Skip to comments.BBC News - Profile: Ukraine's ultra-nationalist Right Sector
Posted on 04/30/2014 10:57:01 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalistEdited on 04/30/2014 11:51:10 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
The Right Sector is the most radical wing of Ukraine's Maidan protest movement that toppled President Viktor Yanukovych in February.
Originally set up as an alliance of ultra-nationalist groups in November 2013, the Right Sector is now a party and its leader, Dmytro Yarosh, is running for president in the 25 May election - although his poll rating is negligible.
Critics at home say the party's inflammatory rhetoric and violence is helping Russian media to depict Ukraine as overrun with "neo-Nazis" who threaten the Russian-speaking population.
The Right Sector is trying to portray itself as a responsible party, but enough doubts remain about its attitude and intentions to cause unease in both pro-Kiev and pro-Moscow camps.
Activists claiming to be Right Sector members were involved in Kiev's Maidan protests from late November, but the group did not attract much attention until violent clashes with police in central Kiev on 19 January, in which it played a leading role.
By early February Mr Yarosh was saying the Right Sector had 500 fighters on Independence Square and could mobilise up to 5,000 nationwide, although close observers of the protests doubt this.
1.) Salon.com had one, for example. 2.) International Business Times: "Euromaidan: The Dark Shadows of the Far-Right in the Ukraine Protests" 3.) CNN: Opinion: "Rein In Ukraine's Neo-Fascists" 4.) The Daily Beast: "Can Ukraine Control Its Far Right Ultranationalists?"
Some of the MSM outlets that seemed to be acting one way when it came to Libya, for example, acted another way when it came to Ukraine. Obama didn't have the support for Ukraine, it seems, in many reports, that he seemed to have for Libya. Now, the reports are angled at keeping the U.S. out of intervening in Ukraine.
Even American Spectator, that pro-Russian, pro-Putin rag (sarcasm) recently exposed Svoboda.
The past IB Times article - ohhhh those Putinistas! Even the Obama-loving LA Times and NBC News have past articles that rip Svoboda and/or Right Sector. They must be in league with RT!!! /sarcasm.
That would be awesome.
The McCainiacs and Soronistas here will love it!
Straw Man on your part.
Well, that was not long... Spund the retreat feom the red line... we just did not have the exact red line you thought we had....
A Ukrainian ‘ultra nationalist’ is a Ukrainian who doesn’t miss being ruled by Moscow.
Screw the Beeb.
Well, that was not long... Sound the retreat from the red line... we just did not have the exact red line you thought we had....
And don’t forget the IB Times, and American Spectator. Oh, those far-left, Putinista rags! /s
BTW, does that mean that those who lean right and have exposed Svoboda and Right sector are also siding with Vlad? LOL.
So Svoboda and Right Sector don’t miss being ruled by Moscow?
Got any photos of hard-line communists in Moscow? Or “Ukrainians” marching under the hammer & sickle? Oh, wait, our Russian Freepers say it “doesn’t matter.”
Do you as an American miss being ruled by London? If so then I suppose you’re an ultra-nationalist.
You have heard about the Blaze getting ready to report on some so-called Benghazi/McCain story?
Apples to Oranges argument.
I see. So our right to self-determination is okay but a Ukrainian right to self-determination is wrong. So noted.
Did I say that I care for the commies in Ukraine? No.
When the Commies and Nazi’s in Ukraine went at it during a parliamentary meeting, I didn’t care for either side. Both sides stunk and stink to high heaven.
So, why should the U.S. get involved? Huh?
Oh wait, the McCainiac Freepers here say that we must intervene. Need to arm them Syrian “rebels”, and Ukraianians, and saddle-up with them Muslim Bro’Hood’s. Yee Hah! /sarcasm.
Sure could use that pic of Dr. Strangelove McCain riding the missile here!!!
Ah, can’t forget what happened with arming Afghani’s in the 80’s, right? Did that come back to bite us?
Where do you live?
LOL—”please provide me with some personal information, so that I may engage in a personal attack.”
You yourself say “self-”
That means THEY -determine, and WE stay out of it.
And, by that I mean - in Ukraine or the US, or some other country. I don’t care about you actual address.
You sure care about the Nazis. Why not the commies?
I try to avoid The Genetic Fallacy (an argument’ s validity is tempered by the identity of the one professing it http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Item/2302/arguing_well_by_avoiding_the_genetic_fallacy.aspx ).
However,in the case of the BBC disinformatschiks, I’ll pass.
What does my alleged spoon-feeding have to do with the fact that you are too dumb to engage in other personal attacks without help?
LOL, in post #18 bring up Cowboy Bob wanting to engage in personal attacks, and then you yourself turn around and do just that here. Why are you a hypocrite.
Enough ad homs. Shut up with them. They are no allowed here.
It says “no personal attacks at FR.
Please comply. Thank you.
I have said already on this thread that when the Nazis and Commies went at it in the Parliament I couldn’t care mucg for either side. BTW, not much reporting on the commies in Ukraine, but a BUNCH on Svoboda and Right Sector - from the left and the right.
Read #18, and then #21.
He turns around right after posting to you in #18 and pulls that stunt in #21.
Why FR lets him get away with that, I have no idea.
“BBC disinformatschiks” -— attack the messenger. IOW, “To the man.” IOW, Ad Hominem on your part.
I remember when they were reporting about the US backing the Neo-Nazi’s in Ukraine and the US appointing them to the new Government. I was especially surprised Salon had chimed in. ....But that was before our media was told they could NOT use the word Nazi in writing or reporting on Ukraine....this then we saw all sorts of “other” names used to define the otherwise obvious.
Now Ukraine has to deal with the ‘hoards of them’ who have come in from other country’s once the word was sent out to gather there.
Love the fact some of us were onto this right from the get go and tried to inform....only to be continually shot down for doing so. It does pay to investigate rather than simply accept the MSM feeding the sheep.
Anyone who believes media even now needs to be careful because it will soon frame Slovada as being “moderate” as they do with the Islamists.
Be strong, comrade. Mother Russia needs you.
Looks like these boys are back and goosesteping around Kiev:
Whining? Puhleeze. Stop the ad homs/personal attacks.
Saying to me “You sure care about Nazis” is low - even for you.
Why you can’t deal with the article and discuss it, but, instead, try to derail threads with crap like that is beyond me. Either discuss the article or hit the road.
You are not contributing to the thread - at all.
If you want threads about commies in Ukraine, then post them yourself, and quit whining about me not posting them.
But good luck finding them...
Here..time for a lesson in reality:
Take a look at your comment #3, troll.
Only Vladi can save us!
So take a look at comment #3, LOL.
Why is the Russian foreign ministry supporting Neo Nazi Pavel Gubarev? Just yesterday they put a PR demanding his release. Is that SOP in Putin’s Russia?
Russian apologists like to play up the radical presidential candidate with 0.7% support in the polls.
That is like covering US next elections focusing solely on Roseanne Barr.
Yes, I too, was surprised about several sites (both form the left and right) and what they posted in the media reports about Ukraine initially. They tried to warn the Obama adm., but the Obama administration has the anti-Midas touch. The Obama administration seems to have some supporters here at FR, who, by indirection, seem to want Obama to give arms to Ukraine and/or do yet another Lybia thing.
Yes, we have some who lap up the MSM narrative (although some MSM outlets still haven’t accepted being told to shut up). And they are called names for doing so, be they news sources from the left or the right.
When you have both the left and the right still posting stuff about the fascists in Ukraine, and they are taken to task for doing so, you can almost bet that it is coming from GOP Establishment hacks that want interventionism.
Yes, there are still Commies in Ukraine, and they stink to high heaven, too, but they, as you can see from the beat down that some of them took in a parliament meeting in Ukraine, are weak compared to the fascists in Ukraine.
Like I have said, tis’ best that we stay out of this.
Fascism in Ukraine is nothing to get in bed with.
Obama has the anti-Midas touch, and most Americans look back to Libya (Benghazi), Syria, Egypt under the Muslim Brotherhood (Obama Adm.: the Muslim Brotherhood are “largely secular”) fiasco, and want NOTHING to do with Ukraine now.
Even Israel, our closest ally in the Middle East (and I hope its stays that way) voted NO in the UN - and wants to stay out of this - like most Americans...
Who said that, comrade?
Did I post it to an ACTUAL person like you did in #18 and #21?
No I didn’t, troll.
Apples to Oranges...
While Svoboda and Right Sector don’t have much support now, they were quite instrumental in the overthrow of Viktor Yanukovych, as the BBC article says. The MSM (both left and right) reported on this, and how they were dangerous elements.
radical Svoboda has three top positions in the Ukraine gov’t right now, as the BBC article says. Apparently still in the mix of things...
A member of the Other Russia party led by National Bolshevik leader Edward Limonov, Rostislav Zhuravlyov is believed to have negotiated with the SBU attempting to obtain Gubarevs release.
And you have never went on other threads by other posters here and did what I did in post #3?
But...you do that AND what you did in post #18 and #21, too.
No one forced you to come on this thread and post after you read post #3...but you did anyway. Guilty conscience and angry after reading post #3? LOL.
What do they remind you of?