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Anti-Kiev protesters take control of govt buildings in Lugansk Region, east Ukraine
Russia Today ^ | 04-29-2014

Posted on 04/29/2014 9:22:20 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016

Anti-government protesters have taken control of the regional administration building and prosecutor’s office in the city of Lugansk, eastern Ukraine. Protests continue as the deadline for the protesters’ ultimatum to the government expired.

“The building is ours. That’s it,” local protest leader Oleg Dereko told RIA Novosti.

“A regional administration building has been taken by storm,” an activist who asked not to be named has told RT. “A coordination committee and militia are now inside and are getting ready for an emergency meeting.”

The Ukrainian flag on the building has been replaced with Russia's tricolor.

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: lugansk; russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 04/29/2014 9:22:20 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: PaulCruz2016

More “Glorious People’s News!”


2 posted on 04/29/2014 9:24:02 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Thunder90

Just about anything the Ukraine does to put a stop to this sort of thing, gives Russia the ammo it needs to claim a right to go in to protect the Russians stuck in Eastern Ukraine.

All this concern for Russians in Eastern Ukraine.

What about the Ukrainians who live in Eastern Ukraine? Don’t they deserve to remain with their nation?


3 posted on 04/29/2014 9:29:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: PaulCruz2016

I’m confused. Are we suppose to support these protestors taking over the government or are we suppose to condemn them and only support the protestors in Kiev that took over the government?


4 posted on 04/29/2014 9:29:17 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: DoughtyOne
In run-up to referendum......Lugansk Gov. Admin. and TV/radio buildings taken by 'Anti-Fascist Protestors' as they called themselves..Police surrendered without resistance as people formed corridor so they could leave.....

Police marching away from building


5 posted on 04/29/2014 9:33:19 AM PDT by caww
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

I think the official U.S. (Obama) government line is:

Kiev, western Ukraine protesters: good, noble, pure as the wind-driven snow, only seek better government.

Eastern Ukraine protesters: filthy Russian-backed spies, not legitimate, possibly paid, etc, etc.


6 posted on 04/29/2014 9:33:57 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Depends. Did Ukraine invade and annex a part of Russia?


7 posted on 04/29/2014 9:36:08 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: caww

I appreciate the photos. In them it looks like this is a very popular movement. I’m not convinced of that. In these types of events, many more people remain home rather than go down and protest what is taking place, get involved in a fight and be killed or harmed severely.


8 posted on 04/29/2014 9:40:24 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Just wait til the dust settles......but it does appear this is
similar to Crimea....non-violent and the people planned this so it wouldn’t be and why so many showed up. This has been in the works since Crimea..... Also the police showed no resistance as they knew this was coming and agreement made with them prior.

I am understanding that Kiev has pretty much determined they won’t be fighting much against as the Eu believes Ukraine will be better off without these areas with a large Russian population...thus they can consolidate their power and take Ukraine further with the EU.


9 posted on 04/29/2014 9:52:54 AM PDT by caww
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To: DoughtyOne

These people have been ‘planning’ this for some time...since Crimea I believe...and they wanted it to be a peaceful, unlike Kiev, so if you note it’s pretty much a calm takeover.....I understand the militia were not part of the crowd when they first began this, came in after to secure the buildings.

I’ll be interested to see who they have as temporary officials. Donestk (self-appointed Mayor) creates many bad situations and violence as he’s on his own power trip Imo. I don’t think he’s a stable individual.


10 posted on 04/29/2014 9:59:40 AM PDT by caww
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To: PaulCruz2016; All

RT now carrying a LIVE FEED from Lugansk.

Large crowd now surrounding Police HQ, demanding they surrender.
http://rt.com/on-air/protesters-seize-building-ukraine/


11 posted on 04/29/2014 10:00:37 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: DoughtyOne

I hear now they are on the move, as action spreads from admin building to Int. Ministry and other admin buildings in Lugansk
Might be problems now as Int. Ministry buildings are filled with forces loyal to Kiev.

Going to see if photos or videos up yet on this....I have learned to get them early as event occurs, otherwise later so many are old or altered.


12 posted on 04/29/2014 10:04:15 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

“I am understanding that Kiev has pretty much determined they won’t be fighting much against as the Eu believes Ukraine will be better off without these areas with a large Russian population”

I am more inclined to believe it is because the coup government can only depend on around 1,000 people to actually fight, and several hundred of them are still camped out in Kiev.

The Army has proven to unreliable in two different attempts to put down the seperatists, and Right-Sector is the only thing keeping the government in Kiev in Office.


13 posted on 04/29/2014 10:06:44 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
I think RT is just replaying the event....here are the police after they surrendered to the people...they actually had a corridor the police could walk down and here they are in the cornered by the people.


14 posted on 04/29/2014 10:08:43 AM PDT by caww
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To: PaulCruz2016; All

MORE:
Soldiers of the National Guard in Lugansk agreed to surrender the arms

Soldiers of the National Guard of Ukraine, which were blocked by aggressive people with the Russian symbols in the building of the regional government administration in Lugansk agreed to return the arm to the armoury.

As reported by the correspondent of the agency “Interfax-Ukraine”, pro-Russian activists agreed to remove the blockade of 150 soldiers of the National Guard, who were in the inner court of the building in return to their promise not to use arms against them and return it to the armoury.

Few pro-Russian activists have followed the soldiers of the National Guard to “make sure” that the arms will be deposited to the armoury.
http://inforesist.org/soldiers-of-the-national-guard-in-lugansk-agreed-to-surrender-the-arms/?lang=en


15 posted on 04/29/2014 10:09:27 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: caww

That pic is from the Ministry.
Right now they are at Police HQ.

Several tweets saying the crowd wants those arrested in Lugansk freed, as well.


16 posted on 04/29/2014 10:11:16 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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Tweet and pic from James Mates, ITV News: Crowd at main door of Lugansk police HQ. Appears police inside have been refusing to leave. Surrounded by armed men
17 posted on 04/29/2014 10:14:07 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

...”Right-Sector is the only thing keeping the government in Kiev in Office”.....

Well I agree but then the EU/Nato/US are supporting them doing so.

Kiev has their hands plenty full just trying to control the thugs...as we saw the other day when they went beating on people during the march. These thugs come out of the woodwork in any march or protest because they love violence. It’s like trying to control gang members who are self appointed street gangs claiming to “protect” the citizens....when in fact they love fighting and with little reason to do so.

It’s a shame Kiev relies on these thugs....no different then Russia’s thugs.


18 posted on 04/29/2014 10:15:00 AM PDT by caww
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To: PaulCruz2016; All; Admin Moderator

Now listed as breaking on France24:

Breaking News
Ukraine’s president slams police ‘inaction’ as rebels storm state buildings in Luhansk
http://www.france24.com/en/breaking/20140429-ukraines-president-slams-police-inaction-rebels-storm-state-buildings-luhansk/?ns_campaign=reseaux_sociaux&ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=breaking&aef_campaign_ref=partage_aef&aef_campaign_date=2014-04-29


19 posted on 04/29/2014 10:17:59 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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Reuters Tweeting that protestors have taken the “television Center”, as well.


20 posted on 04/29/2014 10:20:32 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
Same time frame of your photo shows people forming corridor for police to leave...as done before....these police are those who refused to leave prior, as I'm reading it....


21 posted on 04/29/2014 10:21:27 AM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf
Here they are in adminstration building a short while back


22 posted on 04/29/2014 10:26:49 AM PDT by caww
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What are they singing??

My Russian is so rusty I can’t keep up, and I wasn’t that good at it 20 years ago.

Some kind of anthem?


23 posted on 04/29/2014 10:28:53 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf; All

Twitter:

Police have apparently decided to surrender, crowd waiting for them to walk out.


24 posted on 04/29/2014 10:31:55 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Now people are singing Katyusha in front of surrounded police HQ... a song about a girl longing for her beloved.


25 posted on 04/29/2014 10:37:58 AM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf

see post 25 on what they are singing about


26 posted on 04/29/2014 10:38:30 AM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf
Here they are singing and waiting as police have decided to surrender


27 posted on 04/29/2014 10:40:29 AM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf
All institutions of the city removed the yellow-blue flags replacing with Russian flag


28 posted on 04/29/2014 10:42:53 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

I continue to be amazed at what technology has allowed us.

I’m sitting in my home office, in the middle of an Indiana cornfield, watching historic events in real-time as they unfold, on the opposite side of the planet.


29 posted on 04/29/2014 10:48:58 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Interesting side note tcrlaf.....

Kiev has cancelled the annual military parade in the Ukrainian capital on May 9th when victory over Nazism is celebrated. Very telling wouldn’t you say?


30 posted on 04/29/2014 10:55:38 AM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf

I know exactly how that is....remarkable...and often we get what’s happening before it actually goes through all the editing at MSM.....I’ve learned to get photos as early as possible...otherwise they become distorted/altered and framed according to the leanings of MSM.


31 posted on 04/29/2014 10:57:30 AM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf

I know exactly how that is....remarkable...and often we get what’s happening before it actually goes through all the editing at MSM.....I’ve learned to get photos as early as possible...otherwise they become distorted/altered and framed according to the leanings of MSM.


32 posted on 04/29/2014 10:57:31 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Given the situation, that is more likely due to mistrust of the military on the part of the coup government, than anything pro-Nazi.


33 posted on 04/29/2014 10:58:58 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: caww

Got any good ones of Berkut snipers shooting protestors on the Maidan?


34 posted on 04/29/2014 11:04:26 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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RT just replaced the Lugansk live feed with the US State Department Daily presser live feed.

This should be interesting....


35 posted on 04/29/2014 11:04:36 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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Some police,reported as young as 18,scared to leave building. Weapons gathered inside to be shown to ‘self-defence’


36 posted on 04/29/2014 11:08:45 AM PDT by caww
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Tweet from Euromaidan PR:

“Sources in Luhansk & Donetsk Ukraine have confirmed that most separatists are either from Russia or Marginal local groups”

LOL... The children, too?
Baghdad Bob sounded more truthful.


37 posted on 04/29/2014 11:10:20 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: DoughtyOne
What about the Ukranians in Eastern Ukraine? Don't they deserve to remain with their nation?

Then they should keep their calm during the protests and demand a monitored vote (Crimea got one) as soon as possible. Enough of those maps have been posted so we all get it that a majority of people in these areas are Ukranian, but also a majority want to be able to speak Russian and to keep ties with Russia.

The Kiev gov is doing everything wrong, it seems. Example....unarmed people manning a checkpoint are not terrorists, and five of them being shot Easter morning was an outrage. They should be moving the vote forward as much as possible before they alienate even more people.

38 posted on 04/29/2014 11:11:07 AM PDT by grania
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To: tcrlaf

Negotiations on police surrender in Lugansk appear to have broken down over who gets to keep police weapons


39 posted on 04/29/2014 11:11:45 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Are you following a particular twitter account?


40 posted on 04/29/2014 11:12:52 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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......”they should keep their calm during the protests and demand a monitored vote (Crimea got one) as soon as possible”.....

I think they're attempting to do just that...at issue is “time”....as the “thuggery” groups, from all sides, likes a fight and it's not long before they get to whatever the latest protest or takeover is to do their deeds. They make good money fighting so it's better for them there is violence.

Some of these militia’s are men out of work and others who can barter either side for the best “pay” to make money they otherwise wouldn't have...and they do just that. If there's no violence they don't get the pay they seek by 'extending' these protests/takeovers as long as possible.

41 posted on 04/29/2014 11:18:25 AM PDT by caww
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Sources in Luhansk and Donetsk Ukraine have confirmed that most separatists are eith from Russia or marginal local groups

I'm somehow doubtful that Putin has bussed in those baboushkas to lead the protests.

42 posted on 04/29/2014 11:19:24 AM PDT by grania
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No, not anyone special, just ones that have many who are on the ground and otherwise....


43 posted on 04/29/2014 11:20:09 AM PDT by caww
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Vyacheslav Petrov, a representative of the so called “Headquarters of Free Luhansk Republic, has made an official statement live at the Luhansk local TV channel.

“Dear compatriots, countrymen, I am a representative of the National Homeguard of free Luhansk region. Republic in the future. As of today, we have seized and control buildings of local-government headquarters and regional Prosecutor’s Office, many building are being seized at the moment. Therefore, I ask you not to panic. Everything is under control. We are preparing for the referendum, which is planned to be held on May 11. Everyone should think and make a decision,” the statement reported.


44 posted on 04/29/2014 11:26:56 AM PDT by caww
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To: grania

You actually call that a monitored vote in Crimea? Seriously?

It was run by the Russians, counted by the Russians, and reported out as something like 95 to 98% in favor of joining Russia.

Then you talk about all the infractions of the Ukrainians, but forget to mention tens of thousands of Russian troops on the border, and Russian operatives taking over Checkpoints and at least one city.

Would you fault the U. S. if Mexico or Canada were pulling this routine on us? Evidently so...


45 posted on 04/29/2014 11:26:58 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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Here’s the link from his announcement

http://24tv.ua/home/showSingleNews.do?separatists_make_public_statement_they_will_seize_more_buildings_and_hold_a_referendum&objectId=437803&lang=en


46 posted on 04/29/2014 11:28:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: DoughtyOne
It was run by the Russians, counted by the Russians, and reported out as something like 95 to 98% in favor of joining Russia.

Kind of sounds like how Ukraine's new government operates.

47 posted on 04/29/2014 11:30:11 AM PDT by McGruff (Clinton had his Kosovo, Obama has his Ukraine.)
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To: McGruff

Do you like how our government is run right now?

What do you think we deserve?

Should Mexico start annexing parts of our southern border.

The Ukraine has the right to run things their way, whether we like it or not.

Look at the massive protests in the 60s & 70s. Protests may or may not represent the vast body of the populace.


48 posted on 04/29/2014 11:35:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
I would praise the US gov (for a change) if they put troops on our border with Mexico, and I would expect Mexico and Canada to put troops on the border if there were difficult situations that could spill over from the US.

As far as that vote is concerned, I remember reading that the European monitors said the vote was without abuse. And I also read that the European monitoring group condemned the Ukraine not airing Russian TV.

Like I wrote earlier, let the Kiev gov prove your point with a popular vote.

49 posted on 04/29/2014 11:38:39 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Okay, then I suppose you would support such a vote in California an other border states too.

Grania, when is the last time you remember seeing any vote at any time come out 95-98% for something?

That doesn’t cause you any concern at all?

This his how the USSR elections used to turn out. I’m not buy this for a moment. Elections simply don’t turn out that lop-sided.

You could run a vote in West Hollywood to support homosexual rights and not get that plurality.


50 posted on 04/29/2014 11:42:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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