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GOP senators: Arm Ukraine, hit Russian banks
news.yahoo.com ^ | Olivier Knox

Posted on 04/30/2014 2:10:56 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Saying President Barack Obama hasn’t been tough enough on Russia, a high-powered group of Republican senators introduced legislation on Wednesday aimed at imposing new sanctions on Moscow over its actions in Ukraine.

“Rather than react to events as they unfold, which has been the policy of this administration, we need to inflict more direct consequences on Russia prior to Vladimir Putin taking additional steps that will be very difficult to undo,” said Bob Corker of Tennessee, the top GOP member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who drafted the measure.

The congressional push for a harder line on Russia comes with Obama set to welcome German Chancellor Angela Merkel, one of his key partners on Ukraine, to the White House on Friday.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; gop; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; russianoccupation; ukraine
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1 posted on 04/30/2014 2:10:56 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Useless gesture.


2 posted on 04/30/2014 2:11:33 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Why are Republicans banging the drums?

Let Obama own it - tell everyone we are waiting for HIS proposed solutions.


3 posted on 04/30/2014 2:14:27 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

The world behaves like a welfare state because we treat them like it. Maybe its time for a reminder of what the world was like without us.


4 posted on 04/30/2014 2:18:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Senators,
Can you name the two young men that were killed yesterday in Afghanistan? No? Then tread carefully before you get America committed to losing more of its young men an women.


5 posted on 04/30/2014 2:19:24 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American - Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
a high-powered group of Republican senators

First off, there is no such thing. Its an oxymoron if there ever was one.

And second, even if there was, it would be the best of the worst.

6 posted on 04/30/2014 2:21:13 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: cripplecreek
Yes. And most Americans think we should.

Americans Want to Pull Back From World Stage, Poll Finds


7 posted on 04/30/2014 2:22:24 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: PGR88

Why are Republicans banging the drums?

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Because they are the Stupid Party. But you’re absolutely right. They should stay out of it; let Obama own this fiasco. He favored the “reset”; just sit back and watch him try to extricate himself from the quicksand he’s in now.


8 posted on 04/30/2014 2:25:37 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Theoria

Current level plus “more active” equals 49. Less active equals 47, and 3 percent are goobers with no opinion.


9 posted on 04/30/2014 2:26:01 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Theoria

I personally think we should concern ourselves more with our own hemisphere.


10 posted on 04/30/2014 2:27:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Theoria
Yes. And most Americans think we should.

Less than, but close to a majority.

11 posted on 04/30/2014 2:27:54 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

take your age. Now subtract your age. That’s how many ****s I give about the Ukraine.


12 posted on 04/30/2014 2:29:58 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Timber Rattler

We should be doing something, had we acted in 1939 history would have been much different. However, with this “commander in chief” if we do act it will be to help the wrong side.


13 posted on 04/30/2014 2:32:15 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: logic101.net

Russia is not Iraq and will not be conquered in 27 days!


14 posted on 04/30/2014 2:34:11 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I've about had it with the fight everyone for everything crowd in the GOP and Dims too.

We need to rest and rebuild.

Much of our equipment is worn out and needs replacement/repair and many of our men are tired.

Ukraine is nowhere near the top 10 security interests of the USA.

15 posted on 04/30/2014 2:36:44 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Bob Corker used to be considered conservative, but recently he seems to have turned into a RINO jerk.


16 posted on 04/30/2014 2:37:36 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

What? I’m talking about Real Americans.
kinda joke..


17 posted on 04/30/2014 2:43:29 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed.


18 posted on 04/30/2014 2:45:32 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: logic101.net
We should be doing something, had we acted in 1939 history would have been much different

Careful there. In 1914 World War I started because the Great Powers just had to do something. That war would have been avoided if the Great Powers would have just kept out the Austrian-Serbian crisis.

So is the current Russian-Ukrainian situation more like 1939 (action needed) or more like 1914 (stay out of it)? I vote for 1914.

19 posted on 04/30/2014 2:58:14 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: PGR88; SECURE AMERICA
Why are Republicans banging the drums?

Because they're the adults in the room. Somebody has to stand up to Putitler.

But note, they're not talking about sending in Amercian troops, but rather helping Ukraine to become stronger and better able to defend themselves against Russian thuggery.

What conservative has a problem with that?


20 posted on 04/30/2014 3:00:00 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Berlin_Freeper; All

The Russian Aggression Prevention Act of 2014 is cosponsored by Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), Lamar Alexander (R-Tn.), John Hoeven (R-N.D.), Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), Marco Rubio (R-Fl.), John McCain (R-Az.), John Cornyn (R-Texas), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Mark Kirk (R-Il.), John Barrasso (R-Wy.), Jim Risch (R-Id.), Dan Coats (R-In.), Pat Roberts (R-Ks.), Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.), Jim Inhofe (R-Ok.), Rob Portman (R-Oh.), Orrin Hatch (R-Ut.), John Thune (R-.S.D.) and Jeff Flake (R-Az.).


21 posted on 04/30/2014 3:00:22 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The Ukraine/Russia conflict is being used as a diversion by those in DC and the wussy Repubicans are playing it like they have forgotten that we common Americans know our real and worst enemy is in the WH.


22 posted on 04/30/2014 3:09:42 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: cripplecreek

EXACTLY my thinking.


23 posted on 04/30/2014 3:09:46 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: canuck_conservative
Because they're the adults in the room. Somebody has to stand up to Putitler. But note, they're not talking about sending in Amercian troops, but rather helping Ukraine to become stronger and better able to defend themselves against Russian thuggery. What conservative has a problem with that?

Apparently some here like Obama's position of not sending arms to Ukraine.

Reagan's legacy squandered.

24 posted on 04/30/2014 3:17:06 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: logic101.net

Doing what?

See, “we should be doing something” leads senators and pinheads in the State Dep’t to do some really stupid things. When citizens call them out and say “you’re doing something stupid!” they reply

“Well, you said ‘we should do something!’ and this is ‘something’, so we’re doing it.”

We should be doing nothing at this point, because it is:

a) quite obvious we don’t fully know or understand what is going on,
b) even more obvious we don’t have people in the executive branch right now who understand Putin
c) and it is even more obvious that we have no logistics in place to deal with the Russian threat of shutting off energy exports to western Europe.

In short, we have no good options to “do something.” What is being proposed now is just chum for the western press, and won’t result in anything other than annoying Ivan. It isn’t going to stop anything from happening.

Doing something futile and pointless is the action of the impotent. Doing nothing and maintaining an air of uncertainty over what we’d do is the stronger position.


25 posted on 04/30/2014 3:17:16 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: canuck_conservative
This is a European problem, not an American one!

You can bet that American 'advisers' will be in the Ukraine!

26 posted on 04/30/2014 3:22:02 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: FreeReign

The fact is that America has it’s limits, we don’t have any influence on what occurs in the Ukraine.


27 posted on 04/30/2014 3:24:01 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: NVDave
quite obvious we don’t fully know or understand what is going on

If it's going on we know that it's about Western banking interests and their political stooges trying to maintain control so that they can continue stealing what isn't nailed down. The Chinese and Russians are getting uppity about continuing to accept our bad paper. Having said that, the Chinese and Russian leaders are scum too. Can't think of an American kid I know that I want to die so that the financial interests can continue to sell bets on the quality of Chicago paper or Greek paper or whatever byzantine scam they're trying to pull off.

28 posted on 04/30/2014 3:31:22 PM PDT by Stentor (Maybe the Goldman Sachs thing is just a coincidence. /S)
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To: logic101.net

The only thing we should be doing is watching water seek it’s own level and accepting where it settles.


29 posted on 04/30/2014 3:48:28 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: All

Reagan would be rolling over in his grave, if he could read this website’s post.

Bowing down to a pathetic rogue and weakened Russia.

If you truly believe that allowing Russia to steam roll weaker nations is in the interests of the United States, you are willfully ignorant on the subject.

It is absolutely in our interest to counter Russia. And the incessant moaning about “sending our troops”, when all the Republicans want to do is produce more serious economic sanctions...is a weak straw man argument from people who are either not conservative or are Russian sympathizing Useful Idiots.


30 posted on 04/30/2014 4:01:36 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: rbmillerjr

If you believe we should go to WW3 over an issue started or at least massively inflamed by Obama’s State Dept running an Occupy Ukraine scam, you need your head examined.


31 posted on 04/30/2014 4:09:46 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Starboard

But if Obama owns it, that will make him look bad. Since Obama is their king, and they like having him as a king, they wouldn’t want him to look bad.


32 posted on 04/30/2014 4:12:06 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Apparently you didn’t read the article or my post in full.

It’s about tougher economic sanctions, not war.

I’ll tell you what, you take a reading comprehension class and I’ll have my head examined.


33 posted on 04/30/2014 4:14:17 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
These GOP senators want to ride the Dr. Stragemccain rocket.

Forget arming Ukraine, they may want to bomb Russia.

Arm Ukrainians. McCain has said this like he wanted to arm Syrian “rebels.” Yeah, THOSE Syrian rebels.

McCainiacs, Soronistas, Obamanistas, unending-interventionists unite!

34 posted on 04/30/2014 4:15:13 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: PGR88

These that are baning the drum want to ride the DR. StrangeMccain rocket.

Must intervene militarily by whatever means...


35 posted on 04/30/2014 4:17:19 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: rbmillerjr

Where exactly do you suppose economic sanctions and arming the Ukrainans leads to exactly? Cleveland?

Ever crack a history book?


36 posted on 04/30/2014 4:19:43 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: RC one
Yep.

We need to stay out of this.

Obama has the anti-Midas touch.

LIbya (Benghazi). Egypt's new gov’t under the Muslim Bro’Hood will be good they said. They are “largely secular.” 2 years later Kerry says that their ouster is the return of Democracy to Egypt. Most in Egypt say what happened to them, and now Egypt is closer to Russia now. Before it was the U.S.

Obama wanted to arm Syrian “rebels” (the good kind, ya know) two years too late.

Now Ukraine.

Trust the anti-Midas touch? Don't think so...

37 posted on 04/30/2014 4:21:40 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Norm Lenhart

It boggles my mind how many on FR think that arming Neo Nazis against Russia is a good idea.


38 posted on 04/30/2014 4:21:56 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Cicero

He is now a McCainiac and does Obama’s bidding...


39 posted on 04/30/2014 4:22:30 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Can some of Corker’s constituents disabuse him of this idea?


40 posted on 04/30/2014 4:22:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
McCainiacs, Soronistas, Obamanistas, unending-interventionists unite!

Obama doesn't want to arm Ukraine. You and Obama are united.

41 posted on 04/30/2014 4:23:22 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Mariner

Exactly.

And we have our own enemy combatant in Mordor on the Potomac that is and has been infinitely more dangerous to the US than what anyone does in Ukraine, either side there.


42 posted on 04/30/2014 4:24:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Two possibilities. No knowledge of history. No ability to use logic.

Nothing else makes sense unless you go straight to Obama supporting nutcase.


43 posted on 04/30/2014 4:25:08 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

ROTFLOL.

Well said.

But mind boggling how many are here on FR. Just this morning I was accused to being a Putin lover just because I pointed out that yes indeed, the Pravi Sektor and Svoboda are neo Nazis.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3150471/posts?page=71#71

The usual actors on that thread.


44 posted on 04/30/2014 4:28:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Two possibilities. No knowledge of history. No ability to use logic.

The feeling is mutual buddy boy.

45 posted on 04/30/2014 4:33:21 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

When you can post a logical reason we should back WW3, get back to me cupcake.


46 posted on 04/30/2014 4:35:42 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: little jeremiah
It boggles my mind how many on FR think that arming Neo Nazis against Russia is a good idea.

Most Ukrainians despise Nazi. If you know anything about history you would know that. Yet you think that when you arm Ukraine you arm Nazis.

That's mind boggling.

47 posted on 04/30/2014 4:37:05 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: logic101.net
We should be doing something, had we acted in 1939 history would have been much different.

Do what exactly? Attack Russia?

48 posted on 04/30/2014 4:38:20 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: cripplecreek
I personally think we should concern ourselves more with our own hemisphere.

Amen to THAT!

49 posted on 04/30/2014 4:39:13 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: little jeremiah

I recently had a 2 day battle with one who was so sure of his position that I invited him to turn men in to DHS as an enemy agent or at least to JR as a liberal.

SO SURE was he that....nothing.

Lots of hyperpatriotic hot air from lots of people that can’t think 2 inches ahead of what happens when you stand impotently punching a pit bull.

Anyone here want to go to war with Putin with Obama and a purged military?

Raise your hands, get on a plane to Basic training and do it yourself or shut the hell up.


50 posted on 04/30/2014 4:40:12 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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