creation of an enclave is required, and consent can be conditional upon the federal government honoring particular terms.
(9) The Enclave Clause was sold to the ratifying public on the basis that enclaves would be relatively small. Holding massive tracts of undeveloped land (such as in Yosemite National Park, nearly 750,000 acres) as enclaves is not what the Founders had in mind.
(10) This is signaled by the Constitutions use of the word Building. In the 18th century, the term did not have to mean an enclosed space, but it did have to refer to a fabricated construction of some kind, since as a dockyard or (in modern terms) an airport runway.
(11) But not every parcel of federal land need be an enclave: In fact, most are not and should not be. Non-enclave land owned by the federal government is held under the Property Clause (Article IV, Section 3, Clause 2), and should be held only for enumerated purposes. Grazing, for example, is not an enumerated purpose.
(12) Non-enclave federal property within states is subject to state law. Contrary to current Supreme Court doctrine, when the federal government owns non-enclave land, the federal government usually should be treated like any other landowner, so long as the state respects the discharge of legitimate federal functions.
Rob was a law professor for 25 years, serving at three different universities. Among other subjects, he taught Constitutional Law, Constitutional History, Advanced Constitutional Law, and First Amendment. He is also the Senior Fellow in Constitutional Jurisprudence at the Montana Policy Institute.
Rob is especially known for his studies of the Constitutions original meaning. His research has carried him to libraries throughout the United States and in Britain, including four months at Oxford. The results have included several break-though discoveries.
I suppose this means that the state and local can be taxing the Fed just like they tax other property holders.
I wish I could discuss the ownership of land issues with my ConLaw professor, the late Charles Alan Wright, whose photographic memory extended beyond footnotes in amicus briefs to the writings of the founders. Had I known then what I know now, I would have clutched at every word he said and asked more questions.
Skimming the conclusion to Prof. Natelson's article, he concludes:
Natelson's constant reference to "current Supreme Court doctrine" is what I've clumsily been referring to as the difference between the Constitutional Law of the Land and the post-Marbury v. Madison 'law of the land.'
I’ve underlined in the article those portions I thought applied to Bundy’s case, in particular.
Assuming that open range, as Natelson says, should have been disposed of long ago, then that actually adds legitimacy to Bundy’s looking to the state of Nevada rather than to the federal government.
The other alternative that I see is that the Fed’s decision to accept grazing open range in the past was a provable “dispositioning” of the land that has the multiple effects of: (1) adverse utilization, and (2) control by Nevada.
Are you suggesting these issues for the ‘next Bundy’ or a different Bundy transaction, or are you suggesting an exception to res judicata/collateral estoppel regarding the previous final judgments against Bundy?
LOL. I'm a Chaplain, Scout. Translation required! I am neither a lawyer nor the son of a lawyer.
I'm actually suggesting that Natelson's conclusion that it's high time the Fed divested itself of land that long since should have been disposed of.
Now, that might affect Bundy, depending on Nevada and those other western states pressing their claims against the Fed.
It would help future Bundies (How do you spell the plural of Bundy...:>)
If the legal speech you posted means, "should they give Bundy a break on this?", then I'd say, "Yes, they need to start all over again."
At a glance, his points seem reasonable. However, this sentence is the killer:
“One position, which is current U.S. Supreme Court doctrine, is that the federal government may acquire and own any land it wishes for any governmental purpose, not just for its enumerated powers.”
That has been the consistent approach taken by the US Supreme Court since at least 1911.
That doesn’t mean it is right, but as a practical matter, the court will rarely overturn 100+ years of consistent precedence. If it does so, from what I’ve seen, it only does so to move in a liberal direction - because liberals don’t mind ignoring the Constitution, while conservatives are constrained by it.
If the Bundy or Hage case went before the Supreme Court, Justice Thomas is probably the only justice with the intelligence AND integrity to truly apply the Constitution to the situation, regardless of how that affected the outcome. Scalia might, but he is not as clear headed as Thomas. I’d bet the other 7 wouldn’t even hesitate to find for the government.
In fact, I’d bet Thomas would be the only justice on the Court who would consider taking such a case, which means it would not be heard. And until then, all lower courts are required to follow the precedent set by the Supreme Court for the last 100 years.
Thus, it comes back to the idea that only CONGRESS can do anything, and Congress does not want to. John McCain - one of my two supposedly reppublican senators - could end these abuses by the BLM & USFS this week if he wished. He has enough influence to get serious oversight hearings started, and to pass legislation that would require the BLM & USFS to pay at least some attention to multiple use.
Will he? Not a chance in hell! McCain wouldn’t lift a pinkie to help Tombstone get the water it needs to prevent the town from burning, although the USFS doesn’t really have a legal leg to stand on. A famous TOWN, not a rancher, in his state, with an obvious and critical need to do what they have been allowed to do for over 100 years...and McCain won’t lift a finger!
That is why I won’t vote for ‘whatever republican wins the primary’ any more. I don’t see any difference between McCain and Dingy Harry. I don’t doubt they get along fine, and McCain would vastly prefer to eat dinner with Dingy Harry than with Jim Robinson!
It might be that it will take civil disobedience to make the alphabet agencies wary enough that they won’t continue total abuse of their power. I was opposed to backing Bundy, and I still think his legal argument of not being a US citizen stinks...but the more I think about it, the only hope I see in getting ANY action is civil disobedience. I don’t think there are 5 genuine conservatives in the Senate, and probably no more than 20 tops in the House.
Thanks for the link. I’ll try to read it later today.
The STATES are negligent in their responsibilty to exercise their POWER provided to them in the CONSTITUTION. Congress is negligent in exercising its Constitutional authority in checking a runaway unconstitutional executive branch and federal bureaucracy. Seems the feds never gave the land to Nevada in the first place as they were required to do and Nevada hasn’t made any demands or taken legal aciton to protect its rights. In any case the local sheriff is THE LAW and he too was negligent in exercising his rights and duties..
AND NO ONE IS BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE........ as usual. Plus now we have the PRAVDA MEDIA not doing its job and merely being an arm of the libtard regime.
The Endangered Specious Act cites numerous environmental treaties for its authority. They could just as easily have taken Cliven Bundy's land for that, and paid for it.
Note: Do not presume that I believe said treaties are constitutionally legitimate.
The very idea that one particular parcel will remain suitable for a particular species in a dynamic system is based in this delusional idea that "Nature" is unchanging. What needs to happen is that a contract is let is for maintenance of said species. For example, Cliven Bundy's property was ideal for the desert tortoise. Hence, he would be in a favorable position to win that contract.
If the group of states meeting over wrongfully held federal lands sues the federal government, then Scotus MUST take the case, if I read the above and other sections of Art II correctly.
Another way would be to start TAXING the Federal government for public lands held that are not held under some enumerated purpose.
It is as I said: The Feds can only have land that they need to perform the functions they were authorized to do. Common sense was a founding father strong suit.
They’ve had that land more than long enough to figure out a constitutional disposition. Therefore, the state (counties) should start levying property tax.
The law review article is also available through xzins’ link. The only difference is my link is to a full-width .pdf.
full width is a better way to view the original which I think is on scibd or something like that
Yep. I'm not sure what he means by that, but since a president, according to the Constitution, must be a citizen of the USA, then I assume Bundy believes Nevandans aren't allowed to run for president. Lol.
On the other hand, the Founders did view a "state" as a nation, and the United States, viewed from their perspective, is probably better seen in our day as the "States United".
Each is a sovereign state.