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New York Goes to War Against Airbnb for Disrupting Hotel Business
Mashable ^ | April 26, 2014 | Jason Abbruzzese and Jessica Plautz

Posted on 04/29/2014 5:21:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

As far as the state of New York is concerned, most of Airbnb's business is illegal.

What had been a relatively civil legal proceeding spilled into the press this week when the rental startup and New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman met in court on Tuesday. Airbnb has said the attorney general “is determined to fight innovation and attack regular people.” The attorney general's office claims it has worked with numerous other tech companies to stamp out illegal activity, but that Airbnb is being evasive.

At the center of the dispute are records of Airbnb’s hosts who rented their homes in New York. The attorney general wants the information. Airbnb, worried about the impact this could have on its customers and its business, has resisted.

That may seem like a local issue, but the ramifications are big. The case could become a guide for other municipalities that want to limit rentals through Airbnb.

Beyond Airbnb, the case is among the most high profile of any company in the sharing economy, the peer-to-peer marketplaces that some believe could change how we do business everywhere.

Let's start simple.

Give me a quick refresher on Airbnb.

Airbnb is an online platform that allows you to list your house or apartment as a rental. Going away for the weekend? Got a spare bedroom for the next few weeks? You can put it on the site, find a person to rent it and pocket some extra cash.

Less than six years old, the company is already valued at around $10 billion.

Seems like a good idea. What’s the problem?

Housing laws in some places prohibit the rental of rooms, apartments or houses under certain conditions.

The business of Airbnb is not illegal, but the rentals can be. New York real estate law prohibits certain housing arrangements. Among the most important to this case: owners or renters of New York apartments cannot rent them out to someone else for less than 30 days unless they are also present. So if you went away for the weekend and rented your apartment out through Airbnb, that would technically be illegal.

Isn’t that a lot of Airbnb’s business?

The New York attorney general certainly thinks so. About two-thirds of Airbnb’s New York City rentals are of this type, according to an analysis commissioned by the state of New York.

Airbnb disputes this, sort of. Airbnb’s head of global public policy wrote in a blog post that “87% of Airbnb hosts occasionally rent out only the property in which they actually live.” Not exactly a denial that most of its New York hosts break the law, but a strong claim that shadier arrangements like “illegal hotels” are rare. Airbnb said it recently cracked down on hosts with numerous listings that "weren’t providing a quality, local experience to guests."

And the state of New York has a problem with that?

Oh yeah. Schneiderman has been working on going after the company for months.

Last fall, his office sent Airbnb a legal notice requesting information on about 15,000 hosts who had listings on the site, in an effort to crack down on tax evasion and “illegal hotels.”

An individual tenant who leases out an apartment for a weekend might be breaking the law but is probably not the focus of the state’s action. Instead, the state is targeting hosts who have dozens of listings or use Airbnb for illicit activities.

Airbnb is not thought to be evading any taxes, but its customers might be. The rental of homes or apartments is subject to local taxes, some of which the attorney general believes are not being paid.

Airbnb’s terms of service put the legal responsibility for paying taxes on its hosts. The company has also worked with other cities, namely Portland and San Francisco, to include city taxes in its arrangements.

If laws were put in place to prevent these kinds of rentals, then what’s the point? Does Airbnb offer any positive impact?

Airbnb certainly thinks so. The company claims that it makes New York rent more affordable for hosts and projects that it will generate $768 million in economic activity in New York in 2014 as well as $36 million in sales tax.

This thing is worth $10 billion?

Yup, that little apartment rental business has blossomed into a serious moneymaker. A recent round of fundraising valued the company at $10 billion.

So is this a case of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch?

Perhaps. Airbnb has been subject to some high-profile disasters such as the “XXX Freak Fest” and the trashing of an apartment, but the company claims these are aberrations among its 500,000 hosts across the world.

There is some talk that New York’s real estate laws could change. Speaking to PandoDaily on Thursday at New York Tech Day, Schneiderman said that he is required to enforce the current law, which he notes was passed in 2010 “when Airbnb was in business, with them in mind.”

I might have rented out my apartment one weekend when I was away. Am I going to be in trouble?

Maybe. If Schneiderman gets the courts to force Airbnb to relinquish its host data, he could begin targeting hosts who broke the law. It probably wouldn't make much sense for him to go after people who use the site occasionally, but it might be a good idea to find out if you owe any taxes. Airbnb has some information that can help.

If Airbnb is worth so much and has hosts all over the world, why is New York important?

New York is not the only city that is taking issue with Airbnb, but it is the most serious case.

New York represents a major market for Airbnb. The city that never sleeps had 19,521 listings for places to lay your head as of Jan. 31, according to Skift and data firm Connotate.

Airbnb is already in 33,000 cities, but a lot of those do not have the kind of legal restrictions of the Big Apple. So if Airbnb can make it there, they can (probably) make it anywhere.

I'm not going to rent out my apartment, nor am I going to rent someone else'e apartment. Why should I care?

This case directly impacts only Airbnb and its hosts. The broader questions have consequences for any number of consumer-focused peer-to-peer startups.

Various companies have sprung up to take advantage of privately owned but not entirely utilized assets like apartments, cars and even tools. Ever hailed a private car on Uber or found some help on TaskRabbit? Then you've participated in the sharing economy.

Right now these startups might seem small, but in 2013 Forbes estimated that the sharing economy would divert $3.5 billion of capital.

TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: airbnb; bureaucrats; lodging; newyork

1 posted on 04/29/2014 5:21:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s all fun and games until someone loses an eye.

2 posted on 04/29/2014 5:27:05 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I personally wouldn’t rent my home to someone on AirBnB...too many times they are used for parties, prostitution, and whatever else. Hell, they could be cooking meth in your place.

But, to each his own, as long as the sublet doesn’t encroach on my property rights.

3 posted on 04/29/2014 5:27:19 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: headstamp 2

It’s all fun and games until some local government thinks that it’s losing tax dollars.

4 posted on 04/29/2014 5:33:55 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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5 posted on 04/29/2014 5:36:18 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow. I didn’t know that crime was so low in NYC that the DAs have time to go after this sort of thing. I guess the streets are perfectly safe now, no rapes, gangs or drug dealers. Must be a great city to raise kids in now! /sarc

6 posted on 04/29/2014 5:39:55 PM PDT by Seruzawa (Gully Foyle is my name, and Terra is my nation)
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To: Farmer Dean

I’ve never heard of “rent” being subject to local taxes. I guess they don’t get enough from property owners paying real estate and school taxes.

7 posted on 04/29/2014 5:52:31 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: Seruzawa
I'm no fan of New York government, but I'm surprised that this company has been able to stay in business this long without running into all kinds of legal problems. And I wasn't even thinking about hotel industry issues. It would seem to me that anyone who rents an apartment out through an online company like this is potentially running afoul of the local zoning code as well as (maybe) provisions of their own lease.

And as far as NYC goes, there's a whole other side to this that hasn't been mentioned in any of the media reports I've read: What exactly is the legality of renting out an apartment like this in a jurisdiction where many of the apartments are subject to rent-control regulations?

8 posted on 04/29/2014 5:57:54 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Farmer Dean

Hit it right on the head ... all the other crap excuses are just cover for the real goal .... more taxes, and more and more

9 posted on 04/29/2014 6:09:07 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Watching MSM news readers pimping His Arrogance is like watching a dog eat its own vomit!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would suppose the hotels and motels are complaining, not to mention bed and breakfasts.

10 posted on 04/29/2014 6:13:33 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The same government that belches about not getting its cut wants to shut down a viable cash cow.

Only in the crazy world of the New York Attorney General’s office is that supposed to make sense.

11 posted on 04/29/2014 6:19:53 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: OrioleFan

They want to shut down their competition and have the government muscle Airbnb out of business for them.

If consumers could save on their hotel and bed and breakfast stays, they’re going to bleed serious cash.

They want it nipped in the bud.

12 posted on 04/29/2014 6:23:17 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

“I’ve never heard of “rent” being subject to local taxes.”

The city wants to scam the homeowners to replace lost hotel taxes.

13 posted on 04/29/2014 8:05:42 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“ stamp out illegal activity...”

Which, these days, is pretty much everything in which the government doesn’t get its cut.

And most of everything else, too.

14 posted on 04/29/2014 10:44:25 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


15 posted on 04/30/2014 3:10:33 AM PDT by Oratam
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