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What Have You Said in Private?
Townhall.com ^ | April 29, 2014 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 04/29/2014 6:30:10 AM PDT by Kaslin

A private recording of racist remarks by the owner of the Los Angeles Clippers, Donald Sterling, in a telephone conversation was released last week. Among other comments, Sterling said to his former mistress, a black Mexican woman known as V. Stiviano:

"It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you're associating with black people. Do you have to? ... You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that ... and not to bring them to my games. I'm just saying, in your lousy f---ing Instagrams, you don't have to have yourself with, walking with black people. ... Don't put him [Magic] on an Instagram for the world to have to see so they have to call me. And don't bring him to my games."

That these comments are racist and therefore contemptible goes without saying. But the incident raises other issues that are not as clear as the racism in Sterling's comments, yet they are at least as important.

One is the increasing release -- and acceptability -- of private recordings and videos. Take the video released last month of a married congressman engaged in a passionate kiss with a married member of his staff. This was a security surveillance video. Isn't the only reason for the very existence of surveillance cameras to catch criminals? Why didn't the release of such a video shock the media and the country?

I have consistently defended these ubiquitous video cameras against those who argue that they violate our privacy. I am convinced that they are indispensable to apprehending violent criminals, as they were in the case of the Boston Marathon terrorists. But, I have repeatedly added, if these cameras are ever used for personal or political reasons to ruin people's lives or careers, the perpetrators of the release must be punished severely, including prison terms. And if this abuse becomes widespread, the cameras must be taken down.

The fact that whoever released the surveillance video of the congressman has not been apprehended is a threat to us all. Yet this aspect of the incident has not even been discussed. All we heard was gloating over catching a conservative congressman in an act of infidelity.

Similarly, recordings of private speech must also remain private unless they pose a danger to others. When the media report private conversations that pose no threat of violence, they encourage more and more people to record and release private conversations. That, far more than the NSA trolling of billions of phone calls in order to identify terrorists, poses a real threat to privacy. Where are the civil liberties groups and libertarians on this issue?

Now, the second issue: How important to the public are the private remarks of public individuals? On July 18, 2000, I wrote an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal titled: "Hillary Isn't an Anti-Semite."

It was a response to a book titled "State of a Union" by Jerry Oppenheimer, in which the author claimed that Clinton had called the Jewish manager of husband Bill's failed 1974 Congressional campaign, a "Jew bastard."

"I wish to defend Hillary Clinton," I wrote, "against the charge of anti-Semitism. I do so as a practicing Jew and a Republican. ... We must cease this moral idiocy of judging and labeling people by stray private comments. As David McCullough's biography of Harry Truman revealed, one of the most courageous friends American Jews and blacks ever had in the White House frequently used 'kike' and 'nigger' in private. He even wrote them down: In a letter home from New York, Mr. Truman described the city as 'kiketown.' Was this unfortunate? Yes. Important? No. Defining of the man? Absolutely not.

"I am repulsed by the loose talk about Mrs. Clinton's long-ago utterance. If that renders her an anti-Semite, then virtually every Gentile is anti-Semitic and almost every Jew is an anti-Gentile bigot.

"It is highly misleading to probe private comments for evidence of anti-Semitism, racism, bigotry and sexism. The present trend emanates largely from a lethal combination -- the totalitarian temptation inherent in contemporary liberalism and the media's sensationalism."

It may well matter to God what people say in private. But what should matter to us is what people say in public and how people act -- whether in private or public.

Now, as it happens, Sterling does seem to have behaved in a racist manner in the past. And these actions do matter in assessing Donald Sterling. It is worth noting, however, that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People apparently felt that all the previous charges of racist conduct meant nothing. It was scheduled to award Sterling a lifetime achievement award at its upcoming Los Angeles gala in two weeks.

Yes, the private remarks attributed to Sterling are racist and awful. But the growing acceptance of leaks of people's private non-criminal behaviors and comments -- and the consequent judgment of these people -- will ultimately injure society far more than who owns the Los Angeles Clippers.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: donaldsterling; hillaryclinton; laclippers; privacy
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1 posted on 04/29/2014 6:30:10 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I could tell you...but then it would become public and it ain’t pretty.


2 posted on 04/29/2014 6:32:54 AM PDT by Married with Children
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To: Kaslin

The whore lost her meal ticket and so is now getting revenge

The recording sounds so staged on her part- she knew she was baiting him into saying something bad.

I hope the wife wins the lawsuit against her


3 posted on 04/29/2014 6:33:13 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: Kaslin

Oprah complained about black people being in her home and the media didn’t blow it up this big.


4 posted on 04/29/2014 6:34:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Kaslin
"We must cease this moral idiocy of judging and labeling people by stray private comments. As David McCullough's biography of Harry Truman revealed, one of the most courageous friends American Jews and blacks ever had in the White House frequently used 'kike' and 'nigger' in private. He even wrote them down: In a letter home from New York, Mr. Truman described the city as 'kiketown.' Was this unfortunate? Yes. Important? No. Defining of the man? Absolutely not. "

Um... yes it is.

Character is who you are when no one is looking

5 posted on 04/29/2014 6:34:55 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: Kaslin

I am assuming this conversation was leaked in response to Donald Sterling’s wife, Rochelle suing V Stribbiano?

What a mess for the stupid old fool. And btw, if I had a mistress, I wouldn’t want her sleeping with everyone and their dog, especially after I had bought her 2 ferraris, a bentley, and a pricey house.


6 posted on 04/29/2014 6:42:31 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: Mr. K

very very staged….to try and make her look good, and make him look bad. Very scripted on her part. Embarrassingly so.


7 posted on 04/29/2014 6:42:35 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Mr. K
The recording sounds so staged on her part- she knew she was baiting him into saying something bad.

Why isn't she being prosecuted for this recording? In California both parties must agree to recording before it can be legally done.

The wife's lawsuit against her was for her embezzling, wasn't it?

8 posted on 04/29/2014 6:44:11 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Mr. K
The whore lost her meal ticket and so is now getting revenge

I wouldn't be surprised if she has lots more stuff. Including video.

My bet is she gets a huge payoff.

9 posted on 04/29/2014 6:44:34 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Kaslin

No fool like and old fool.


10 posted on 04/29/2014 6:44:55 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

isn’t that for it to be used as legal evidence?


11 posted on 04/29/2014 6:45:06 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Kaslin

She looks like a mid-priced Vegas hooker.Couldn’t the old fart find someone better looking ang more reliable?


12 posted on 04/29/2014 6:45:40 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Kaslin

Weird people. The women’s faces look pulled out of place. Then you hear the conversation. The woman talks to the man like he is a little boy. He blusters at her. This is what billionaires are like? Rude, petulant children?

I don’t care what these people do, or how much money they have. They are unclean!


13 posted on 04/29/2014 6:46:30 AM PDT by olepap (Your old Pappy)
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To: Kaslin

Mark Cuban, who I always haven’t been the biggest fan of, nailed it....

“I think you’ve got to be very, very careful when you start making blanket statements about what people say and think, as opposed to what they do. It’s a very, very slippery slope.”


14 posted on 04/29/2014 6:48:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Mr. K
Character is who you are when no one is looking

I look forward to all the transcripts of your private conversations so we may pass judgement.

15 posted on 04/29/2014 6:49:44 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Mr. K

I don’t disagree, but I assess character by evaluating a person’s history in context, not on the basis of any single event or utterance. No one is perfect, we all screw up. But we are supposed to strive to be better, too.


16 posted on 04/29/2014 6:50:37 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: olepap

Demonic possession takes many faces ...


17 posted on 04/29/2014 6:51:57 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Kaslin

This is a real danger. The NBA better tread very carefully. Many of these billionaires have mistresses, no doubt....


18 posted on 04/29/2014 6:52:16 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Kaslin
What Have You Said in Private?

Think about that!!! What have we become? On the other hand, how would Obama and all his Marxists like the world to know what they have said in private? Hmmmm? 1984......2014!

19 posted on 04/29/2014 6:53:18 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin
The degree of screaming from the media is a rough indication of the fear felt by the left regarding racial matters. Nothing can conceal Zimbabwe,South Africa, Detroit, Chicago, D.C.,Baltimore, "The Knockout Game," "Reverend Wright," "Snoop Dog," Louis Farrakhan, the call for segregated basketball. Nothing, but nothing will stop the ever increasing realization that we are heading for disaster. The media and the left with all their T.V. Movies and News Media propaganda can hide the truth.
20 posted on 04/29/2014 6:54:08 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: dfwgator

Those who think Sterling is just going to roll over for them are in for a rude surprise. The dude’s 80 YO, is worth billions, and the ego to go with all that cash.


21 posted on 04/29/2014 6:54:20 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Kaslin

Does anyone else wonder if it isn’t just a coincidence that this disturbing racial diatribe gets released just as Obama, Holder and the Democrat establishment is doing everything in their power to stir up racial unrest, most likely to motivate black voters for the midterms?

Holder is commissioning one study after the other on “disparate impact” and openly accusing congress of racism - this fits right in to that narrative.

It sure didn’t take Obama long to weigh in on Sterling’s comments.


22 posted on 04/29/2014 6:54:28 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“Why isn’t she being prosecuted for this recording? In California both parties must agree to recording before it can be legally done.”

She and TMZ both claim that he knew he was being recorded, and when you hear the full recording, it’s clear he knew. I don’t know if that’s true or if we’ll ever hear evidence, but that’s what is being ‘reported’.


23 posted on 04/29/2014 6:54:28 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: Mr. K

Sorry, I disagree. Truman was a decent person. Not perfect.

Just like you.


24 posted on 04/29/2014 6:54:28 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Kaslin; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Cats Pajamas; GOPJ; Liz
RE :”What Have You Said in Private?”

Yep, its seems a bit extreme.....
to crucify this clown for what he believed was a private conversation......
and what she did in recording him is outright illegal to do here in Maryland......

But considering that his behavior was so seedy, associating with someone like her in the first place, and buying her expensive gifts and $$$,(while being married) and the planned NAACP Lifetime Achievement award ( this part is really funny, really!!), its impossible to sympathize with him at all.

I hope he puts up a fight and goes out swinging....for entertainment..keep MSNBC busy....I never watched basket-ball anyway.

25 posted on 04/29/2014 6:55:30 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: Kaslin
Liberals don't want privacy. Liberals want political correctness enforced 24x7 in every aspect of our lives. They want to set the agenda, set the standard. If you don't live up to it every single moment of your life, they (liberals) want the evidence there to destroy you.

Liberals claim they are all about tolerance, acceptance, diversity. Yet here we have a guy that doesn't follow the liberal PC agenda. Look how "tolerant" and "accepting" liberals are. How much are they "celebrating his diversity" from them? Yeah, not so much. In fact they are working overtime to vilify and destroy him. {expletive} hypocrites.

The single greatest threat to true freedom and liberty is the so-called liberal.

26 posted on 04/29/2014 6:55:32 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Kaslin

Geeze, it’s getting more and more like the old Soviet Union.

“In Obama’s America - television watches YOU!”


27 posted on 04/29/2014 6:56:15 AM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Kaslin

Well, I guess this old f*rt isn’t convinced that’s racist. I mean, substitute ‘homosexuals’ where the word blacks is found and it is clear the man doesn’t want to be used to promote a social engineering agenda. That the New Yuck Slimes twist that into racism is just more proof the media whoredom are being obedient and pimping yet another faux crisis in order to keep anyone from seeing the evil in our midst destroying America behind a curtain of media promoted deception.


28 posted on 04/29/2014 6:56:37 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Kaslin
What Have You Said in Private?

Nothing, since about 2000.

There is no 'private'.

29 posted on 04/29/2014 6:56:43 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

add “...for only so long.” to the end of the last sentence.


30 posted on 04/29/2014 6:57:20 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

The act itself is criminal in California.


31 posted on 04/29/2014 6:59:57 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Mr. K
Character is who you are when no one is looking?

Or recording. All of this smacks of a police state and I fear we are headed in that direction. Surreptitiously recording a person's private conversations is an assault on individual liberty and free speech.

I lived two years in a communist country. What is happening here is very similar to how the communists were able to control and intimidate free expression. Any anti-government remarks in private or in public were subject to retribution. Children were encourage to report on their parents.

NSA has shown that we have the technical means to invade the private domain of speech and written correspondence. How far will we go in this realm? And can we just dismiss any protection of our free right of expression if the targeted individual is privately a bigot or racist?

32 posted on 04/29/2014 7:01:48 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Moonman62

you would be welcome to them


33 posted on 04/29/2014 7:01:58 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: GIdget2004

If so, he was very foolish. Or arrogant to the point of foolishness.


34 posted on 04/29/2014 7:02:26 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Why isn't she being prosecuted for this recording? In California both parties must agree to recording before it can be legally done.

I take it you are in favor of prosecuting James O'Keefe for his videos of government crooks and Lila Rose who videotapes the abortion facilities?

Should only the government be allowed to secretly tape your conversations?

35 posted on 04/29/2014 7:04:07 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Kaslin

Comments on most general matters of “interest” which I have uttered in private has been communicated in one way or another right here on Free Republic

I suspect that were I a “sort of” public figure”....[ and wealthy enough to be quoted that Barack Hussein Mohammed Obama would have called for my head on a spike many moons ago.

we truly seem to be entering the new dark ages


36 posted on 04/29/2014 7:04:31 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: kabar

you should write a book on those parralels- show how what we are seeing now is the same as what you saw then


37 posted on 04/29/2014 7:04:58 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: Kaslin

“The little I ask you is not to promote it on that”

What is “it? What is “that”? What was she “promoting”? Curious choice of words. Promoting something using “race”? Not approving of using race for a promotion wouldn’t necessarily be racist.

This sentence is “context” to his so-called racist remarks.

Without understanding what he meant by this statement, I can’t determine how racist, if at all, his comments were. Why can everyone one else do so?


38 posted on 04/29/2014 7:05:25 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

I sense he was TRYING to be FUNNY but I could be mistaken


39 posted on 04/29/2014 7:06:26 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Married with Children

I would be soooo SCREWED if everything I said in private was made public.


40 posted on 04/29/2014 7:07:19 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: Kaslin

Donald Sterling is definitely guilty of choosing an UGLY mistress.


41 posted on 04/29/2014 7:07:29 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Mr. K
It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.

Voltaire

42 posted on 04/29/2014 7:09:01 AM PDT by kabar
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To: P-Marlowe

I don’t like the law either but if you are going to have it as law the owner should be able to use it against her. The liberals brought this about in California so it is right that they should be hoist on their owen petard.


43 posted on 04/29/2014 7:09:04 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“owen”=”own”


44 posted on 04/29/2014 7:09:39 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Kaslin

I’ve been thinking on this long and have reached a conclusion many will consider a wild accusation. We are experiencing the rise of a Red Guard.

Mao’s cultural revolution was started to do away with the four old ways(old customs, old culture, old habits and old ideas). Entertain for a moment to replace the word old with the American. American customs, American Culture, American habits, and American ideas. The younger generation under Mao set about purging the nation by destroying religion and persecuting people through public humiliation and eventually reeducation camps.

These incidents revolving around the private lives citizens ending up in public humiliation, some in loss of jobs or loss of livlihoods...is this really that far, distant...from the early actions of the Chinese Red Guards? Aren’t we just actually watching the modern day version of a powerful few to inflict public humiliation outside the scope of law?

If one doesn’t’ toe the line on race, homosexuality, or is a Christian...these old ways much be done away with. And anyone who holds even the remotest of views to the old ways must be humiliated in public.


45 posted on 04/29/2014 7:30:30 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: Mr. K
The recording sounds so staged on her part- she knew she was baiting him into saying something bad.

He should have known too. Just proves yet again that you don't have to be brilliant to get rich beyond the avarice of Midas. That's not to say that some who do get filthy rich are not brilliant.

46 posted on 04/29/2014 7:32:30 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: sickoflibs; Kaslin; Gilbo_3; Impy; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Cats Pajamas; GOPJ; ...

No one is going to crucify him.

He’s a HUGE Democrat donor, writes big, fat checks. The media will scream, the professionally-offended and perpetually-offended will will scream, and next week, the NEXT new big horrible offense will come up, or they’ll be quietly told to move on and find another target.

Personally - this is supposedly old news, how this guy is. The players who knew he was like this, and yet STILL continue to cash his checks, are no better than his little hooker playmate.

Their selective outrage only goes as far as the distance to the bank with their paychecks.

They want us to believe them? Fine. Quit the team, and go elsewhere. Or better yet, DON’T accept a paycheck from the guy.

Hypocrites, all.

I’m not sympathizing with the guy, but the ONLY crime that has been committed here was an illegal wiretap/recording without consent by his little pay-to-lay. His opinion is not a crime, only in some hysterical libs’ vacuous minds.

People want him punished? Fine. Don’t buy his products - no Jerseys, no hats, no sneakers, no games. That’s THEIR Freedom of Speech.


47 posted on 04/29/2014 7:34:56 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Great point!!!!

Negroes in the House

48 posted on 04/29/2014 7:35:11 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: sickoflibs; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; dfwgator

I rather strongly feel that punishing people for private conversations is lame. That jerk Mark Cuban actually said it well, “that’s a slippery slope that I don’t want to go down”.

Not to imply I’d have much sympathy for him if he were a Republican, I wouldn’t, but I have ZERO sympathy for him, mostly for one reason, because he’s he’s a RAT. And yes he is a rat Liberal websites are jumping all over themselves saying that’s not true. He’s a registered Republican they say “So what?” is what I say to that.

Money talks, voter registration walks, he hasn’t given any money to us that I’ve heard of. Show me otherwise Mother Jones or STFU. Know many Republicans that hang around with the NAACP crowd? He’s a rat. Therefore I say to him, burn baby burn.

So his “girlfriend” is a hooker? Apparently he doesn’t mind if she sleeps with other men. What a piece of sleaze he is.


49 posted on 04/29/2014 7:35:47 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

Freedom of Speech works both ways - for the Golden Child du jour AND for the bearded anarchist - OR the fat old Democrat POS donor that happens to own a basketball team.

The left defines Freedom of Speech as “Only the Speech WE agree with”.

But they GOT where they are in this Country by hiding under the First Amendment.


50 posted on 04/29/2014 7:38:45 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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