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Howie Carr: Rand Paul Plays to His Liberal College Crowds
NewsMax ^ | Monday, 28 Apr 2014 05:43 PM | Joe Battaglia

Posted on 04/29/2014 12:19:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

The messages from Sen. Rand Paul seem to get less conservative whenever he speaks to students on liberal college campuses, Boston Herald columnist and radio host Howie Carr says.

On Friday, Paul, a Kentucky Republican who is considering a run for the GOP presidential nomination in 2016, tested his libertarian-leaning brand of politics on students at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government.

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Carr told J.D. Hayworth and John Bachman on "America's Forum" on Newsmax TV on Monday that Paul has that appeal to young voters because he tells them what they want to hear, not necessarily the views of the majority of Republicans.

"This is a pattern with Rand Paul," Carr said. "He goes to Berkeley, same thing. Oh, he wants to get all the people from the 21st-century version of the free speech movement. He goes to a La Raza group and he talks about how we need illegal aliens and we have to give jobs to illegal aliens."

Carr added that this is not the message that will inspire the conservative base of the Republican Party in 2016.

"I saw today a poll in the Daily Caller of Iowa, and he seems to be slipping a little bit," Carr said. "Maybe the stoner wing of the Republican Party is beginning to realize that he's not his father and that there's more to this guy than just pro-marijuana.

"I don't think he's quite as pure, pure distilled conservative as some of the others in the race, especially Ted Cruz."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 2016election; academicbias; kentucky; liberalism; libtardian; obamacare; paulians; paultards; rand; randpaul; randpaul2016; randpaultruthfile; rino
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1 posted on 04/29/2014 12:19:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

“I don’t think he’s quite as pure, pure distilled conservative as some of the others in the race, especially Ted Cruz.”

Got that right.


2 posted on 04/29/2014 12:26:35 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SoConPubbie

I’ve said many times, every Senator eventually drifts to the left. It will happen to all of them.


3 posted on 04/29/2014 12:27:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SoConPubbie

Why not? They are the same people who kept his daddy’s campaigns viable in the GOP primaries.

Maybe the Pauls can make more deals with Mitt Romney to focus only on attacking conservative candidates regardless of party.


4 posted on 04/29/2014 12:28:07 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: a fool in paradise

Rand Paul Crafting New Alliances With Romney’s 2012 Team
CBS ^ | April 28, 2014 9:29 AM
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3150072/posts


5 posted on 04/29/2014 12:29:54 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: SoConPubbie
The nut doesn't fall far from the tree, but that said, Paul would be better than Warren or Hillary or any other Marxists that would be running.

Cruz/Palin or Cruz/Walker...is my ticket.

6 posted on 04/29/2014 12:30:31 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Resolute Conservative

“I don’t think he’s quite as pure, pure distilled conservative as some of the others in the race, especially Ted Cruz.”

Yup. But there are three other questions to consider. (1)Is Ted Cruz going to run,(2)if so, can he somehow get through primaries and be nominated, and (3) if he is the nominee, can he get elected?

My personal view is (1) maybe, (2) hell no, and (3) maybe.


7 posted on 04/29/2014 12:38:08 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Folks, the fix is in.)
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To: SoConPubbie
I certainly would not call Rand Paul liberal. His dad, Ron Paul always attracked a college crowed of libertarians, that was his biggest base. I remember parking my car in a UW parking lot with a Ron Paul for president bumper sticker when he was running as a libertarian. I got a note on my windshield wiper to 'please join us'. I think dad helps Rand Paul on college campuses even now.
8 posted on 04/29/2014 12:49:05 PM PDT by Vinylly (?)
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To: a fool in paradise
focus only on attacking conservative candidates

Seems like the way to get ahead these days doesn't it?

Look at the party "leaders"--McConnell, Boehner, several of the Boehner buttkissers, McCain, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie...

They all campaign against conservatives and conservatism with much more zeal (indeed contempt) than they ever muster for their Democrat opponents.

9 posted on 04/29/2014 12:52:05 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Vinylly

Both Pauls are socially liberal. And any claims to small gov are for public consumtion, Ron Paul stuffed pork in the bills he virtuously voted “no” on, since he knew they would pass.

They attract doper idiots - aka college age libertarians.

Rand Paul is, if possible, turning out to be even more repellent than his daddy.


10 posted on 04/29/2014 12:58:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SoConPubbie
Paul would be the first President since James Monroe to wear a wig.

I suppose that's something.

11 posted on 04/29/2014 1:08:23 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Vinylly
I certainly would not call Rand Paul liberal. His dad, Ron Paul always attracked a college crowed of libertarians, that was his biggest base. I remember parking my car in a UW parking lot with a Ron Paul for president bumper sticker when he was running as a libertarian. I got a note on my windshield wiper to 'please join us'. I think dad helps Rand Paul on college campuses even now.

You call them Libertarians, I call them Liberals.

You say Tomato, I say Tomaatoo.

No real big difference between the two, except that Libertarians could be called Greedy Liberals.
12 posted on 04/29/2014 1:14:00 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]
Rand Paul's immigration speech
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...
[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]

13 posted on 04/29/2014 1:37:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]

14 posted on 04/29/2014 1:37:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"
I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.
[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]

15 posted on 04/29/2014 1:37:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'
Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists. [by "anti-government activists" is meant church-burning Christian-murdering jihadists]
[Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]

16 posted on 04/29/2014 1:38:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SoConPubbie

There is no one in the CONSERVATIVE” side of this discussion that are against “LEGAL IMMIGRATION”. What the problem has always been, is the illegal immigrants swarming into this country. And we don’t have any politician that will do anything to stop it. Because of the BBB (BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU) that are for all these illegal immigration, along with these liberals, socialists and communists in our government. The BBB does it for business reasons, and these liberals, socialists and communists are for it for political reasons.


17 posted on 04/29/2014 1:43:11 PM PDT by gingerbread
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To: gingerbread

I have started calling these south of the border persons ‘illegal interlopers’ because they are not immigrants.


18 posted on 04/29/2014 2:00:27 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: ExCTCitizen
Paul would be better than Warren or Hillary or any other Marxists that would be running.

Isn't it a little early for that desperate, Romney-like plea?

19 posted on 04/29/2014 2:04:11 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: gingerbread

Many of us are against immigration. We are already far exceeding 300 million people and our quality of life of 1970 is forever gone, we don’t need to keep importing countless millions of foreigners.

Legal or illegal doesn’t make all that much difference and hasn’t in the past, it is the numbers that are killing us.


20 posted on 04/29/2014 2:08:49 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ExCTCitizen
The nut doesn't fall far from the tree, but that said, Paul would be better than Warren or Hillary or any other Marxists that would be running.

You miss the point. Rand Paul, like Ron Paul for decades before him, has a purpose and a very lucrative one at that.

Their purpose was and is to draw enough potential Republican votes away to allow the Democrats to win -- over, and over, and over. That's worth a lot of money.

21 posted on 04/29/2014 2:09:37 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Vinylly

Why couldn’t Rand Paul win the young libertarian voters for Romney? Instead they supported Obama.


22 posted on 04/29/2014 2:11:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: gingerbread

Legal immigration is a problem too. We are being swamped with Third Worlders who hate us and our culture. They will help to destroy this country.


23 posted on 04/29/2014 3:51:01 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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