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Cold case: Did archaeologists find the last Maccabean king, after all?
Haaretz ^ | April 29, 2014 | Ariel David

Posted on 04/30/2014 11:14:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In 1970, a rock-cut tomb was discovered by workers building a private house in Jerusalem's Givat Hamivtar neighborhood. Inside the two-chambered burial, dating back to the first century BCE, archeologists found a decorated ossuary – a limestone box containing the bones of the deceased – and an enigmatic Aramaic inscription affixed to the wall.

"I am Abba, son of Eleazar the priest," proclaimed the 2,000-year-old text. "I am Abba, the oppressed, the persecuted, born in Jerusalem and exiled to Babylon, who brought back Mattathiah son of Judah and buried him in the cave that I purchased."

Who was Abba, this unfortunate priest from Jerusalem? And who was the Mattathiah whose remains were apparently buried in the cave?

These questions have been fiercely debated by scholars for the past 40 years. Now. new research indicates that the initial interpretation of the find, that has long been dismissed, may have been right all along. This view identifies the Abba cave as the final resting place of a key figure in Jewish history: Mattathiah Antigonus II, the last king of the Hasmonean dynasty, whose reign was followed by Roman conquest, the destruction of the Second Temple and two millennia of exile...

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel
KEYWORDS: abba; aramaic; archaeology; bible; eleazar; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; hasmoneans; history; israel; judaism; letshavejerusalem; maccabeans; mattathiah; tombofthemaccabees

1 posted on 04/30/2014 11:14:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Abba=Son of the father


2 posted on 04/30/2014 11:35:46 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.

3 posted on 04/30/2014 11:37:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This view identifies the Abba cave as the final resting place of a key figure in Jewish history: Mattathiah Antigonus II, the last king of the Hasmonean dynasty, whose reign was followed by Roman conquest, the destruction of the Second Temple and two millennia of exile...

Well so much for the Palestinian’s mantra that the Jews never lived in Israel before the British brought them there following WW II.

4 posted on 04/30/2014 11:44:35 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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5 posted on 05/01/2014 12:15:59 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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6 posted on 05/01/2014 4:48:36 AM PDT by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we donÂ’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting....


7 posted on 05/01/2014 4:54:09 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
dating back to the first century BCE

I love it when the academic-types try to remove Christ from the collective conscience by using the designation Before the Common Era (BCE), instead of Before Christ (BC). So, just when did this so-called "Common Era" begin? Oh, I see. At the time of Christ, was it? BCE is a metaphor for the Devil who tries to deceive the world by demonstrating that Jesus Christ doesn't exist; but Christ prevails - He is still there and can not be vanquished.

8 posted on 05/01/2014 5:50:13 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: onedoug

Abba = father. Jesus referred to His Father as Abba in His prayer to Him. Jewish children call their fathers Abba.


9 posted on 05/01/2014 8:45:36 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: onedoug

Thanks, I thought it was part of the Swedish singing group.


10 posted on 05/01/2014 10:04:23 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: onedoug
Abba=Son of the father

No. In Aramaic, "Abba" literally means "father" (it's the cognate of the Hebrew av). It was also used as a man's first name in Second Temple times. "Son" would be bar. The name "Barabas" which appears in the Christian Scriptures means "son of Abba."

11 posted on 05/01/2014 10:16:51 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: FrdmLvr
I love it when the academic-types try to remove Christ from the collective conscience by using the designation Before the Common Era (BCE), instead of Before Christ (BC). So, just when did this so-called "Common Era" begin? Oh, I see. At the time of Christ, was it? BCE is a metaphor for the Devil who tries to deceive the world by demonstrating that Jesus Christ doesn't exist; but Christ prevails - He is still there and can not be vanquished.

"BCE" and "CE" were first used by British Jews in the 19th Century so that they could use the same dates as everyone else without making any statement that would contradict their faith. It is now used by most Jews around the world, and is used by archaeologists, especially when writing about the Middle East, where not offending Jewish or Moslem governments is prerequisite to getting permission to dig.

12 posted on 05/01/2014 10:21:33 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

By Abba, you’re right. I got ahead of...uh, behind myself. My fault. Thank you for setting me straight.


13 posted on 05/01/2014 10:22:01 AM PDT by onedoug
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Here is a pretty comprehensive blog about the “Abba tomb” and the possibility it holds the remains of a Jewish King of the Hasemonean line.

Apparently, like all discoveries in Israel, there is a lot of controversy among archeologists and this gives all sides.

http://jamestabor.com/2014/04/29/the-abba-cave-crucifixion-nails-and-the-last-hasmonean-king/


14 posted on 05/03/2014 10:32:10 AM PDT by wildbill
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