Skip to comments.Council passes 'Ban the Box' legislation
Posted on 04/29/2014 9:21:54 AM PDT by MNDudeEdited on 04/29/2014 9:37:57 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Controversial legislation intended to help ex-convicts find jobs is headed to Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake for her expected signature after the City Council gave the measure final approval Monday.
The "Ban the Box" bill will force Baltimore employers to wait to ask about a job candidate's criminal history until a conditional offer has been extended. The bill passed despite an intense lobbying effort from business leaders, who said they should have the right to vet prospective employees early in the process.
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Are they going to forbid a prospective employer from doing an internet search of the applicant’s name?
Yeah, that'll work.
I see a lawsuit in Baltimore’s future.
Special exemption for the hiring of clerical and other staff for the City Council coming soon!
Amnesty, the Obama administration planning to release prisoners and jobs already difficult to find for average citizens—I guess it’s intended to overwhelm the system.
Hire a felon and get your liability insurance policy cancelled.
Seems like it is only going to make businesses interview people they will never hire.
Make job offer.
Seems it would be easy for any employer to defeat by only hiring from an employment agency outside the city.
This will require: (1) lifetime employment history, (2) conditional job offer only if an Internet search for criminal convictions comes up empty and there are no employment gaps of over 30 days, (3) ask about criminal history, and (4) rescind job offer not for being a felon but for lying on the application. No problem, except that those with extended unemployment lose too.
Our culture of using criminal background checks to exclude people from employment, not just in what used to be called "positions of trust", but in toto creates government dependence and guarantees recidivism. The notion that once one served one's sentence, one had "paid one's debt to society" was one of the boundary markers our ancestors put in place. Removing it is not conservative.
This brings up a very good question: How long should a person be punished for a crime?
Given the exception of security and trustworthiness of many occupational fields, there must be (given the law of averages) some ex-convicts that are truly trying to make an honest living in society after incarceration.
Should a person who has served their time (incarceration + parole, etc.) be punished for the rest of their natural life without the prospect of a rewarding career? Or should they be relegated to the stereo-typical jobs of Harley mechanic?
Make job offer.
Make job offer.
Hire lawyers to handle lawsuit.
Terminate all employees.
well, then they should ban criminals checks as well.
DING! DING! DING! WE HAVE A WINNAH!..........................
> The “Ban the Box” bill will force Baltimore employers to wait to ask about a job candidate’s criminal history until a conditional offer has been extended.
I’m pretty sure, if I were an employer in Baltimore, that shortly after this goes into effect, that I’d have a criminal history, in fact, a multiple one. Thanks MNDude.
Is this the newest ‘hire a criminal sociopath’ program the liberals (thugs) are pushing?
No one’s ‘smoother’ in an interview than a person without a conscience...
If they weren’t already, Baltimore employers will be contracting through temp services based outside city limits.
Whoops, what you said.
“...relegated to the stereo-typical jobs of Harley mechanic?”
My Harley mechanic would be a little offended by that comment.
News flash to you — you don’t know what you’re talking about. Requiring a job offer to be made before knowing is NOT CONSERVATIVE. And recidivism happens irrespective of employment status, not least because most ex-cons never had legal employment in the first place.
Mine too... I was going for the Sons of Anarchy, Teller-Morrow angle.
The point of this law is to deny to employers the option of finding out, and I’ll go out on a limb and say that this is all about how those poor ex-cons of color are being denied gainful employment by a bunch of rich racist business owners.
Hey, it worked for the DOJ and POTUS. /s Same method too — deny everyone access to the information needed for proper vetting.
Wouldn’t want to be racist...
Hey, at least the perp’s name and address would be known, quit complainin’. ;’)
RE: “The notion that once one served one’s sentence, one had “paid one’s debt to society” was one of the boundary markers our ancestors put in place.”
That’s the thing - some times that debt paid was just a pittance.
So should a Level 3 sex offender, who ‘paid his dept’ be allowed to work anywhere?
Keep in mind:
* ‘Anywhere’ includes schools and day cares
* Level 3 is defined as “high risk of repeat offense and a threat to public safety exists”
Sorry, no business should be forced to hire someone who may put their staff, their ‘customers’ (or students) or assets at risk.
I would surmise that you are 100% correct. I dislike the very notion of restricting any employer from checking a persons background, but I have often wondered about how punishment continues after the time served.
I would guess that even without a criminal background, many 'people of color' are not being hired simply because they do not respect the employer and are unable to bring anything of value in the way of skills and reliability to the employment table.
I have two felon machinists in my shop. Stupid things from years ago. But they told me up front without having to ask.
It all comes down to the individual.
Yeah, I knew that. I was just givin’ ya the business. You and I both know that when you find a good bike mechanic was knows his stuff and is honest he is worth his weight in gold. Ride safe this summer.
You as well. Cagers always want to kill us... Jealous bastards!
Read new rules.
Move business elsewhere.
Better idea. Thanks.
I had a situation where I really struggled with this very issue. I believe in second chances, believe once you've payed your debt that should settle it. Unfortunately, given the nature of the particular offense and the job for which the individual applied, the liability to our organization was just too great. I wished I could have given him a fresh start, but in all good conscience, I couldn't.
Gotta make sure the Black Guerilla Family has a shot at job offers when they get out of jail.
Maryland “Freak State” PING!
The only thing missing is, “It’s for the chilrun.”
Nanny State PING!
Thanks for the ping!
America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!
Yeah, what could possibly go wrong with that?
Oh, my -- whatever could have given you that idea?
Punishment should end when the sentence is completed. Consequences, however, may continue for quite awhile. The two should not be confused.
Archdiocesan leader pleased with child protection measures in ban the box bill
The Archdiocese of Baltimore supported the aims of the bill as a matter of social justice, but pushed for some exemptions for employers hiring staff who would have contact with children or vulnerable adults. DAlessandro testified before the council in February. The bill was amended to reflect the archdioceses concern.